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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Another Shutout Loss, Luongo Fallout, More Deals Today?
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Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
Yeah, but that hasn't stopped some MTL fans from making outlandish claims about his talent/value.

Most were claiming he's a better prospect than Horvat and Shinkaruk earlier in the year...

- Fosco

You could insert any team and prospect in there in fairness.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
3rd and Eaves(who was on waivers at one point) for Legwand....wtf.


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
I was saying this yesterday but the concept wasnt excepted by anyone... but you. Big surprise.

- boonerbuck


Look at the market and compare these prices to year's past...night and day.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
With the low returns the other top TDL targets garnered, I can't believe some on here are surprised the cost for Kesler wasn't matched

Market dictates the price, and it was a buyer's market--pretty much every selling GM failed in their negotiations...
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:43 PM ET
Is it me or is Gillis giving his press conference from the green on a golf course.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:43 PM ET
No matter what the story is there is no reason for Gillis to play the role of GM. If FA dont trust him....fire him. And if Gillis is not in control, he should decide move on.
- boonerbuck


No matter what FA did, it's Gillis's fault. Sound like FA's plan from the beginning, a "Yes Man" and "Fall Guy" all in 1.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:43 PM ET
You could insert any team and prospect in there in fairness.
- Yeti1181


So every team is claiming their prospects are better than Horvat ?

I think that's grounds for a banning.

Seriously, though, especially in a poor developmental season, claiming Collberg is better than Horvat is just ludicrous...
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
Look at the market and compare these prices to year's past...night and day.
- Nucker101


The one year the Canucks are looking to sell the market takes a crap.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
And if Kesler wasn't locked up for anther 2 years that would be the case. As he is then the draft offers a better opportunity because you get more teams involved and they have more cap flexibility to deal with. At the draft a team acquiring him can build around that move for the upcoming season (and beyond) while at the TDL they have to cram him into their already pre-existing plan (and cap structure).
- KB3Point0


Remember Kesler is the one providing the very short list of where he'll accept a trade to. Im not so sure that list is going to grow for some reason between now and June. also, Kesler will lose 1/3 of his playoff opportunities from a suiters point of view.

The cap will be easier to work with this summer. That is probably the biggest advantage for waiting. More teams... I doubt it.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:45 PM ET
So every team is claiming their prospects are better than Horvat ?

I think that's grounds for a banning.

Seriously, though, especially in a poor developmental season, claiming Collberg is better than Horvat is just ludicrous...

- Fosco

I didn't want to be the one to tell you
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:45 PM ET
Is it me or is Gillis giving his press conference from the green on a golf course.
- DrChristianTroy

Probably where I'd be too looking at this market.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:45 PM ET
Kesler trade in 22 months
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:46 PM ET
Probably where I'd be too looking at this market.
- Nucker101


He better let the next group play through...
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
Well, at least this gives everybody more to female dog and moan about...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
Kesler trade in 22 months
- pker2theend


Isles basically traded Moulson and a 1st for Collberg
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
Probably where I'd be too looking at this market.
- Nucker101


It's quite fitting really - trying to set the expectations for the fans.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
Well, at least this gives everybody more to female dog and moan about...
- Fosco

"the process"

Edit: Paul Allen please save us.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Well, at least this gives everybody more to female dog and moan about...
- Fosco


I don't blame him today at all.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Anyone feel good that our upcoming (depending on the return (if he's even traded in the summer) of Kesler) forward lineup in a few years will be

Shinkaruk-Horvat-Jensen
Higgins-Santorelli (if he resigns)-Kassian
?-Mattias-Hansen
Sessito-Lain-Archibald



EDIT: I left off the Sedins and Burrows deliberately.
trevorcanuck
Location: BC
Joined: 01.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Post trade deadline good gillis didnt give away kesler now gillis fires torts FA fires gillis
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
Canuckland is gonna get a lot uglier before it gets better. Between now and the draft it's gonna be a poopshow around here. Even worse if Kelser doesn't get dealt at the draft.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
Anyone feel good that our upcoming (depending on the return (if he's even traded in the summer) of Kesler) forward lineup in a few years will be

Shinkaruk-Horvat-Jensen
Higgins-Santorelli (if he resigns)-Kassian
?-Mattias-Hansen
Sessito-Lain-Archibald


- DariusKnight


So, the Canucks don't make any other moves at the forward position after the twins retire?

Back of the ledge my friend.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
Well, at least this gives everybody more to female dog and moan about...
- Fosco

Is gillis on the golf course?
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Mar 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
Post trade deadline good gillis didnt give away kesler now gillis fires torts FA fires gillis
- trevorcanuck

Then FA rehires Torts.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
Halak for a (frank)ing 6th
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