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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
Is gillis on the golf course?
- Yeti1181


What a boss, eh?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
Is gillis on the golf course?
- Yeti1181


Is that foreshadowing or...?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
At least Canuck fan anger is now aiming where it should have been the whole time: Harold Ballard. .. I mean, Aquilini. He's responsible for the clown front office and clown coaching. I wonder how much the net worth of the Canucks has tumbled over the last few months. It will be interesting to see the new Forbes numbers next year.
- bazz


It is true that all decisions land on him ultimately. Its his GM hiring that he can let go at any time. If he feels he has to make the moves over MG's head, its FA's own doing. own it and move on. Find a competent GM.

On the other hand... if people believe MG is a puppet GM,,,, start giving all that past credit MG has gotten to a owner who did well with our past success. Cant have it both ways can we?
trevorcanuck
Location: BC
Joined: 01.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
Then FA rehires Torts.
- Linden_4_Capt

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:54 PM ET
Halak for a (frank)ing 6th
- Nucker101

A 1/6th of what?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Halak for a (frank)ing 6th
- Nucker101




Wow. That's shockingly low.

Bumps up Enroth's value in the pool

Any interest?

I'll give you a bargain price just to get you back in the trading mood.

EDIT: I see Nuevirth is included in the deal.

Damn. Competition
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
It is true that all decisions land on him ultimately. Its his GM hiring that he can let go at any time. If he feels he has to make the moves over MG's head, its FA's own doing. own it and move on. Find a competent GM.

On the other hand... if people believe MG is a puppet GM,,,, start giving all that past credit MG has gotten to a owner who did well with our past success. Cant have it both ways can we?

- boonerbuck

docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Is it me or is Gillis giving his press conference from the green on a golf course.
- DrChristianTroy

I think he got fired already.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:56 PM ET
No matter what the story is there is no reason for Gillis to play the role of GM. If FA dont trust him....fire him. And if Gillis is not in control, he should decide move on.
- boonerbuck

hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:58 PM ET
Hopefully Canucks string together a lengthy losing streak to close out the season and land a top 5 pick. Trade Kesler for some young talent, try ditch Booth and Burrows and then Mctank for Mcdavid next season. I'll be so pissed off if Canucks win another game this year.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 5 @ 4:00 PM ET
David Ebner ‏@DavidEbner 40s
Penguins offers for Kesler were parts of a player-prospects-pick but never the whole trifecta. Canucks decide to wait.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Mar 5 @ 4:01 PM ET
I think he got fired already.
- docmorgan

Snow trades Moulson + 1st (top 5) and 2nd for Vanek then trades Vanek for Collberg and conditional 2nd and we are harping on Gillis. Not trying to defend Gillis but we could be in a lot worse shape if we had Snow as GM. Just saying.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:01 PM ET
Remember Kesler is the one providing the very short list of where he'll accept a trade to. Im not so sure that list is going to grow for some reason between now and June. also, Kesler will lose 1/3 of his playoff opportunities from a suiters point of view.

The cap will be easier to work with this summer. That is probably the biggest advantage for waiting. More teams... I doubt it.

- boonerbuck


More teams who have the flexibility and cap space to make it happen. By waiting they allow more teams to bid more.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m
Oy vey RT @DetroitRedWings Per GM Ken Holland, the #RedWings are shutting down Pavel Datsyuk for about 3 weeks

Sucks to be Detroit. Kiss the streak goodbye.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
What a boss, eh?
- Nucker101

Where I do my best work.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 4:03 PM ET

No matter what FA did, it's Gillis's fault. Sound like FA's plan from the beginning, a "Yes Man" and "Fall Guy" all in 1.

- A_SteamingLombardi


Maybe,,,, but I doubt that FA has been as sinister in his meddling and as long as some think. I think he started to get too involved recently with the Schndeider trade and showing up with hat in hand at Luongo's house followed up by leaning on Gillis to pick Torts(it was rumored Eakins was Gillis' man). Its not a stretch to suggest that those are clear signs of FA letting Gillis exhaust his decisions on the GT handling while also sticking with AV past his due date further damaging this team.

Right now, the Canucks got rid of one player who wants off the team and have to deal with another. Both guys considered the core leaders.... all the while eyebags say this stuff is not a distraction. Three seasons now we are dealing with core leaders who want off the team. Three seasons of decline and embarrassment. No distraction, not at all.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
Snow trades Moulson + 1st (top 5) and 2nd for Vanek then trades Vanek for Collberg and conditional 2nd and we are harping on Gillis. Not trying to defend Gillis but we could be in a lot worse shape if we had Snow as GM. Just saying.
- Linden_4_Capt


rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Mar 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
Hopefully Canucks string together a lengthy losing streak to close out the season and land a top 5 pick. Trade Kesler for some young talent, try ditch Booth and Burrows and then Mctank for Mcdavid next season. I'll be so pissed off if Canucks win another game this year.
- hankthetank


Meh... No way Bettman would let Van win the lottery.....
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
I think he got fired already.
- docmorgan



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:06 PM ET
Hopefully Canucks string together a lengthy losing streak to close out the season and land a top 5 pick. Trade Kesler for some young talent, try ditch Booth and Burrows and then Mctank for Mcdavid next season. I'll be so pissed off if Canucks win another game this year.
- hankthetank

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 4:09 PM ET
Hopefully Canucks string together a lengthy losing streak to close out the season and land a top 5 pick. Trade Kesler for some young talent, try ditch Booth and Burrows and then Mctank for Mcdavid next season. I'll be so pissed off if Canucks win another game this year.
- hankthetank


They think they can still make the playoffs....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:10 PM ET
Maybe,,,, but I doubt that FA has been as sinister in his meddling and as long as some think. I think he started to get too involved recently with the Schndeider trade and showing up with hat in hand at Luongo's house followed up by leaning on Gillis to pick Torts(it was rumored Eakins was Gillis' man). Its not a stretch to suggest that those are clear signs of FA letting Gillis exhaust his decisions on the GT handling while also sticking with AV past his due date further damaging this team.

Right now, the Canucks got rid of one player who wants off the team and have to deal with another. Both guys considered the core leaders.... all the while eyebags say this stuff is not a distraction. Three seasons now we are dealing with core leaders who want off the team. Three seasons of decline and embarrassment. No distraction, not at all.

- boonerbuck

You think it's Gillis's fault and I think it's FA's fault.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Mar 5 @ 4:10 PM ET
I am really happy with this TDL. We get rid of a bad contract in the current CBA and a side show and trade 1 dmen for a pick. For anyone that does not know it means we will not have to carry 8 dmen every game. That means guys like Jensen, Gaunce, Grennier (SP) will now get a chance to play on the big club as showcase to see exactly where they are in development and skill set and then use the off season to trade assets and sign FA to fill those holes. And to top it off we got a 5th rnd pick for an extra D and saved over 2mil in cap space. This is a win.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 5 @ 4:12 PM ET
It is true that all decisions land on him ultimately. Its his GM hiring that he can let go at any time. If he feels he has to make the moves over MG's head, its FA's own doing. own it and move on. Find a competent GM.

On the other hand... if people believe MG is a puppet GM,,,, start giving all that past credit MG has gotten to a owner who did well with our past success. Cant have it both ways can we?

- boonerbuck


Not sure what to credit either of them for. The best Canuck seasons came from the Burke-Nonis and, I believe, the McCaw shtshow core. Other than some tinkering -- yes, Erhoff was a good pickup -- this gang had ridden the coattails of past regimes.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 5 @ 4:12 PM ET
More teams who have the flexibility and cap space to make it happen. By waiting they allow more teams to bid more.
- KB3Point0



Worked with Lu. Drive the price up to the Mathias/Markstrom level
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