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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 9:49 PM ET
Janne Niinimaa.

EDIT: It's funny, but when Russ Farwell was GM, they did quite well with 2nd rounders: Chris Simon, Mikeal Renberg, Greg Johnson & Niinimaa all played 500+ NHL games

- Jsaquella


Damn...Niinimaa's a LOOOONG time ago now. Wow.

We really need to start doing better with that poop.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:50 PM ET
Damn...Niinimaa's a LOOOONG time ago now. Wow.

We really need to start doing better with that poop.

- AllInForFlyers


Need some luck is what they need.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 6 @ 9:52 PM ET
I would just be super wary of guys who bullied/bulled their way through junior... they rarely pan out.
- Tomahawk


His junior numbers aren't too different than Simmonds and Hartnell's. I just haven't seen any semblance of skill from him. If I were the Caps, I'd rather have him playing on a top line in Juniors than a 4th line in the NHL.
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
Jhonas Enroth certainly got his goalie swag back.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
Looks pretty good. Probably goes unnoticed a bit on that team. They're very strong down the middle with Samuelson and Lazar. Not many teams have two centers who are first round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy


His twitter is @KetchupWithMayo
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
His twitter is @KetchupWithMayo
- ob18


Haha. Thats great. Now I hope they draft him.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
Need some luck is what they need.
- MJL


Just a little luck would be nice -- if Stolarz and Hagg both make it, I'd be pretty damn happy, to be honest
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
Damn...Niinimaa's a LOOOONG time ago now. Wow.

We really need to start doing better with that poop.

- AllInForFlyers


Too be fair, here's their second round picks for the last twenty years:

1994: No pick
1995: Shane Kenney
1996: no pick
1997: Jean-Marc Pelletier, Pat Kavanaugh
1998: Jason Beckett, Ian Forbes
1999-2005: no picks
2006: Andreas Nodl, Mike Ratchuk, Denis Bodrov
2007: Kevin Marshall
2008-11: no pick
2012: Anthony Stolarz
2013 Robert Hagg

Over a twenty year span, they've picked in the second round 11 times. Kind of hard to mine a gem when you don;t even go in the cave
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
Haha. Thats great. Now I hope they draft him.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yes, his play is secondary
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
His twitter is @KetchupWithMayo
- ob18


You just sold me on the kid
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
Jhonas Enroth certainly got his goalie swag back.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


Yeah -- I'm watching it, still; he's stoning the Lightning.

Ha! Hodgson just scored on a two-on-one; now it's 3-0 Sabres
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
Too be fair, here's their second round picks for the last twenty years:

1994: No pick
1995: Shane Kenney
1996: no pick
1997: Jean-Marc Pelletier, Pat Kavanaugh
1998: Jason Beckett, Ian Forbes
1999-2005: no picks
2006: Andreas Nodl, Mike Ratchuk, Denis Bodrov
2007: Kevin Marshall
2008-11: no pick
2012: Anthony Stolarz
2013 Robert Hagg

Over a twenty year span, they've picked in the second round 11 times. Kind of hard to mine a gem when you don;t even go in the cave

- Jsaquella



BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
Just a little luck would be nice -- if Stolarz and Hagg both make it, I'd be pretty damn happy, to be honest
- AllInForFlyers


From what I've seen, I'm fairly excited about the player Hagg could become. Could end up being an unbelievable steal, at 41st overall.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
You just sold me on the kid
- Jsaquella


That didn't take much
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 9:59 PM ET
Too be fair, here's their second round picks for the last twenty years:

1994: No pick
1995: Shane Kenney
1996: no pick
1997: Jean-Marc Pelletier, Pat Kavanaugh
1998: Jason Beckett, Ian Forbes
1999-2005: no picks
2006: Andreas Nodl, Mike Ratchuk, Denis Bodrov
2007: Kevin Marshall
2008-11: no pick
2012: Anthony Stolarz
2013 Robert Hagg

Over a twenty year span, they've picked in the second round 11 times. Kind of hard to mine a gem when you don;t even go in the cave

- Jsaquella

Still not as crazy as what I posted earlier about the Art Ross imo
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 6 @ 9:59 PM ET
Just imagine, if conditions are met in the Mez deal, the Flyers will have not one, but TWO 2nd rounders this year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 10:00 PM ET
That didn't take much
- ob18


I usually agree with you on prospects.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 10:01 PM ET
Still not as crazy as what I posted earlier about the Art Ross imo
- Giroux_Is_God

You could add about 4 years to that timeline and it'd be Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr and Marcel Dionne
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 6 @ 10:01 PM ET
Yes, his play is secondary
- ob18


Exactly!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:01 PM ET
I usually agree with you on prospects.
- Jsaquella


I need to be in the draft meetings, they need some direction.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 6 @ 10:01 PM ET
Yeah -- I'm watching it, still; he's stoning the Lightning.

Ha! Hodgson just scored on a two-on-one; now it's 3-0 Sabres

- AllInForFlyers


Callahan is playing, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
Too be fair, here's their second round picks for the last twenty years:

1994: No pick
1995: Shane Kenney
1996: no pick
1997: Jean-Marc Pelletier, Pat Kavanaugh
1998: Jason Beckett, Ian Forbes
1999-2005: no picks
2006: Andreas Nodl, Mike Ratchuk, Denis Bodrov
2007: Kevin Marshall
2008-11: no pick
2012: Anthony Stolarz
2013 Robert Hagg

Over a twenty year span, they've picked in the second round 11 times. Kind of hard to mine a gem when you don;t even go in the cave

- Jsaquella


They do have a couple of players chosen in the 2nd round in 2010 in Alt and Straka.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
WHOOF -- Dallas just went end-to-end on what started as a 3-on-2 that wound up a 2-on-1, and scored to make it 5-0 over Fonzie's crew.

Quote from the commentator: "It's unfathomable how far this team has fallen." (The Canucks have lost 10 of 11.)

WOW.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
Just imagine, if conditions are met in the Mez deal, the Flyers will have not one, but TWO 2nd rounders this year.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


What are the conditions?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 6 @ 10:03 PM ET
Good night so far for the Flyers...Montreal losing, CBJ getting blown out, Washington lost
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