Something along those lines for sure. Since the numbers are based on shots, something is happening. But I just think that possession is important no doubt, but not all that it is made out to be.
- MJL

For Vancouver, it's b/c they only cash in on 7.3% of their shots... that's way below average.

Ottawa has poor shooting plus poor goaltending.

Devils literally haven't eked out an OT or SO win all season.

For Vancouver, it's b/c they only cash in on 7.3% of their shots... that's way below average.

Ottawa has poor shooting plus poor goaltending.

Devils literally haven't eked out an OT or SO win all season.
- Tomahawk

Only furthers the point that there is a whole lot more to the game then possession.

Only furthers the point that there is a whole lot more to the game then possession.
- MJL

There are a few outliers, but mostly if you go over the team rankings for Fenwick-close, it pretty much runs in reverse order of who you'd most like to meet in a playoff matchup:

http://www.extraskater.co...t&sit=5v5close&type=total

theyll possess it, but they dont really do anything with it. and then when they do surrender possession, quality chances against ensue.
- stayinthefnnet

Dallas is really fun to watch though. They go up and down the ice so fast. Their fans look like they're watching a tennis match with the way their heads go back and forth.

For Vancouver, it's b/c they only cash in on 7.3% of their shots... that's way below average.

Ottawa has poor shooting plus poor goaltending.

Devils literally haven't eked out an OT or SO win all season.
- Tomahawk

Flawed scoring system in the NHL. A team like Wash shouldn't have even been a buyer at the TDL.

There are a few outliers, but mostly if you go over the team rankings for Fenwick-close, it pretty much runs in reverse order of who you'd most like to meet in a playoff matchup:

http://www.extraskater.co...t&sit=5v5close&type=total
- Tomahawk

I wouldn't place nearly that much weight on advanced stats when looking at who I'd most want to meet in the playoffs. Throw it out the window. Any team can be dangerous and have a hot streak, or have a Goalie stand on his head in a 7 game series. And every team that makes the playoffs is a threat.

I wouldn't place nearly that much weight on advanced stats when looking at who I'd most want to meet in the playoffs. Throw it out the window. Any team can be dangerous and have a hot streak, or have a Goalie stand on his head in a 7 game series. And every team that makes the playoffs is a threat.
- MJL

Nobody's saying otherwise, however I'd still much rather face the Leafs than the Bruins, all things being equal.

Flawed scoring system in the NHL. A team like Wash shouldn't have even been a buyer at the TDL.
- PhillySportsGuy

It's such a simple fix, too. Just go pure W-L... no single points, it's either 2 or nothing.

Flawed scoring system in the NHL. A team like Wash shouldn't have even been a buyer at the TDL.
- PhillySportsGuy

Just look at ROW. Flyers are in the top 10 ranked 10th in ROW. Washington is 25th out of 30 teams in ROW. And they're only 4 points back in the Division, from the Flyers.

Nobody's saying otherwise, however I'd still much rather face the Leafs than the Bruins, all things being equal.
- Tomahawk

So would I, but I wouldn't take the Leafs lightly, and I would fear any team in a 7 game series.

Nobody's saying otherwise, however I'd still much rather face the Leafs than the Bruins, all things being equal.
- Tomahawk

I don't think we need analytics to tell us that though. I would rather the Flyers play any team other than the Bruins.

Teams I would least like the Flyers to play:

1. Bruins
2. Pens
3. Rangers
4. Lightning
5. Habs
6. Wings (Zetterberg and Datsyuk would be back for playoffs)
7. Blue Jackets
8. Leafs
9. Devils
10. Caps

It's such a simple fix, too. Just go pure W-L... no single points, it's either 2 or nothing.
- Tomahawk

Id rather go 3 points for every game if they want to include shootouts.

If we stay with 2 points for every game, I'd rather go without the shootout and 1 point each for ties.

Id rather go 3 points for every game if they want to include shootouts.

If we stay with 2 points for every game, I'd rather go without the shootout and 1 point each for ties.
- PhillySportsGuy

What's the big deal about a team just getting to OT that merits a point in the standings? It feels like it's only there to placate the traditionalists who wouldn't let go of ties. We can argue about how to end a game, be it SO, 3-on-3, etc... but the OT point is the senseless thing that is at the root of all the problems.

What's the big deal about a team just getting to OT that merits a point in the standings? It feels like it's only there to placate the traditionalists who wouldn't let go of ties. We can argue about how to end a game, be it SO, 3-on-3, etc... but the OT point is the senseless thing that is at the root of all the problems.
- Tomahawk

Thats fine. I just don't want to see a team get no points for losing in a shootout. Its a terrible way to end a team game.

What's the big deal about a team just getting to OT that merits a point in the standings? It feels like it's only there to placate the traditionalists who wouldn't let go of ties. We can argue about how to end a game, be it SO, 3-on-3, etc... but the OT point is the senseless thing that is at the root of all the problems.
- Tomahawk

It keeps more teams in the playoff hunt.

Hate it all you want, but it's staying. The owners like it that way.

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I don't think we need analytics to tell us that though. I would rather the Flyers play any team other than the Bruins.

Teams I would least like the Flyers to play:

1. Bruins
2. Pens
3. Rangers
4. Lightning
5. Habs
6. Wings (Zetterberg and Datsyuk would be back for playoffs)
7. Blue Jackets
8. Leafs
9. Devils
10. Caps
- PhillySportsGuy

I dont fear the Pens one bit in a 7 game series.

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- MBFlyerfan

That was nice, even with Sarnia being the worst team in the OHL

i like the shootout and think it should stay

but i agree the point system needs to change if it does.





that being said if they ever change to IIHF repeat shooter bs, im out

i like the shootout and think it should stay

but i agree the point system needs to change if it does.





that being said if they ever change to IIHF repeat shooter bs, im out
- Crimsoninja

I hate the shootout. Maybe its the Flyers lack of success, but I think its a ridiculous end to a team game. Imagine the NBA ending their tie games with a 3 point shootout or MLB ending with a home run derby

i like the shootout and think it should stay

but i agree the point system needs to change if it does.





that being said if they ever change to IIHF repeat shooter bs, im out
- Crimsoninja

Yeah that same shooter crap is lame city.

I hate the shootout. Maybe its the Flyers lack of success, but I think its a ridiculous end to a team game. Imagine the NBA ending their tie games with a 3 point shootout or MLB ending with a home run derby
- PhillySportsGuy

no its def ridiculous but ive come to enjoy it for some sick reason

again, they need to change the point system though

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- MBFlyerfan

Pretty goal.
Points for originality.
Pure/smooth skating ability.
Going between the legs.
Going high cheese on the finish.
And not eating the boards.

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Pretty goal.
Points for originality.
Pure/smooth skating ability.
Going high cheese on the finish.
And not eating the boards.
- Pixote Andolini

And he wasn't drafted, he went to the Carolina camp and they signed him to a contract.

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- MBFlyerfan

Oh poop