Buyout burrows
Booth on waivers kill 2/3s of contract
Use almost no cap space next year play youth
Trade Kesler For Etem and a 1st or Teravainen and a 1st

We have prospects

Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Teraveinen or Etem, Kassian, Corrado, Stanton, and 2 1sts thies year and a good pick next year.

Sedin Sedin Jensen
Shinkaruk Etem Kassian
Higgins Horvat Hansen

Plus those 2 firsts this year and next and all the cap in the world. GET A PP QB with the money. All great teams have one stud dman.
- The_Kuze

Booth only has one more year left, no point in getting rid of him.

A win is a win, but wow only 14 shots against Calgary. Either Torts has lost the locker room faster than we thought he would or his system just flat out sucks. 14 shots against a team like Calgary is a disgrace, even in a win.

Good bounceback game for Lack, he's definitely mentally tougher than Luongo. A lot of goalies would nervous as hell after Brian (frank)ing McGrattan scored from center ice. Once he adjusts to the starting role, he'll be just fine. I'm not a big fan of spending too much of a team's cap hit in net anyways(yes 5.3 for Luongo was solid, but that term sucked). Anything at 4 million or less for a solid starter is great, hopefully Lack develops into that. Markstrom working with Melanson has me intrigued, I've read that he had basically no goalie coach in Florida.

Josh Rimer tweeted that there's expected to be a firesale of Canuck players at the draft. Maybe FA blocking the trades now had more to do with potentially firing Gillis because FA isn't sure if he wants to keep him around yet? I hope that's the case instead of him just flat out refusing trades because he doesn't like them or thought this team had a chance this year.

I'd keep Bieksa around to help the younger players coming up. I'm fie with Kesler and Edler going. Garrison probably won't waive, but I'd be perfetly fine with him getting traded at some point as well. Keep Hamhuis, Bieksa, Tanev, Stanton around and maybe acquire or sign a player while giving Corrado a full time top 6 spot next year to fill out the defense. Higgins is another guy I'd sell high on, keep Hansen around since he's still relatively young and brings some speed to the team. Higgins works his ass off and is a very good puck possession player, but the guy's offensive IQ/vision is not good enough for a top 6 player and I don't see him as a long-term piece here.

I hope Jensen gets a chance to play some good top 6 minutes for at least a few games on either Henrik's or Kesler's line, it'll be good for his development IMO.
- Nucker101

I think Torts' system stinks. Always have. Hence my serious concern when he was hired last summer. Still, this team was far more potent in 2013 than 2014. A portion of that can be attributed to injuries, but far more speaks to the way the players have been utilized and that they seem to be second guessing much of what's being asked of them. He's not the guy for this team.

I actually like our tandem. Whatever one may say of their inexperience, Lack possesses a lot of top 5 goalie stats vs goalies having played more than 20 games. If Rollie Melanson can continue his magic with Markstrom as he has for Luongo, Schneider, Lack, and even Ericsson just over a short amount of time, then we could end up liking how that deal went down.

Don't want to get into trade speculation again (we've been doing that for a month straight) but I agree we need to keep certain core players/pairings in tact. Bieksa-Hamhuis should remain without question. Stanton, Corrado, a re-upped Tanev, and probably Garrison (doubt he'd fetch much of value in trade) should round out our top 6 D. D has not been the problem with this team.

If Jensen isn't playing with Kesler or Henrik then he shouldn't be here. Unfortunately Torts probably feels his job is on the line so he'll do what he feels he needs to now to get points, rather than focus on the future, so Jensen may be marginalized.

As much as it's amusing talking about TankNation the bottom line IMO is that despite all its issues this team is currently punching well below its weight. Unfortunately the reasons for that seem to be as much off the ice (coaching, GM, Ownership) as on it.

Got mad love for that guy, anyone advocating that we move him is an absolute moron.

"I'm a Canuck at heart and I'm going down with the ship"

Its a shame that we don't have more of these personalities on this team, let alone league wide.

After this season, give him the god dam C already, Henrik is not able to pull his general "lead by example" show and it could take the pressure of him to regain his form next season without all the extra media hassle.
- Whiskey-Tango

totally agree with you there.

give bieksa the C, he's shown he has the drive for it.

fire gillis
give Bieksa the C
Its all a good first step to turn it around

Buyout burrows
Booth on waivers kill 2/3s of contract
Use almost no cap space next year play youth
Trade Kesler For Etem and a 1st or Teravainen and a 1st

We have prospects

Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Teraveinen or Etem, Kassian, Corrado, Stanton, and 2 1sts thies year and a good pick next year.

Sedin Sedin Jensen
Shinkaruk Etem Kassian
Higgins Horvat Hansen

Plus those 2 firsts this year and next and all the cap in the world. GET A PP QB with the money. All great teams have one stud dman.
- The_Kuze

There is no way the Canucks will have 4 rookies in the top nine regardless of who gets traded. That roster has Edmonton like failure written all over it.

totally agree with you there.

give bieksa the C, he's shown he has the drive for it.

fire gillis
give Bieksa the C
Its all a good first step to turn it around
- numbear

Bieksa said all the right things in that interview and toasted Gio pretty good but let's not forget that one of his nicknames is Kasual Kevin.

I was greeted in Edmonton the other week to -25 temps. Hopefully AB has warmed up a bit since then.
- AlexF

Sun is shining in Red Deer and currently +10

There is no way the Canucks will have 4 rookies in the top nine regardless of who gets traded. That roster has Edmonton like failure written all over it.
- fiveandagame

And Connor McDavid.

And Connor McDavid.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Oh, Okay, it all makes sense now. They are taking the #tanknation movement seriously.

There is no way the Canucks will have 4 rookies in the top nine regardless of who gets traded. That roster has Edmonton like failure written all over it.
- fiveandagame

This. I'm fully supportive of having a few ELC players on the roster but likewise having too many will bury us in the bottom tier of the league and infect their development with a culture of losing.

Booth only has one more year left, no point in getting rid of him.
- Scooby_Doo

Especially now that Luongo is gone. Cap space isn't really an issue anymore. Even if Booth only plays 8 min per night on the 4th line it is still better than buying him out IMO. Contract year, maybe he lights it up and you can actually trade him at the deadline next year.

Especially now that Luongo is gone. Cap space isn't really an issue anymore. Even if Booth only plays 8 min per night on the 4th line it is still better than buying him out IMO. Contract year, maybe he lights it up and you can actually trade him at the deadline next year.
- 1970vintage

We all know that won't happen

We all know that won't happen
- Whiskey-Tango

Especially now that Luongo is gone. Cap space isn't really an issue anymore. Even if Booth only plays 8 min per night on the 4th line it is still better than buying him out IMO. Contract year, maybe he lights it up and you can actually trade him at the deadline next year.
- 1970vintage

Cap space isnt an issue. The real question is, Does anyone want to with this joke of a franchise in the offseason.

Sure its one of the most beautiful cities in the world. But after the Mike Gillis sideshow that gone on over here over the last 3 years. My guess is not many guys are going to look at us as a Friendly destination

Buyout burrows
Booth on waivers kill 2/3s of contract
Use almost no cap space next year play youth
Trade Kesler For Etem and a 1st or Teravainen and a 1st

We have prospects

Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Teraveinen or Etem, Kassian, Corrado, Stanton, and 2 1sts thies year and a good pick next year.

Sedin Sedin Jensen
Shinkaruk Etem Kassian
Higgins Horvat Hansen

Plus those 2 firsts this year and next and all the cap in the world. GET A PP QB with the money. All great teams have one stud dman.
- The_Kuze

Where's the second 1st round pick coming from? I don't see that.

Where's the second 1st round pick coming from? I don't see that.
- djamon

Trade Kesler For Etem and a 1st or Teravainen and a 1st

Also regarding the poll, If Torts is fired and Gillis stays that could be FA admitting his mistake and letting MG hire his own guy which I'd love to see. That's a long shot though IMO. But if Gillis is fired, I doubt many quality candidates would want to walk into a situation with a hands-on owner and having Torts as your head coach.
- Nucker101

I think it's 100% likely that Gillis is fired, especially since it was reported that Ownership took away his trading privileges last week.

Trade Kesler For Etem and a 1st or Teravainen and a 1st
- pker2theend

Ah...fair enough.

Especially now that Luongo is gone. Cap space isn't really an issue anymore. Even if Booth only plays 8 min per night on the 4th line it is still better than buying him out IMO. Contract year, maybe he lights it up and you can actually trade him at the deadline next year.
- 1970vintage

If Gillis is still in charge I could see him doing nothing at the draft. Next years line up:

Sedin/Sedin/Burrows
Higgins/Kesler/Santorelli (resigned - hometown discount plus NTC )
Booth/Matthias/Kassian
Sestitio/Richardson/Hansen

Hamhuis/Tanev
Edler/Garrison
Stanton/Bieksa

Lack
Markstrom

It's interesting to note that on that roster the only current UFA is Santorelli. Tanev and Kassian are RFA and every other player is under contract. So even if Gillis lets Santorelli walk and buys out Booth, there are not a lot of open roster spots without a trade. I have zero faith in Gillis when it comes to trades.

The only way this team improves is if Gillis is fired and the next GM can work a good trade or two. Other wise, this is the Canucks next year.

Cap space isnt an issue. The real question is, Does anyone want to with this joke of a franchise in the offseason.

Sure its one of the most beautiful cities in the world. But after the Mike Gillis sideshow that gone on over here over the last 3 years. My guess is not many guys are going to look at us as a Friendly destination
- vancity787

I'm not sure its going to matter much when it comes to the UFA's as the pickings are slim and the top guys don't really serve our team direction.

The youngest guys are Callahan (28) and Stastny (28) Michalek (29). Apart from that notables include: Heatly, Gaborik, Moulson, Vanek, Cammy then the old bums Iggy, Jagr and Afly

But, take a look at the RFA's

Subban, O'Reilly, Berglund, B-Schenn, Neiddereter, Gudbransson, Johanson, Nilsson, Connolly, Kreider, Schwartz, Sheahan, R-Smith, M-Foligno, Smith-Pelly, Tatar.

With the added cap space, If GMMG had the balls to attempt to poach one or two of those, that would be a step in the right direction.

The rest of the league seems to hate him already so who the (frank) cares about blow-back. Sign Tanev and let Kassian sign a offer sheet so long as we get one of the above

I don't see this as the coach's fault at all. Everyone on the Canucks board was crying about A.V. being to much of a player's coach etc. and now you guys get a guy with some grit and some heart and the team basically folds under his pressure.

I am all for a re"tool" in Van, I would even cheer for the team a bit. I don't follow that closely but it seems that there are some decent young players on the shelves finally. Get the selfish, bad attitudes out and focus on the youth I say. Kesler, Sestito, Kassian, Hansen...get em out of there. Those bad attitudes are like cancer. Many people (myself included in the past) have criticized Burrows and Bieksa for their cheap play, but I think it's more like "passionate play" that might come close to crossing the line. That's fine, that's great actually. Kesler should go in my opinion, he's just a jerk. There are a few more of those types of guys too.

Anyway, most of this was caused by injuries so people shouldn't be too critical of the Canucks. It's a bit scary for the organization though that the fanbase seems kind of "fairweather". There is no need for a rebuild...re"tool" is the word. I'd start with Kesler.

Schneider would have been nice to retain, but Horvat is awesome and Shinkaruk isn't so bad either. Watch Markstrom shine next year too...I'm jealous.
- JLO961

Yes, it is apparent you don't follow the Canucks closely. Hansen, Sestito (and even Kassian, and Kesler may not be likeable but he has a winning mindset) all have great attitudes. Care to share where you got your information?

I agree with your comments about the fanbase, though. It's definitely bandwagon 101 personified

- pker2theend

kesler for cammalleri

I'm not sure its going to matter much when it comes to the UFA's as the pickings are slim and the top guys don't really serve our team direction.

The youngest guys are Callahan (28) and Stastny (28) Michalek (29). Apart from that notables include: Heatly, Gaborik, Moulson, Vanek, Cammy then the old bums Iggy, Jagr and Afly

But, take a look at the RFA's

Subban, O'Reilly, Berglund, B-Schenn, Neiddereter, Gudbransson, Johanson, Nilsson, Connolly, Kreider, Schwartz, Sheahan, R-Smith, M-Foligno, Smith-Pelly, Tatar.

With the added cap space, If GMMG had the balls to attempt to poach one or two of those, that would be a step in the right direction.

The rest of the league seems to hate him already so who the (frank) cares about blow-back. Sign Tanev and let Kassian sign a offer sheet so long as we get one of the above
- Whiskey-Tango

Offer sheets almost never work. Look at the history. And I'd bet a good portion of those guys will be under new contracts before they are available for an offer-sheet.

kesler for cammalleri
- TheNugeIsHuge

Great deal

Offer sheets almost never work. Look at the history. And I'd bet a good portion of those guys will be under new contracts before they are available for an offer-sheet.
- AlexF

True, but i did see somewhere that Tampa's Connolly isn't too pleased with where he has ended up on the depth chart, with them trying to resign Callahan to what is largely regarded as big $ perhaps we could steal the hometown boy, through offer sheet or trade