That's a decent deal. I'm surprised he didn't take it.
- Yeti1181

I disagree as does most respectable pundits. "Not even close to keslers value" I believe was MacKenzies comment.
Dreger suggested Kadri, a 1st and either Gardiner or Rielly.
Given what the flames received for Boumeester with a train wreck of a contract, I think that's closer to Edlers value

That's a decent deal. I'm surprised he didn't take it.
- Yeti1181

Aquilini doesn't have a glue what he's doing, he's a better judge of wine than players.

I don't think most on here are bandwagon fans. Win or lose they are here everyday talking about the team they love. Just because they are not favourable comments does not make them a bandwagon fan.
- VANTEL

I've been a fan of this team since I was a little guy, which is longer than some of these (frank)ers have been alive. If I was gonna give up I'd have done it long ago, I may not always be happy but this is my team.

Anyone watch the Mike Modano tribute? Almost brought a tear to my eye, Dean Braham and I used to call him chubby cheeks, he hated that lol.

I disagree as does most respectable pundits. "Not even close to keslers value" I believe was MacKenzies comment.
Dreger suggested Kadri, a 1st and either Gardiner or Rielly.
Given what the flames received for Boumeester with a train wreck of a contract, I think that's closer to Edlers value
- Bieksa#3

Dreger suggested that's what Gillis would ask for. Needless to say, he isn't getting that kind of return.

I disagree as does most respectable pundits. "Not even close to keslers value" I believe was MacKenzies comment.
Dreger suggested Kadri, a 1st and either Gardiner or Rielly.
Given what the flames received for Boumeester with a train wreck of a contract, I think that's closer to Edlers value
- Bieksa#3

I think he gets a first and a solid prospect or very good 2/3 liner

I've been a fan of this team since I was a little guy, which is longer than some of these (frank)ers have been alive. If I was gonna give up I'd have done it long ago, I may not always be happy but this is my team.

Anyone watch the Mike Modano tribute? Almost brought a tear to my eye, Dean Braham and I used to call him chubby cheeks, he hated that lol.
- LeftCoaster

There is nothing wrong with being upset about the direction or state of the team. I personally am scared were gonna flame or leaf it.

I think he gets a first and a solid prospect or very good 2/3 liner
- Yeti1181

So why is the market for him so much less the players with same stats, value etc?

Dreger suggested that's what Gillis would ask for. Needless to say, he isn't getting that kind of return.
- djamon

So looks like he's a canucks for a couple more yrs

So why is the market for him so much less the players with same stats, value etc?
- Bieksa#3

Because he's a Canuck, they are all hated.

Because he's a Canuck, they are all hated.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Apparently, really is no other basis to what he's saying.

So why is the market for him so much less the players with same stats, value etc?
- Bieksa#3

Vanek got a mid-level prospect and a 2nd. The worry with Kesler is that he's never gonna be what he was 4 years ago due to his health.

So why is the market for him so much less the players with same stats, value etc?
- Bieksa#3

Who is the value so high for? Who are we comparing him to? His last two years, last year he had a pretty significant injury last year. I don't think a second line center are going to get you a huge return.

Vanek got a mid-level prospect and a 2nd. The worry with Kesler is that he's never gonna be what he was 4 years ago due to his health.
- djamon

A Ufa for a guy signed to a sweetheart of a deal with 2 yrs left thanks for your input

Because he's a Canuck, they are all hated.
- A_SteamingLombardi

No because I don't think he's as valuable as you do I don't care what team he's plays for.

Who is the value so high for? Who are we comparing him to? His last two years, last year he had a pretty significant injury last year. I don't think a second line center are going to get you a huge return.
- Yeti1181

Mike Richards

Vanek got a mid-level prospect and a 2nd. The worry with Kesler is that he's never gonna be what he was 4 years ago due to his health.
- djamon

Kesler is signed for 2 more years @ 5mil, Vanek is a 2 month rental

Kesler is signed for 2 more years @ 5mil, Vanek is a 2 month rental
- A_SteamingLombardi

I pointed this out. I'm not sure why he posted that. My dog I'm sure can see the large differance between the 2. But this is HB

Mike Richards
- Bieksa#3

So top six, a prospect and a 2nd so you think kesler gets you more why?

A Ufa for a guy signed to a sweetheart of a deal with 2 yrs left thanks for your input
- Bieksa#3

I'm not sure 5m is as much of a sweetheart deal as you do. And being a pending UFA doesn't automatically lessen a player's value. Exhibit A is the returns for Miller and Luongo...2 relatively equal goalies.

Is Kesler a 50 point guy...or a 70 point guy going forward?

A Ufa for a guy signed to a sweetheart of a deal with 2 yrs left thanks for your input
- Bieksa#3

5 million for second line center isNt a sweetheart of a deal, it's a good deal but sweetheart not really.

I'm not sure 5m is as much of a sweetheart deal as you do. And being a pending UFA doesn't automatically lessen a player's value. Exhibit A is the returns for Miller and Luongo,,,2 relatively equal goalies.

Is Kesler a 50 point guy...or a 70 point guy going forward?
- djamon

Depends where he goes and who he plays with.

So top six, a prospect and a 2nd so you think kesler gets you more why?
- Yeti1181

No that's what we want. A top 6, a bluechip prospect(as brayden schenn was) and a pick. Not sure how 2 1sts and a decent prospect equal this

There is nothing wrong with being upset about the direction or state of the team. I personally am scared were gonna flame or leaf it.
- Bieksa#3

If FA had the balls he could make a ballsy move. Remember when Flyers offer sheeted Kesler. Payback is a female dog.

Canucks next year have about 12 mil in cap space. That is every before they do a buyout or get rid of players.

Scooby made a good point before that Booth has one more year left so why bother to buy him out. Canucks do have a left winger making 7 mil and has done very little since his concussion. A new GM could say let's buy him out we are going a new direction.

The new GM could turn around and offer Brayden Schenn that 7 years 7 mil. If Flyers matched they would have 5 mil to sign 6 players. If they let him go it would cost 2 firsts and a second.

I know Gillis would never do that but a new GM could .I think Schenn would be a hell of lot better than Daniel.

Mike Richards
- Bieksa#3

Not a terrible comp...but Richards was 3 years younger and better offensively.

I pointed this out. I'm not sure why he posted that. My dog I'm sure can see the large differance between the 2. But this is HB
- Bieksa#3

Your right in a way. My guess is what will happen is he won't be traded till the trade deadline just before he becomes a free agent. And we will get nothing probably a weak first and some mediocre prospect.