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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 8:13 PM ET
Sorry to say but there is no way you would even get Drouin straight up for Kesler. Not that he's not worth much, but Drouin has the benefit of being an elite prospect AND an affordable contract. To a team like Tampa that's worth so much more, especially when they're already staying reasonably competitive without him.
- lumlums

What I said was that's a comparable package
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:16 PM ET
Drouin sucks.
- VANTEL


Let's not judge a guy before he even laces up his skates for a single NHL game, eh?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:17 PM ET
But that is a comparable package.

As I said the canucks need a deal like this to even consider dealing kesler.

My of season. (Feel free to argue with my moves)

Edler to Washington for Marcus Johansson
Hansen to Winnipeg for 2nd and 3rd
Sign moulson 4 yrs 20 mill
Grabovski 3 yrs 12 mill
Tanev 5 yrs 15 mill
Elliot 2 yrs 5 mill
Buy out Booth

Sedins Kesler
Moulson Johannson Higgins
Jensen/Santorelli Mathias Burrows

- Bieksa#3

Drouin has the ability to be elite and schenn was going to be very good 1st liner that's why I don't see it going especially with Tampa not wanting to go crazy with money.

Pretty good probably get something back with johanssen
Seems good
Moulson might get slightly more but good idea to push for him
Meh Grabo only if use on second line not as good as shutdown checking
Last three good deals.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Mar 9 @ 8:18 PM ET
He has made an offer sheet before with Backes ,why not do it again to Schenn . Compensation is two firsts and a second and third.

Offer 7.5 x7 years.

- VANTEL


For Brayden Schenn? Holmgren would walk away.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:19 PM ET
Or we could pay Gaborik Healy 7. 5 mil
- VANTEL

Are you trying to destroy the organization Vantel.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 9 @ 8:20 PM ET
Are you trying to destroy the organization Vantel.
- Yeti1181

Moi
smkuchta
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Puerto Vallarta
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 9 @ 8:20 PM ET
What?!? No snarky tweets from Luongo after giving up 3 goals in the 3rd period against Boston??

Oh well nobody in FLA will care....
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Mar 9 @ 8:21 PM ET
But that is a comparable package.

As I said the canucks need a deal like this to even consider dealing kesler.

My of season. (Feel free to argue with my moves)

Edler to Washington for Marcus Johansson
Hansen to Winnipeg for 2nd and 3rd
Sign moulson 4 yrs 20 mill
Grabovski 3 yrs 12 mill
Tanev 5 yrs 15 mill
Elliot 2 yrs 5 mill
Buy out Booth

Sedins Kesler
Moulson Johannson Higgins
Jensen/Santorelli Mathias Burrows

- Bieksa#3


Those are solid moves...I actually think you can get more for Edler.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:22 PM ET
What?!? No snarky tweets from Luongo after giving up 3 goals in the 3rd period against Boston??

Oh well nobody in FLA will care....

- smkuchta

He will later probably he makes fun of himself more then anyone.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
Those are solid moves...I actually think you can get more for Edler.
- djamon

Maybe, lets assume a depth player or pick. Nothing that has a huge impact on the roster. Also noticed I forgot to put Grabowski in the li e up. Also. Be willing to go 6 mill per on a shorter term with moulson.
Edit. And didn't dress Kassian.

Sedins kesler
Moulson Johansson Kassian
Burrows Granbowski Higgins
Richardson Mathias/Santorelli Setisto

(frank) it forget Grabovski and leave a roster spot for Jensen/Horvat/Gaunce etc. Mathias or Santorelli can always play there if nobody earns the spot
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
He will later probably he makes fun of himself more then anyone.
- Yeti1181

Yep
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 9 @ 8:25 PM ET
For Brayden Schenn? Holmgren would walk away.
- djamon

That would be the plan then we have a first line winger for the next 7 years. Then trade Kesler for a High prospect nd a pick. Edler for a high prospect like Tatar and Reset ,rebuild and retool complete.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
That would be the plan then we have a first line winger for the next 7 years. Then trade Kesler for a High prospect nd a pick. Edler for a high prospect like Tatar and Reset ,rebuild and retool complete.
- VANTEL

Your entire first line would be making 7 million. We could call the line the 7illionairs.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
Yep
- Bieksa#3

Chelsea Dagger tweet was good one.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:28 PM ET
But that is a comparable package.

As I said the canucks need a deal like this to even consider dealing kesler.


My of season. (Feel free to argue with my moves)

Edler to Washington for Marcus Johansson
Hansen to Winnipeg for 2nd and 3rd
Sign moulson 4 yrs 20 mill
Grabovski 3 yrs 12 mill
Tanev 5 yrs 15 mill
Elliot 2 yrs 5 mill
Buy out Booth

Sedins Kesler
Moulson Johannson Higgins
Jensen/Santorelli Mathias Burrows

- Bieksa#3


It depends. Between the media and Gillis' apparent inability to deal with players who seemingly want out, this could turn into a situation where all you get for a very good player is a bottom 6 guy and a prospect...
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:28 PM ET
That would be the plan then we have a first line winger for the next 7 years. Then trade Kesler for a High prospect nd a pick. Edler for a high prospect like Tatar and Reset ,rebuild and retool complete.
- VANTEL


I'd be nervous to pay Brayden Scheen 7.5m per for 7 years. He's not top line material yet and has only started to assert himself in the NHL. 7.5 is bonafide PPG material.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
I'd be nervous to pay Brayden Scheen 7.5m per for 7 years. He's not top line material yet and has only started to assert himself in the NHL. 7.5 is bonafide PPG material.
- AlexF

Vantel plan is to burn it down from the inside.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'd be nervous to pay Brayden Scheen 7.5m per for 7 years. He's not top line material yet and has only started to assert himself in the NHL. 7.5 is bonafide PPG material.
- AlexF


Agreed. He should top out as a very good player, but certainly not close to elite. Kinda like a 1C/2C tweener...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 9 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'd be nervous to pay Brayden Scheen 7.5m per for 7 years. He's not top line material yet and has only started to assert himself in the NHL. 7.5 is bonafide PPG material.
- AlexF

Henrik and Daniel are on pace for 50 pts and they get payed 7 mil.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
But that is a comparable package.

As I said the canucks need a deal like this to even consider dealing kesler.

My of season. (Feel free to argue with my moves)

Edler to Washington for Marcus Johansson
Hansen to Winnipeg for 2nd and 3rd
Sign moulson 4 yrs 20 mill
Grabovski 3 yrs 12 mill
Tanev 5 yrs 15 mill
Elliot 2 yrs 5 mill
Buy out Booth

Sedins Kesler
Moulson Johannson Higgins
Jensen/Santorelli Mathias Burrows

- Bieksa#3


I think that's fair value for Edler. You may even be able to extract a high pick as well.

But to put it politely my confidence in our top brass pulling off one of these deals, let alone all of them, is low.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel are on pace for 50 pts and they get payed 7 mil.
- VANTEL

Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 25m
And from what I'm hearing there will b a fire sale in Vancouver at the draft. Kesler, Edler, Bieksa must go. What does that mean for Sedins?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 9 @ 8:33 PM ET
Vantel plan is to burn it down from the inside.
- Yeti1181

Honest question who would you rather at this time and going forward , Brayden Schenn or Daniel SEdin.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:33 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel are on pace for 50 pts and they get payed 7 mil.
- VANTEL


You know the Sedins' history and how they were playing prior to that signing. Are you really going to make that comparison?
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Mar 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel are on pace for 50 pts and they get payed 7 mil.
- VANTEL


They were underpaid for years...I think this deal is basically a nice little retirement package for the pair of them.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 25m
And from what I'm hearing there will b a fire sale in Vancouver at the draft. Kesler, Edler, Bieksa must go. What does that mean for Sedins?

- Yeti1181


Good thing we have Josh Rimer to tell us these things. Who was his source, HB?
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