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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
Anyone else wishing his ex got ownership of the Canucks in the settlement?
- Scooby_Doo


LOL, I was thinking that earlier!!!

Not trying to sound sexist but I'm guessing she would have let Gillis run the team in its entirety without meddling. At least then we'd know who to hold accountable.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Mar 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
Leafs fans....

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
I bet we aren't willing to offer the kind of term and $$ they'll be looking for.
- Chest Rockwell

Love the new avatar!!
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
we blew up our management and coaching staff this summer. Only Tim Army was retained as a coach and he joined the organization during the lock out season.

New Head, Associate, Video, Defence, Goalie coaches as well as Roy and Sakic taking over operations and Kroeke's son taking over as president. Massive overhaul and its panning out

- DDM-Coga


Looking at the roster I would assume that the scouting department is pretty competent as well.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Mar 11 @ 2:45 PM ET
They just fired 1,000 food service employees. Sign of the times, attendance is down.
- moondawg


Perhaps they are just projecting this thing is going to get worse. #TANKNATION.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
we blew up our management and coaching staff this summer. Only Tim Army was retained as a coach and he joined the organization during the lock out season.

New Head, Associate, Video, Defence, Goalie coaches as well as Roy and Sakic taking over operations and Kroeke's son taking over as president. Massive overhaul and its panning out

- DDM-Coga


The key take-away here is the "we" you're referring to was, I assume, Avs ownership. Unfortunately in our case, it appears micromanagement from Canucks ownership is a large part of the problem.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Mar 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
Can't blame them for ditching Aramark and doing it on their own. Hopefully this means better service and better beer selection.

(frank)ing unions.

- Scooby_Doo


I didn't get the whole story, thought they were just laying folks off.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Looking at the roster I would assume that the scouting department is pretty competent as well.
- fiveandagame


Billington and Pearcy are pretty good at their jobs. Besides the Duchene draft year getting O'Reilly and Barrie from the 2nd and 3rd rounds, we havent really hit outside the 1st round gold in a while. Still time with some of the guys down on the farm though.

Picking up Holden, Benoit, and Guenin as AHL cast offs for dirt cheap hasnt been bad either, a lot better than I expected going into the season.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Mar 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Lack hasn't been the same since the Heritage game. Torts screwed up two goalies with that dumb move. He embarrassed Luongo and put Eddie on the spot to get attacked by stupid fans and media. Torts is always talking about knowing how to push different players' buttons to get results. It appears he doesn't know a single thing about human nature and how to effectively motivate.
- bazz


Torts is so tone def that he screwed that up... Imagine how bad the rest of the team is... OH WAIT....
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Mar 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
Love the new avatar!!
- Marwood


Thanks, seemed fitting
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Mar 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
I bet we aren't willing to offer the kind of term and $$ they'll be looking for.
- Chest Rockwell


Elliott, Brian » G 28 STL 26 1,418 16 5 2 3 2.07 .916
Montoya, Al » G 29 WPG 20 1,107 10 4 3 2 2.17 .926
Johnson, Chad » G 27 BOS 20 1,083 13 3 1 1 2.22 .919
Halak, Jaroslav » G 28 WAS 40 2,238 24 9 4 4 2.23 .917
Greiss, Thomas » G 28 PHX 15 748 7 5 1 2 2.25 .927
Hiller, Jonas » G 32 ANA 42 2,500 26 9 6 5 2.28 .917
Peters, Justin » G 27 CAR 21 1,225 7 9 4 1 2.50 .919
Brodeur, Martin » G 41 NJD 31 1,845 16 11 4 3 2.54 .898
Gustavsson, Jonas » G 29 DET 24 1,367 15 4 3 0 2.55 .912
Giguere, J. » G 36 COL 17 959 10 5 0 2 2.57 .915
Miller, Ryan » G 33 STL 40 2,384 15 22 3 0 2.72 .924
McElhinney, C. » G 30 CLB 23 1,186 8 9 1 2 2.83 .907
Hutton, Carter » G 28 NAS 32 1,685 14 10 4 0 2.85 .903
Thomas, Tim » G 39 DAL 40 2,299 16 20 3 0 2.87 .909
Nabokov, Evgeni » G 38 NYI 34 1,887 12 13 6 2 2.93 .900
Berra, Reto » G 27 COL 29 1,648 9 17 2 0 2.95 .897
Bryzgalov, Ilya » G 33 MIN 20 1,135 5 8 5 1 3.01 .908
McKenna, Mike » G 30 CLB 4 219 1 1 1 0 3.01 .904
Clemmensen, Scott » G 36 FLA 16 854 6 6 1 0 3.02 .896
Emery, Ray » G 31 PHI 22 1,071 7 9 1 1 3.03 .899
MacDonald, Joey » G 34 CGY 7 417 3 3 1 0 3.17 .885
Labarbera, Jason » G 34 CHI 7 348 1 3 0 0 3.28 .870
Dubnyk, Devan » G 27 MTL 32 1,678 11 17 2 2 3.36 .894
Khabibulin, N. » G 41 CHI 4 168 1 0 1 0 5.00 .811
Desjardins, C. » G 28 TBL 1 18 0 1 0 0 6.67 .846

Here are our choices, mostly dog poop.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
The key take-away here is the "we" you're referring to was, I assume, Avs ownership. Unfortunately in our case, it appears micromanagement from Canucks ownership is a large part of the problem.
- AlexF


We as in Avs organization yes sorry.
Key was getting Kroeke's kid as president, invested interest in the team running it day to day, more likely to support and fund moves that Roy and Sakic want to make. If he doesnt become president I dont think Roy or Sakic come on board and we are looking at a lottery pick again under Sacco
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:52 PM ET
Colorado management >>>>>>Vancouver management
- fiveandagame

Greg Sherman?
Surrender Monkey
Joined: 02.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:52 PM ET
Lol This team officially sucks.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 11 @ 2:53 PM ET
We as in Avs organization yes sorry.
Key was getting Kroeke's kid as president, invested interest in the team running it day to day, more likely to support and fund moves that Roy and Sakic want to make. If he doesnt become president I dont think Roy or Sakic come on board and we are looking at a lottery pick again under Sacco

- DDM-Coga


It's amazing what a few clear-headed intelligent decisions can do for an organization.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:55 PM ET
Greg Sherman?
- LeftCoaster


Looking back now, he didnt do too bad of a job. Trading for Varly, Johnson, McGinn and Signing PAP seem to be working out now.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 11 @ 2:56 PM ET
Greg Sherman?
- LeftCoaster



Colorado 42-18-5
Vancouver 29-28-8
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
It's amazing what a few clear-headed intelligent decisions can do for an organization.
- AlexF


or Stan Kroenke forcing to "sell" the Avs to his son with the new NFL rule in 2014 that you cant own other sports franchies outside of your NFL owned teams city.

Stan only cares about the Rams and Arsenal FC
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
Lol This team officially sucks.
- Surrender Monkey

Habs were in that position a couple years ago
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
A team like Colorado has been the poops since 2009, thru the draft and some trades they are now in a position to be the of the better teams in the league, this can be done.
- LeftCoaster


I don't see anything close to what the avs have in young stars on this Canucks team ... You can hope for Colorado but this team is closer to the flames model than the avs ....everyone on here can deny that and say you have better peices to trade ....but you still have to trade them and get a good return ...I don't have confidence in anyone working for the Canucks to do this ....so until management proves otherwise you are a bubble team that somehow is capable of hitting rock bottom over and over ....pretty sure flames fans remember this ....even the post game interviews are similar
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
Lol This team officially sucks.
- Surrender Monkey

F*ck off, we have little patience for trolls today.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
LOL, I was thinking that earlier!!!

Not trying to sound sexist but I'm guessing she would have let Gillis run the team in its entirety without meddling. At least then we'd know who to hold accountable.

- AlexF



The current Stars ownership wanted to buy the Canucks with the Aquilini's as partners before Aquilini apparently turned his back on him.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 11 @ 3:02 PM ET
Looking back now, he didnt do too bad of a job. Trading for Varly, Johnson, McGinn and Signing PAP seem to be working out now.
- DDM-Coga



Yeah, I think Sacco was the bigger problem.
StevenStiller
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.26.2010

Mar 11 @ 3:03 PM ET
God, enough with the tone deaf phrase. It made no sense when Botched used it and still makes no sense now that every member of the Vancouver media has now used for everytime the Canucks do something. Tell me how is it tone deaf?
Surrender Monkey
Joined: 02.24.2009

Mar 11 @ 3:03 PM ET
F*ck off, we have little patience for trolls today.
- Marwood


Is it because Canucks fans have finally realized that their team isn't top tier like they all said? Hurts when you realize your team blows eh? Better start a riot to make your selves feel better.
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