On the point I think. The extent to which he doesn't' work as a Dman (esp on our team) has been overblown.
- Morris

My only issue is using two trade chips for one position essentially. If we split up gagner and the 1st for centre and defense we can address two issues.

I've also advocated moving gagner for a first to get a more universal trade chip to move for another immediate top 4 or 6 player.

Byfuglien sucks, only thing he is good at is parking himself in front of the net and getting some PP goals.

And you can get him for a lot cheaper than that. Jets were asking just a pick and player for him at the deadline
- DDM-Coga

depends on what pick and which player, of course. But interesting, I didn't hear that.

I don't think he sucks at all really, unique skillset and does a variety of things not a lot of other players can do.

My only issue is using two trade chips for one position essentially. If we split up gagner and the 1st for centre and defense we can address two issues.

I've also advocated moving gagner for a first to get a more universal trade chip to move for another immediate top 4 or 6 player.
- ystoil

I don't think gags has near the value many of us hope. If we're goin to be landing a big fish ima bet he's one of the sweeteners to put the deal over the top. And we maybe even get amother decent asset thrown our way.

How many teams are gonna trade us a dubinsky or hanzal for gagner?

I think we concentrate on defence, and hope to shore up forward positions through free agency/graduating barons.

If Seth Jones can drop to 4, then Ekblad could do the same. How torn would you be if we drafted at 4 and both Ekblad and Draisaitl were both available?
- ChetManly

I wouldn't be surprised if draisaitl is still there at 4 or 6. Not sold on him. I rather pick Bennett over him.

My only issue is using two trade chips for one position essentially. If we split up gagner and the 1st for centre and defense we can address two issues.

I've also advocated moving gagner for a first to get a more universal trade chip to move for another immediate top 4 or 6 player.
- ystoil

Id temper the return of Gagner....

I wouldn't be surprised if draisaitl is still there at 4 or 6. Not sold on him. I rather pick Bennett over him.
- deks1

I would prefer Bennett as well. I have heard he has a huge work ethic. I'm sure McCann would be a fine pick as well. if we picked even later after a trade.

Dear god reading this poop makes my head hurt sometimes...


Klef will not get over 9 games.


Dump and chase hockey licks ass. Possession hockey is better to watch and results in more goals.

Love how many fans think they know exactly how to fix everything.

Dear god reading this poop makes my head hurt sometimes...


Klef will not get over 9 games.


Dump and chase hockey licks ass. Possession hockey is better to watch and results in more goals.

Love how many fans think they know exactly how to fix everything.
- Iggysbff

you seem grumpier than normal today!

Id temper the return of Gagner....
- deks1

Gags has been playing quite well the past 10 games or so.

you seem grumpier than normal today!
- ChetManly

I seriously wonder sometimes if common sense is a thing of the past.....

I don't think gags has near the value many of us hope. If we're goin to be landing a big fish ima bet he's one of the sweeteners to put the deal over the top. And we maybe even get amother decent asset thrown our way.

How many teams are gonna trade us a dubinsky or hanzal for gagner?

I think we concentrate on defence, and hope to shore up forward positions through free agency/graduating barons.
- hugefemale dog77

I think Gags + can get us something useful. Might want to keep him until after the Shea Weber sweepstakes at the draft.

As much as I like Weber, the most I'm thinking we should pay is Eberle, Klefbom, our 2014 1st and our 2015 1st and not a penny more!

depends on what pick and which player, of course. But interesting, I didn't hear that.

I don't think he sucks at all really, unique skillset and does a variety of things not a lot of other players can do.
- Morris

just watching him during the last Avs and Jets game, I would hate him on my team, he just clutches and grabs in the corner, takes 2 strides and then quits. Very lazy player. Duchene burned him all game long with his speed, he had to maul him just to try and catch up to him.

But yeah gary lawless of the wpg free press was saying that was the rumoured asking price for him, 1st rounder and a player. All depending on the pick. So I think if you gave up the 5th and gagner, you will be getting a lot more than just buff and the 11th back.

I think Gags + can get us something useful. Might want to keep him until after the Shea Weber sweepstakes at the draft.

As much as I like Weber, the most I'm thinking we should pay is Eberle, Klefbom, our 2014 1st and our 2015 1st and not a penny more!
- Jeropotato

I wouldn't even do that. If its not the magic fix then we are (frank)ed for many more years.

I think Gags + can get us something useful. Might want to keep him until after the Shea Weber sweepstakes at the draft.

As much as I like Weber, the most I'm thinking we should pay is Eberle, Klefbom, our 2014 1st and our 2015 1st and not a penny more!
- Jeropotato

Holy (frank)- did you see the trade deadline??? Do you recall what we paid for Pronger?? We are not offersheeting here and Weber is 10 mill per year- he is not worth that much in a salary cap market...

I wouldn't even do that. If its not the magic fix then we are (frank)ed for many more years.
- Iggysbff

I wouldn't say many more. I think Mac T can do enough to get us close to the playoffs next year. With Mac T in charge I predict we make the playoffs in 2015-16.

I seriously wonder sometimes if common sense is a thing of the past.....
- Iggysbff

I would very much say that it is. Not many people have it nowadays. It's rather depressing.

Holy (frank)- did you see the trade deadline??? Do you recall what we paid for Pronger?? We are not offersheeting here and Weber is 10 mill per year- he is not worth that much in a salary cap market...
- saskoil21

Hahaha....trade deadline this year was strangely bargain basement. It might be too much, but for sure it will cost Eberle and a 1st. Maybe more.

I would very much say that it is. Not many people have it nowadays. It's rather depressing.
- ChetManly

(frank) the common sense!

Dear god reading this poop makes my head hurt sometimes...


Klef will not get over 9 games.


Dump and chase hockey licks ass. Possession hockey is better to watch and results in more goals.

Love how many fans think they know exactly how to fix everything.
- Iggysbff

Nope, only you have all the answers.

Nope, only you have all the answers.
- nanook82

When have I said I have the answers?

I think Mact will do the best he can with what he has. Just like he did when he was coach. I'm open to him doing all sorts of things. I've like pretty much all of his moves. Except Eakins.....but I'm not about to advocate for yet another coaching change.

When have I said I have the answers?

I think Mact will do the best he can with what he has. Just like he did when he was coach. I'm open to him doing all sorts of things. I've like pretty much all of his moves. Except Eakins.....but I'm not about to advocate for yet another coaching change.
- Iggysbff

We should have kept Kruger... At least as an assistant.

Dear god reading this poop makes my head hurt sometimes...


Klef will not get over 9 games.


Dump and chase hockey licks ass. Possession hockey is better to watch and results in more goals.

Love how many fans think they know exactly how to fix everything.
- Iggysbff

It's really Klef vs Larsen/Fedun at this point isn't it?

I realize now that they don't want to burn a year of his contract, though so you may be right.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about dump and chase. Taylor Hall was among the best last year at zone entries with possession, and I think him being forced to dump and chase may limit his turnovers, but it's directly related to his supposed dimished ability to create chances this year.

Also, I don't care if he turns the puck over 5 times a game if he back checks like he did last night.

We should have kept Kruger... At least as an assistant.
- HouseArrest187

Dunno whether Krueger would have taken a demotion, but I think Eakins needs a PP guru. We're getting very little out of a LOT of PP talent this year.

When have I said I have the answers?

I think Mact will do the best he can with what he has. Just like he did when he was coach. I'm open to him doing all sorts of things. I've like pretty much all of his moves. Except Eakins.....but I'm not about to advocate for yet another coaching change.
- Iggysbff

Well I guess you never said it directly, my apologies. But you came in here (and I know you're on here a lot), read all the comments, said "its funny how fans know everything about fixing the franchise" then replied to a bunch of comments with your knowledge. Just found it funny thats all. Don't get me wrong though, you have good knowledge.

But I'm with you on the coaching change, we're stuck with Eakins so we all might as well get use to his bad hair cut and dull looks from behind the bench.

My only issue is using two trade chips for one position essentially. If we split up gagner and the 1st for centre and defense we can address two issues.

I've also advocated moving gagner for a first to get a more universal trade chip to move for another immediate top 4 or 6 player.
- ystoil

As much as I would applaud it happening, Gags isn't getting us a 1st