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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
The simplest solution that makes the team better is moving B Schenn back to Wing, and Lecavalier back to Center.
- MJL


I agree. I'd put him back to center right away and move BSchenn back to wing. This current 2nd line combination is bad enough to cost the Flyers a playoff spot.

If Vinny is still awful back at his natural position, he will have to go down to the 4th line. Tomahawk's lineup would give us 4 lines that can score. If Vinny's upset about ice time he can request a trade back to Tampa this offseason.

Akeson/McGinn Giroux Voracek
Hartnell Schenn Simmonds
Read Couturier Hall
Raffl Vinny Downie
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
They won't trade Couturier. He's the second most important forward on the team. He's the main penalty killer and gets all the toughest defensive assignments.
- Feanor


plus, he already has an amazing beard, in addition to missing his top middle teeth.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:40 PM ET
plus, he already has an amazing beard, in addition to missing his top middle teeth.
- hammarby31


And he's starting to play mean, with an attitude. And I like it.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:40 PM ET
plus, he already has an amazing beard, in addition to missing his top middle teeth.
- hammarby31


Double post laggggg.....
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 12 @ 1:43 PM ET
I'm afraid with the upcoming schedule, the Flyers are going to walk into such a sad time at the station.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
Akeson/McGinn Giroux Voracek
Hartnell Schenn Simmonds
Read Couturier Hall
Raffl Vinny Downie

Swap Hall and Raffl depending on situation.

- Tomahawk


Hall can't play on the third line. He can barely handle his 4th line ice time.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 1:45 PM ET
Hall can't play on the third line. He can barely handle his 4th line ice time.
- FlyersSteve118


He would do a better job there than Downie.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 12 @ 1:48 PM ET
0-6 hurt them, no doubt. so did the incorrect call on the ice for the disallowed goal. i'll never understand making one thing worth more than the other. they were robbed of the game tying goal, simple as that.

i'm surprised it's taken this long for a shero statue to have been made...maybe they wanted to wait until he was finally inducted into the HHOF.

good luck with the book. no doubt it will be a terrific read, entertaining, well written and worthy of shero's legacy.

a bit shocking that harntell's played 500 for the flyers. i never thought he'd last that long.

i agree that vinny needs to get demoted. he's providing not much of anything out there. very disappointing.

having to wait for saturday blows. the wings blow. the jackets are pissing me off and so is just about everything else. lupul. jagr. (frank). off.

- hammarby31


the call on Downie typifies what's wrong with refs. He doesn't see any infraction, only a downright embellishment and makes a call. brutal.

like Mr. Fuji
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
He would do a better job there than Downie.
- Feanor


No, maybe someone like Vandevelde or Holmstrom, but Hall is not a big minute shut down guy. He is a sheltered 33 year old 4th liner, who struggles in his limited minutes and has one talent, his faceoff skills.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
And he's starting to play mean, with an attitude. And I like it.
- wolfhounds


You would be mean and have an attitude as well if you lived under the Walt Whitman bridge and begged for money with a cardboard sign. I see Couts there every day.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
Hall can't play on the third line. He can barely handle his 4th line ice time.
- FlyersSteve118



It's certainly not ideal, I agree.

Really wish the NHL was like the SHL... they could dress Vinny as one of the three extras and keep the identities of the top-4 lines intact.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:53 PM ET
You would be mean and have an attitude as well if you lived under the Walt Whitman bridge and begged for money with a cardboard sign. I see Couts there every day.
- MBFlyerfan



That's funny... Clement said he saw Coots on a deserted island talking to a volleyball.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 1:55 PM ET
That's funny... Clement said he saw Coots on a deserted island talking to a volleyball.
- Tomahawk


That was funny
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 12 @ 1:56 PM ET
It's certainly not ideal, I agree.
- Tomahawk


No I mean it can't and wouldn't happen. If Hall is in your line up he is on your fourth line.

I think the idea of bringing up Akeson would be interesting though.

Akeson Giroux Voracek
Hartnell Schenn Simmond
Downie Coots Read
Raffl VL Rinaldo

And having Hall in the box as our last guy sits pretty well with me as well. That fourth line could actually add some scoring punch.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 12 @ 1:56 PM ET
You would be mean and have an attitude as well if you lived under the Walt Whitman bridge and begged for money with a cardboard sign. I see Couts there every day.
- MBFlyerfan


With this guy...



hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 2:00 PM ET
I'm afraid with the upcoming schedule, the Flyers are going to walk into such a sad time at the station.
- PLindbergh31


they certainly are. and losing 3 of the last 4 points while playing well for the majority of both of those games is bad, bad news.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 2:01 PM ET
the call on Downie typifies what's wrong with refs. He doesn't see any infraction, only a downright embellishment and makes a call. brutal.

like Mr. Fuji

- wilsonecho91


i missed a lot of the 1st period...didn't see that play, but i don't need to see it to understand exactly what happened and agree with you.

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 12 @ 2:01 PM ET
they certainly are. and losing 3 of the last 4 points while playing well for the majority of both of those games is bad, bad news.
- hammarby31


I'm hoping last night's game pisses them off and they take it out on Pitt this weekend.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'm hoping last night's game pisses them off and they take it out on Pitt this weekend.
- wolfhounds


the pens just keep winning, but anything goes when these 2 teams meet for some reason.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 12 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm afraid with the upcoming schedule, the Flyers are going to walk into such a sad time at the station.
- PLindbergh31


Agreed
and nice Cream reference as well!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
Just looking at the standings. The following two, hold the last two spots in the division.

Rangers: 66 games played. 74 points.
Columbus: 65 games played. 73 points. One more game won than Philadelphia.

In terms of wild card spots:

Tampa Bay: 65 games played. 75 points
Philadelphia: 65 games played. 73 points


Now... Pulling up the rear. Ottawa, Washington, New Jersey and Detriot are all within 5 points. The one good thing is that the Flyers hold a decent advantage over these teams on the outside, with the amount of games won, when compared to OTL.

Will be a hard fight to the end.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'm afraid with the upcoming schedule, the Flyers are going to walk into such a sad time at the station.
- PLindbergh31

Just gotta hope they rise to the challenge. It's not impossible against Pittsburgh, at least. They usually play down to us.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
I'm hoping last night's game pisses them off and they take it out on Pitt this weekend.
- wolfhounds


I was hoping they would be past the point of needing the Pens to play their best.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
No I mean it can't and wouldn't happen. If Hall is in your line up he is on your fourth line.

I think the idea of bringing up Akeson would be interesting though.

Akeson Giroux Voracek
Hartnell Schenn Simmond
Downie Coots Read
Raffl VL Rinaldo

And having Hall in the box as our last guy sits pretty well with me as well. That fourth line could actually add some scoring punch.

- FlyersSteve118



Honestly, if it were up to me, I wouldn't even have VL in the lineup at all. Even trying to hide him on the 4th-line negates that line's ability to function as an limited energy unit... and as you said, trying to move Hall (or Rinaldo) up the lineup is problematic.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
How many of these remaining March games do you expect the team to win? My guess is three.

Pit twice
Chi
Dal
StL
LA
NYR
Tor
Bos
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