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Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 2:58 PM ET
A little greedy, but there are still some bad GMs out there.
- PhillySportsGuy



/targets Dale Tallon
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 2:58 PM ET
How many of these remaining March games do you expect the team to win? My guess is three.

Pit twice - split
Chi - lose
Dal - win
StL - lose
LA - OTL
NYR - OTL
Tor - win
Bos - lose

- Feanor


3-4-2
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
3-4-2
- jmatchett383


That seems pretty accurate.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:02 PM ET
I don't think that helps the team. Couts plays 20+ minutes on a lot of nights. He's already one of the best defensive forwards in hockey. He and Read are a great tandem together.

I don't think Vinny is immovable. Yes, they may need to pay part of his salary, but I believe he'd waive his NTC in order to go to a team where he can play center.

At this point, I would much rather have a 4th line guy like Malhotra signed for 5 years than Vinny.

- PhillySportsGuy


One thing is very true, by next season they have to have this sorted out, because they have Laughton coming up as well. Whether that means moving Vinny or trading SchennBros or Couturier something has to happen to resolve this issue.

But I am just talking about "for now".

Do you think L.Schenn, B.Schenn, Cousins, Hagg, and our 1st gets Edmonton 1st and Yakupov? That might not be a bad deal. Draft Ekblad. Could you imagine a future D-pairing of Morin-Ekblad?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:03 PM ET
/targets Dale Tallon
- Tomahawk


Kulikov could be your McDonagh…Kind of
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 12 @ 3:04 PM ET
One thing is very true, by next season they have to have this sorted out, because they have Laughton coming up as well. Whether that means moving Vinny or trading SchennBros or Couturier something has to happen to resolve this issue.

But I am just talking about "for now".

Do you think L.Schenn, B.Schenn, Cousins, Hagg, and our 1st gets Edmonton 1st and Yakupov? That might not be a bad deal. Draft Ekblad. Could you imagine a future D-pairing of Morin-Ekblad?

- SchennBros


Eww. No.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:05 PM ET
One thing is very true, by next season they have to have this sorted out, because they have Laughton coming up as well. Whether that means moving Vinny or trading SchennBros or Couturier something has to happen to resolve this issue.

But I am just talking about "for now".

Do you think L.Schenn, B.Schenn, Cousins, Hagg, and our 1st gets Edmonton 1st and Yakupov? That might not be a bad deal. Draft Ekblad. Could you imagine a future D-pairing of Morin-Ekblad?

- SchennBros


Not even close.

My top 9 next year (in no particular order) G,Hartnell,Jake,Simmer,Schenn,Raffl,Laughton,Couts,Read
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:05 PM ET
Kulikov could be your McDonagh…Kind of
- PhillySportsGuy



Now you're the one being greedy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:06 PM ET
One thing is very true, by next season they have to have this sorted out, because they have Laughton coming up as well. Whether that means moving Vinny or trading SchennBros or Couturier something has to happen to resolve this issue.

But I am just talking about "for now".

Do you think L.Schenn, B.Schenn, Cousins, Hagg, and our 1st gets Edmonton 1st and Yakupov? That might not be a bad deal. Draft Ekblad. Could you imagine a future D-pairing of Morin-Ekblad?

- SchennBros


Yes, that would get it done. Trading a mid-round 1st, a young center who's just starting to look like his 4th overall selection was correct, one of our best hopes at a good two-way top-4 defender, adding in a bottom-6 prospect and a young albeit underachieving (this year) defenseman would probably get us a young, promising defenseman with zero pro experience and Zherdev v2.0.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:06 PM ET
Eww. No.
- Streit2ThePoint


Does Gagner play wing. How about him instead. I just like the idea of a scoring winger with speed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Does Gagner play wing. How about him instead. I just like the idea of a scoring winger with speed.
- SchennBros


Unless it's one of Hall, Eberle, RnH (maybe), or J. Schultz, I have no interest in a "big" deal with Edmonton for any of their roster players.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Does Gagner play wing. How about him instead. I just like the idea of a scoring winger with speed.
- SchennBros



Gagner is slow as poop.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yes, that would get it done. Trading a mid-round 1st, a young center who's just starting to look like his 4th overall selection was correct, one of our best hopes at a good two-way top-4 defender, adding in a bottom-6 prospect and a young albeit underachieving (this year) defenseman would probably get us a young, promising defenseman with zero pro experience and Zherdev v2.0.
- jmatchett383


We need more Russians anyway. GO get Yakupov, Kulikov, and Club Nichushkin over the head and dress him in a Flyers uniform....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Now you're the one being greedy.
- Tomahawk


Well, McDonagh for Gomez was greedy. It was NYC. Greed is good!
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Gagner is slow as poop.
- Tomahawk


HA! so is Schenn and Couturier and Simmonds and Lecavalier and Hartnell and Hall.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Gagner is slow as poop.
- Tomahawk


I saw a tweet recently slamming Gagner, who apparently got beat in a puck race by 38 YO Ryan Smyth in a game.

I couldn't tell if it was fact or sarcasm, but it told me all I needed to know about Gagner's wheels.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
Unless it's one of Hall, Eberle, RnH (maybe), or J. Schultz, I have no interest in a "big" deal with Edmonton for any of their roster players.
- jmatchett383


Yea. Keep Edmonton's problems away from here. They're like an infectious disease.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
Gagner is slow as poop.
- Tomahawk


Man, that 2007 draft class was relatively weak compared to all of the ones around it. After Kane and JvR, a lot of "meh" in the first round. Nothing against McDonagh, Voracek, Alzner, and Couture, but it wasn't packed like the ones surrounding it. Gagner, to me, is kind of the example of that draft. Not really BAD (see some of the mid-90's drafts), but really not that great at all.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
Lind, we usually agree, but the guy is signed for the next 4 years at a 4.5million cap hit.

You need to get him going. Blame management for the signing, but with him here, have to do everything to try and make it work.

- flyer_nutter


I hear you, but it's about winning games. If he's not playing well enough, his ice time has to be reduced. Trying to get him going now is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. The thing is, Lecavalier and Downie are both playing miserable hockey right now, the lineup loses a lot of flexibility when you are getting nothing from either of them.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
I saw a tweet recently slamming Gagner, who apparently got beat in a puck race by 38 YO Ryan Smyth in a game.

I couldn't tell if it was fact or sarcasm, but it told me all I needed to know about Gagner's wheels.

- johndewar



He's all hands, no feet.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
3-4-2
- jmatchett383

Remember when they'd go winless in California before the break?

Good times.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
I saw a tweet recently slamming Gagner, who apparently got beat in a puck race by 38 YO Ryan Smyth in a game.

I couldn't tell if it was fact or sarcasm, but it told me all I needed to know about Gagner's wheels.

- johndewar


That whole top 6 is so soft.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
He's all hands, no feet.
- Tomahawk


Did you ever stop to think that every time you break in a car, your life is in your foot's hands?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
Remember when they'd go winless in California before the break?

Good times.

- Giroux_Is_God


I like you
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
I think thats the case, but I think theres outside hope he can turn things around with the right combination. Briere was like that. He looked out of place then found chemistry with random guys like Leino and Prospal.

I just don't see Vinny turning it around though. Briere was still getting points during those rough stretches. His lines were just a disaster defensively.

- PhillySportsGuy


It's possible he's cooked. Due to injuries/wear and tear. He's a beloved figure in TB, I found it strange that they would pull the plug on him. Perhaps they knew something Holmgren didn't.
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