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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:47 PM ET
I'm a big fan for this kind of maneuver. Gillis goes to just Team President. A President of Hockey Ops position is created for a well respected, and good hockey thinker to be brought in (Gretzky, Ferraro, Shannahan, Messier , Pat Quinn, one of those types) have a new GM or assistant GM so Gillis's smug condescending interviews don't need to happen anymore.

So, similiar to your line of thinking: Naslund as Assistant GM, Gillman as GM, Gillis to Just President and another person brought in for President of Hockey Ops

- 89_hockey


You guys need to get over the big names as GM/front office guys. Sure, Colorado seems to be doing well with Sakic/Roy, but this team need a legit, proven front office executive with a strong eye for talent to rebuild this team.


I'd take McNab easily over all those guys you listed. Gretzky has tried his hand as a coach and a GM at a high level and failed both times. Messier got passed over in NY for AV, his relationship with Vancouver sucks and if his name wasn't Messier he wouldn't be even close to getting a sniff from anyone as a head coach or GM. Ferraro works for TSN as a analyst, the guy has zero knowledge/experience as a GM a any level from what I'm aware of. Shanahan can just go (frank) himself.

89_hockey
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 4:48 PM ET
Mike Gillis excuses for teams performance.

A) Injuries

B) Salary Cap

On Team 1040

- VanHockeyGuy


Botchford on Gillis's history with blaming injuries:

MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Mar 14 @ 4:51 PM ET
Aquaman doesn't want to buy out Gillis and Torts. There's a simple solution.

1. Fire Torts. Fire Sullivan. Keep Gully as head coach.
2. Relinquish Gillis's duties as a GM. He stays on as President.
3. Gillman takes over as GM.
4. Gillman trades Kesler, Edler, Bieksa and buys out Booth.
5. Team finishes in bottom 3, wins the lottery and drafts McDavid.
6. Fire Gully and Gillman.
7. Hire Gretzky as President and let him choose his GM and Coach.


Done and done.

- therealagent

Hittin the Irish whiskey a few days early are we?!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
http://www.fortnucks.com/post/79483710904/dreamon


(frank)ing Booth
89_hockey
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
You guys need to get over the big names as GM/front office guys. Sure, Colorado seems to be doing well with Sakic/Roy, but this team need a legit, proven front office executive with a strong eye for talent to rebuild this team.
- Nucker101

I'm fine with a legit NHL GM being brought in. I would like to still see a Quinn type brought in as an advisory type role.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
What does Gilman know about hockey? If anything the team builder needs to have a forward thinking hockey brain. Gilman should stay a numbers nerd.
- DrChristianTroy


Took the words right out of my mouth.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:54 PM ET
Mike Gillis excuses for teams performance.

A) Injuries

B) Salary Cap

On Team 1040

- VanHockeyGuy

So f*cking predictable!!!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
Sounds like Gillis wants Naslund back in the organization.
- LeftCoaster

He's well versed on giving public addresses on the team choking. We need a guy like that, right now.

FFS!!
89_hockey
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 4:58 PM ET
You guys need to get over the big names as GM/front office guys. Sure, Colorado seems to be doing well with Sakic/Roy, but this team need a legit, proven front office executive with a strong eye for talent to rebuild this team.


I'd take McNab easily over all those guys you listed. Gretzky has tried his hand as a coach and a GM at a high level and failed both times. Messier got passed over in NY for AV, his relationship with Vancouver sucks and if his name wasn't Messier he wouldn't be even close to getting a sniff from anyone as a head coach or GM. Ferraro works for TSN as a analyst, the guy has zero knowledge/experience as a GM a any level from what I'm aware of. Shanahan can just go (frank) himself.

- Nucker101


Messier was a troll. Hell will freeze over and Booth will skate into it before he works for the Canucks.
Gretzky was the architect of the 2002 team and unfortunately his loyalty to that team cost us in 2006. He thinks the game well. Don't let him call the shots but his perspective would be nice. Ferraro thinks the game really well. He was approached by 2 other teams for management positions already but he won't move his family from Van. Shanahan would give us a good relationship with the league instead of always being franked over! That alone might be worth it. I would not want as as the GM but having them around to help the GM would be good.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 5:01 PM ET
You guys need to get over the big names as GM/front office guys. Sure, Colorado seems to be doing well with Sakic/Roy, but this team need a legit, proven front office executive with a strong eye for talent to rebuild this team.


I'd take McNab easily over all those guys you listed. Gretzky has tried his hand as a coach and a GM at a high level and failed both times. Messier got passed over in NY for AV, his relationship with Vancouver sucks and if his name wasn't Messier he wouldn't be even close to getting a sniff from anyone as a head coach or GM. Ferraro works for TSN as a analyst, the guy has zero knowledge/experience as a GM a any level from what I'm aware of. Shanahan can just go (frank) himself.

- Nucker101


Naslund is a smart guy. He'd be a good advisor. I think Ferraro would be as well. Really smart hockey mind. GM material - no. Not yet at least. He was interviewed by Scotty a couple nights ago and said he'd be very interested in a front office job with the Canucks. He apparently talked to teams in the past but wouldn't relocate.
89_hockey
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 5:03 PM ET
He's well versed on giving public addresses on the team choking. We need a guy like that, right now.

FFS!!

- Marwood


All we would need next is Sundin!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
But these are just generalizations/reputations of a guy like Ferraro having a smart hockey mind. Sure, I'd give him a look as a front office guy to learn the ropes for a a few years but he's not ready. Naslund wasn't exactly successful over in Sweden as a GM from what I read today so no tanks, again if he's willing to come on as one of the assistant front office type to learn and maybe(keyword) get a shot someday then sure.

But if Gillis goes I want a front office guy that's shown to have a good eye for talent in the NHL to build up some young assets for this team to build around.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:11 PM ET
What does Gilman know about hockey? If anything the team builder needs to have a forward thinking hockey brain. Gilman should stay a numbers nerd.
- DrChristianTroy

Ya I could agree with that, probably better candidates out there, who's the assistant GM in Dallas...I forget his name?
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
But these are just generalizations/reputations of a guy like Ferraro having a smart hockey mind. Sure, I'd give him a look as a front office guy to learn the ropes for a a few years but he's not ready. Naslund wasn't exactly successful over in Sweden as a GM from what I read today so no tanks, again if he's willing to come on as one of the assistant front office type to learn and maybe(keyword) get a shot someday then sure.

But if Gillis goes I want a front office guy that's shown to have a good eye for talent in the NHL to build up some young assets for this team to build around.

- Nucker101

Feaster?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:19 PM ET
David McNab ANA assistant GM is who I'd hire as GM if I were FA. Guy has a great eye for young talent(major influence in their drafting and developing which is one of the best systems in the league). Oh, and he's born in Vancouver so I'm sure he'd love to take over.
- Nucker101

Yes that'd be a good one too, I've heard his name mentioned before amongst conversations with friends.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:23 PM ET
He's well versed on giving public addresses on the team choking. We need a guy like that, right now.

FFS!!

- Marwood

That's whay I was getting at, I just forgot this at the end of my statement.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
All we would need next is Sundin!
- 89_hockey

No, but Messier is definitely another trigger word.
89_hockey
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.15.2012

Mar 14 @ 5:36 PM ET


We are saved! #boldmoves! This is part of 'the plan'
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
Jeff Paterson‏@patersonjeff·3 mins
#Canucks sign former Vernon Viper Mike Zalewski of RPI as college free-agent. 6'2" forward. 21-years-old

Never heard of him, time for research.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:39 PM ET


We are saved! #boldmoves! This is part of 'the plan'

- 89_hockey

That's some 'reset' with bite!
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:39 PM ET
Jeff Paterson‏@patersonjeff·3 mins
#Canucks sign former Vernon Viper Mike Zalewski of RPI as college free-agent. 6'2" forward. 21-years-old

Never heard of him, time for research.

- LeftCoaster

Have you been golfing lately?
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:40 PM ET
That's some 'reset' with bite!
- Marwood

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:42 PM ET
Have you been golfing lately?
- whipper334

Yup - was playing last week, weather is getting much much better now.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 5:43 PM ET
Yup - was playing last week, weather is getting much much better now.
- LeftCoaster

Nice, we're still a month away.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 14 @ 5:47 PM ET
Nice, we're still a month away.
- whipper334

I was in Calgary the past three days, starting to warm up nice there too.
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