Realistically - it'd be nice to get a person in here who's paid his dues, a long time guy like David McNab (Nuckers suggestion). He's spent the better part of 30+ years doing what he's doing as an NHL managerial type.

The last two guys we've had in here had next to nothing for GM experience, yes Gillis was a player agent for a long time and Nonuts worked as Burkes chief bottle washer five years before taking over as the GM at the age of 37. But I'm talkin LONG term knowledgeable guys here.
- LeftCoaster

Nonis had several years management experience. Most GM's should get Ast GM experience before stepping into the top position I think. It would have helped Gillis I believe. He'd still be the Dbag everyone hates though...

What makes people think that a ex player turned TV personality is going to come in as a rookie GM and do a better job than Gillis? Gillis already has 5/6 years experience over them. Im not sold on the "they cant do any worse" tactic at all guys.
- boonerbuck

Where is the assumption coming from that a Ferraro or Naslund type would be given the GM reigns? Every mention, aside from The Province trolling, suggests they'd be a hockey ops, assistant or advisor kind of roles.

Nonis had several years management experience. Most GM's should get Ast GM experience before stepping into the top position I think. It would have helped Gillis I believe. He'd still be the Dbag everyone hates though...



- boonerbuck

Nonuts only had five years experience before he wrongly became the Canucks GM, I don't consider that several years, but I do agree a guy should have a lot of experience as an assistant before he runs a club. Gillis now has more years as an NHL GM than Nonuts does...they're both terrible!

Nonis had several years management experience. Most GM's should get Ast GM experience before stepping into the top position I think. It would have helped Gillis I believe. He'd still be the Dbag everyone hates though...



- boonerbuck

Don't be putting words on others mouths.

Glen Healy
- Sheppy99

Goaltending Coach for the Back Up GT.

Realistically - it'd be nice to get a person in here who's paid his dues, a long time guy like David McNab (Nuckers suggestion). He's spent the better part of 30+ years doing what he's doing as an NHL managerial type.

The last two guys we've had in here had next to nothing for GM experience, yes Gillis was a player agent for a long time and Nonuts worked as Burkes chief bottle washer five years before taking over as the GM at the age of 37. But I'm talkin LONG term knowledgeable guys here.
- LeftCoaster

This

Ferraro just yaps for a living. Let him start off running an ECHL team if he wants to get into real management.

Realistically - it'd be nice to get a person in here who's paid his dues, a long time guy like David McNab (Nuckers suggestion). He's spent the better part of 30+ years doing what he's doing as an NHL managerial type.

The last two guys we've had in here had next to nothing for GM experience, yes Gillis was a player agent for a long time and Nonuts worked as Burkes chief bottle washer five years before taking over as the GM at the age of 37. But I'm talkin LONG term knowledgeable guys here.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. I was intrigued by the move CBJ made with Kekalainen, as he was the Assistant GM and Director of Amateur Scouting at STL for some years, where he helped draft much of the core of the team including Pietrangelo, Oshie, Berglund, Perron, and Backes.

Jim Nill was Assistant GM for DET until he was hired as Dallas GM.

McNab might fit a similar profile with many more years worth of experience. Still, you do wonder why he was never made GM in all those years.

Agreed. I was intrigued by the move CBJ made with Kekalainen, as he was the Assistant GM and Director of Amateur Scouting at STL for some years, where he helped draft much of the core of the team including Pietrangelo, Oshie, Berglund, Perron, and Backes.

Jim Nill was Assistant GM for DET until he was hired as Dallas GM.

McNab might fit a similar profile with many more years worth of experience. Still, you do wonder why he was never made GM in all those years.
- AlexF

Maybe he never wanted it? Gravy job, out of the limelight. Not a lot of job security being a GM; given the short shelf life most of them have.

Agreed. I was intrigued by the move CBJ made with Kekalainen, as he was the Assistant GM and Director of Amateur Scouting at STL for some years, where he helped draft much of the core of the team including Pietrangelo, Oshie, Berglund, Perron, and Backes.

Jim Nill was Assistant GM for DET until he was hired as Dallas GM.

McNab might fit a similar profile with many more years worth of experience. Still, you do wonder why he was never made GM in all those years.
- AlexF

McNab is listed as the Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations.

http://ducks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=44934

Melton was a beast a couple of years ago and is still young. Rich getting richer if he signs.
- Nucker101

Yup... I hope they get it done! Had my doubts going into free agency 'cause I assumed his market would be a feeding frenzy of bidding war action & we have limited space with the extensions that need to be factored in. If he's healthy & willing to bet on himself as Michael Bennett did last year, what a steal of a signing it'd be at this point in free agency.

Higgins needs three points to overtake Hank as our leading scorer, OMG no wonder we're in trouble here

Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Review: Third Period Comeback Not Enough, Naslund?
The Vancouver Canucks put out a good effort but their playoff hopes dimmed a little more after they dropped a 4-3 decision to the Washington Capitals on Friday night.
- Carol Schram

No thank you to Naslund. His "we choked" speech is still ringing in my ears plus he always looked like he was going to burst into tears everytime there was a microphone in his face. Stay in Sweden while reading the bible to your children, please.

What makes people think that a ex player turned TV personality is going to come in as a rookie GM and do a better job than Gillis? Gillis already has 5/6 years experience over them. Im not sold on the "they cant do any worse" tactic at all guys.
- boonerbuck

As bad as things have been lately, they could still be a whole lot worse...

Agreed. I was intrigued by the move CBJ made with Kekalainen, as he was the Assistant GM and Director of Amateur Scouting at STL for some years, where he helped draft much of the core of the team including Pietrangelo, Oshie, Berglund, Perron, and Backes.

Jim Nill was Assistant GM for DET until he was hired as Dallas GM.

McNab might fit a similar profile with many more years worth of experience. Still, you do wonder why he was never made GM in all those years.
- AlexF

Even the Canucks management development system sucks!

Tambellini, McPhee, Nonis

Even the Canucks management development system sucks!

Tambellini, McPhee, Nonis
- 1970vintage

Didn't they all work under Burke?

No thank you to Naslund. His "we choked" speech is still ringing in my ears plus he always looked like he was going to burst into tears everytime there was a microphone in his face. Stay in Sweden while reading the bible to your children, please.
- Marwood

I tend to think anyone hired as GM would fail due to the lack of freedom to make the moves necessary to turn things around. Getting rid of Torts however, would be a better first step, and hiring a coach who's willing to play a puck possession game instead of kitty-bar-the-door, jump-in-front-of-every-shot, collapse-in-front-of-the-goalie hockey would help tremendously.

Didn't they all work under Burke?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Come on, I'm being overly critical, work with me on this.

I tend to think anyone hired as GM would fail due to the lack of freedom to make the moves necessary to turn things around. Getting rid of Torts however, would be a better first step, and hiring a coach who's willing to play a puck possession game instead of kitty-bar-the-door, jump-in-front-of-every-shot, collapse-in-front-of-the-goalie hockey would help tremendously.
- DariusKnight

I didn't watch the game last night, but outshooting your opponent 41-21 doesn't sound at all like what you are suggesting.

Before the season started the misconception was that Tortarella was a "defensive" coach, but we saw early on that he was an aggressive on the forecheck, "puck retrieval" coach who preached good defensive play, i.e. you have to bust your ass to get back if you are going to play so aggressive on the forecheck.

EDIT - Maybe it really is the players

I tend to think anyone hired as GM would fail due to the lack of freedom to make the moves necessary to turn things around. Getting rid of Torts however, would be a better first step, and hiring a coach who's willing to play a puck possession game instead of kitty-bar-the-door, jump-in-front-of-every-shot, collapse-in-front-of-the-goalie hockey would help tremendously.
- DariusKnight

If FA really is as hands-on as some have reported I completely agree, no GM would be free to run the team as they saw fit.

Come on, I'm being overly critical, work with me on this.
- 1970vintage

I didn't watch the game last night, but outshooting your opponent 41-21 doesn't sound at all like what you are suggesting.

Before the season started the misconception was that Tortarella was a "defensive" coach, but we saw early on that he was an aggressive on the forecheck, "puck retrieval" coach who preached good defensive play, i.e. you have to bust your ass to get back if you are going to play so aggressive on the forecheck.

EDIT - Maybe it really is the players
- 1970vintage

Yet how is that working out? We don't have the players that can absorb that kind of punishment (or the amount of ice-time) that his style demands and still be successful and if Gillis (or FA) isn't going to do anything to address this, then getting a coach who is a better fit for the makeup of this team would be a better option.

If FA really is as hands-on as some have reported I completely agree, no GM would be free to run the team as they saw fit.
- AlexF

Very true, they could have the Muppets as a management team.

Yet how is that working out? We don't have the players that can absorb that kind of punishment (or the amount of ice-time) that his style demands and still be successful and if Gillis (or FA) isn't going to do anything to address this, then getting a coach who is a better fit for the makeup of this team would be a better option.
- DariusKnight

We need a coach who has coached in the western conf. before.

We need a coach who has coached in the western conf. before.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Pat Quinn, Marc Crawford or Ron Wilson.