Nope!

Expect 2 more useless points that Tank Nation doesn't want.

Vancouver will inch towards the 8th playoff spot only to fall short and end up with the worst possible draft pick/odds. Vancouver's current situation is all too familiar and unfortunately it never ends well.
- As_I_See_It

If the Canucks get close they will make it, Kesler will be back and maybe D. Sedin.
Option 1. Tank Tank Tank shelf Kesler, Hank, & Danny
Option 2. Make the playoffs and last 1 game longer than the Leafs.

I'm good with both options

I don't understand this tank nation business. Tank nation is what the Oilers did and where are they now, 8 years and counting with no end in sight. Do you guys really want 5 years of bottom dwelling. Being the laughing stock of the league. This draft is weak, a top 5 pick this year and unless a top two next year pretty much won't mean anything in rebuilding this team.
- StevenStiller

No one is saying tank for 5 yrs, we want a 10 game tank.

I don't understand this tank nation business. Tank nation is what the Oilers did and where are they now, 8 years and counting with no end in sight. Do you guys really want 5 years of bottom dwelling. Being the laughing stock of the league. This draft is weak, a top 5 pick this year and unless a top two next year pretty much won't mean anything in rebuilding this team.
- StevenStiller

Tell that to Chicago and Pittsburgh.

It's a crap shoot - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Early picks don't translate into a great team. You need to develop players properly.

I'd take 5 years of futility to get where the Hawks are right now.

If the Canucks get close they will make it, Kesler will be back and maybe D. Sedin.
Option 1. Tank Tank Tank shelf Kesler, Hank, & Danny
Option 2. Make the playoffs and last 1 game longer than the Leafs.

I'm good with both options
- A_SteamingLombardi

I really can't see them making the playoffs at this point unless they win out.

They're at 72 points, 3 behind both Dallas and Phoenix.

Dallas has 3 games in hand and Phoenix has 2.

Even Winnipeg is only 1 point behind them with 1 game in hand.

Is it possible? Sure. It is plausible, I sincerely doubt it.

I really can't see them making the playoffs at this point unless they win out.

They're at 72 points, 3 behind both Dallas and Phoenix.

Dallas has 3 games in hand and Phoenix has 2.

Even Winnipeg is only 1 point behind them with 1 game in hand.

Is it possible? Sure. It is plausible, I sincerely doubt it.
- Canuckleafer

So option 1 it is

So option 1 it is
- A_SteamingLombardi

As a Leaf's fan I can tell you years 2-5 are actually quite easy to deal with. The first one and the last 3 kinda sting.

I don't understand this tank nation business. Tank nation is what the Oilers did and where are they now, 8 years and counting with no end in sight. Do you guys really want 5 years of bottom dwelling. Being the laughing stock of the league. This draft is weak, a top 5 pick this year and unless a top two next year pretty much won't mean anything in rebuilding this team.
- StevenStiller

#tanknation is not rebuild nation. I don't think the Canucks can make the playoffs this year they still have games vs the ducks (2), la, avs, wild, rangers... I'd like to make the playoffs but I just don't see it happening.

So I am in favour of the canucks getting the best draft pick this year and retooling (trading a couple vets) and the goal next year is playoffs. They had some bad injuries this year to Sedins and burrows, who are normally healthy, and with some youth infused into the line-up who knows where they could be. I don't see the Canucks going for a full on 3 1st over picks type tank. Its about getting a better piece to help them in the future this year not about nuking the core and trying to be the worst....

#tanknation is not rebuild nation. I don't think the Canucks can make the playoffs this year they still have games vs the ducks (2), la, avs, wild, rangers... I'd like to make the playoffs but I just don't see it happening.

So I am in favour of the canucks getting the best draft pick this year and retooling (trading a couple vets) and the goal next year is playoffs. They had some bad injuries this year to Sedins and burrows, who are normally healthy, and with some youth infused into the line-up who knows where they could be. I don't see the Canucks going for a full on 3 1st over picks type tank. Its about getting a better piece to help them in the future this year not about nuking the core and trying to be the worst....
- 89_hockey

The coaches and players will never ever try to do anything less than win, management on the other hand, can choose to rest our best players and for the coach to ice a less than stellar team.

Do you really see that much benefit from moving up a couple spots in the draft? How many 5th overall picks have transformed a team from where the Canucks are now to where they want to be?

I'd rather make the playoffs every year and pick 15th.
- 1970vintage

Meh, I'd like a 6th pick over a 9th or 10th in this draft. You're not likely getting a franchise player but it could be a future core player(higher chance that it is compared to a 9th or 10th pick). Playoffs aren't happening. Tank on!

NHL also has a lottery this year, the lower the Canucks will finish helps their chances of potentially winning.

I'd still like to see the young players do well like Jensen or Kassian.

I don't understand this tank nation business. Tank nation is what the Oilers did and where are they now, 8 years and counting with no end in sight. Do you guys really want 5 years of bottom dwelling. Being the laughing stock of the league. This draft is weak, a top 5 pick this year and unless a top two next year pretty much won't mean anything in rebuilding this team.
- StevenStiller

The Oilers are a special bunch, what they have achieved is impossible to recreate.

I can't think of any other team that has had so many top draft picks and still can't even get a sniff of the PO's.....Maybe Florida, but even they have been close and haven't had consecutive #1's

I really can't see them making the playoffs at this point unless they win out.

They're at 72 points, 3 behind both Dallas and Phoenix.

Dallas has 3 games in hand and Phoenix has 2.

Even Winnipeg is only 1 point behind them with 1 game in hand.

Is it possible? Sure. It is plausible, I sincerely doubt it.
- Canuckleafer

Exactly. There's too many 3 point games these days and only a dozen games left with a weak forward group and an inexperienced goalie.

Do you really see that much benefit from moving up a couple spots in the draft? How many 5th overall picks have transformed a team from where the Canucks are now to where they want to be?

I'd rather make the playoffs every year and pick 15th.
- 1970vintage

You're totally right, let's take a look at the 5th Overall picks over the last 10 years:

2003: Vanek
2004: Wheeler
2005: Price
2006: Kessel
2007: Alzner (Gagner 6th, Voracek 7th, Couture 9th)
2008: L. Schenn
2009: B.Schenn
2010: Niederreiter
2011: Strome
2012: Rielly
2013: Lindholm

I think a lot of us would agree that we'd be happy with any of those guys (maybe with the exception of L.Schenn) on an ELC on our team right now.

The Oilers are a special bunch, what they have achieved is impossible to recreate.

I can't think of any other team that has had so many top draft picks and still can't even get a sniff of the PO's.....Maybe Florida, but even they have been close and haven't had consecutive #1's
- moondawg

I agree, plus you have to face reality. It's been hard for them to attract UFA's without overpaying since it's not a desirable city to live in compared to other cities. It's a tough team to take over in a rebuild. They also didn't have as many quality/valuable veteran players the Canucks currently do.

I really can't see them making the playoffs at this point unless they win out.

They're at 72 points, 3 behind both Dallas and Phoenix.

Dallas has 3 games in hand and Phoenix has 2.

Even Winnipeg is only 1 point behind them with 1 game in hand.

Is it possible? Sure. It is plausible, I sincerely doubt it.
- Canuckleafer

If Tampa wins tonight the Leafs go to 7th in the Conference, if the Canucks win our draft position gets worse....what to do?

You're totally right, let's take a look at the 5th Overall picks over the last 10 years:

2003: Vanek
2004: Wheeler
2005: Price
2006: Kessel
2007: Alzner (Gagner 6th, Voracek 7th, Couture 9th)
2008: L. Schenn
2009: B.Schenn
2010: Niederreiter
2011: Strome
2012: Rielly
2013: Lindholm

I think a lot of us would agree that we'd be happy with any of those guys (maybe with the exception of L.Schenn) on an ELC on our team right now.
- Chest Rockwell

Yeah, a lot of those guys are core player or future core players. Outside of L.Schenn and Alzner.

The Oilers are a special bunch, what they have achieved is impossible to recreate.

I can't think of any other team that has had so many top draft picks and still can't even get a sniff of the PO's.....Maybe Florida, but even they have been close and haven't had consecutive #1's
- moondawg

Ottawa, Quebec and Pittsburgh...

#tanknation is not rebuild nation. I don't think the Canucks can make the playoffs this year they still have games vs the ducks (2), la, avs, wild, rangers... I'd like to make the playoffs but I just don't see it happening.

So I am in favour of the canucks getting the best draft pick this year and retooling (trading a couple vets) and the goal next year is playoffs. They had some bad injuries this year to Sedins and burrows, who are normally healthy, and with some youth infused into the line-up who knows where they could be. I don't see the Canucks going for a full on 3 1st over picks type tank. Its about getting a better piece to help them in the future this year not about nuking the core and trying to be the worst....
- 89_hockey

After the first 2 or 3 picks it really become a crap shoot. Why would you want your team to quit for the final 10 games of the year so that they can draft 8th, or 6th instead of 10th or 12th?

If I were the owner of a team and a player quit because the team wasn't doing well I'd tell the GM to trade that player ASAP, I'm not interested in having losers on my team.

If Tampa wins tonight the Leafs go to 7th in the Conference, if the Canucks win our draft position gets worse....what to do?


- LeftCoaster

Who cares about the Leafs? They're making the playoffs unlike us. Time to lose for this team!

Yeah, a lot of those guys are core player or future core players. Outside of L.Schenn and Alzner.
- Nucker101

Not a great idea to take a "defensive minded" defenceman in the top ten!

Meh, I'd like a 6th pick over a 9th or 10th in this draft. You're not likely getting a franchise player but it could be a future core player(higher chance that it is compared to a 9th or 10th pick). Playoffs aren't happening. Tank on!

NHL also has a lottery this year, the lower the Canucks will finish helps their chances of potentially winning.

I'd still like to see the young players do well like Jensen or Kassian.
- Nucker101

In 2009 the Stars selected Scott Glennie 8th overall, the Rangers got Chris Kreider at 19th. I don't think moving up 3 or 4 spots is going to make that much difference in the player selection. It will, however, make a lot of difference in the mindset of the players on the team.

Who cares about the Leafs? They're making the playoffs unlike us. Time to lose for this team!
- Nucker101

He's a Leaf and Canuck fan....please follow along.

Let's be honest, Jensen won't be able to do this every night. But it's very encouraging to see a rookie play and contribute to the team for once, I honestly can't remember one other than Cody Hodgson for a lot of years.
- LeftCoaster

I was quite enthusiastic about Grabner in his last few games in a Canuck jersey. But yeah, it's been a while.

Not a great idea to take a "defensive minded" defenceman in the top ten!
- LeftCoaster

Agreed!

In 2009 the Stars selected Scott Glennie 8th overall, the Rangers got Chris Kreider at 19th. I don't think moving up 3 or 4 spots is going to make that much difference in the player selection. It will, however, make a lot of difference in the mindset of the players on the team.
- 1970vintage

You're wrong. That is all.

He's a Leaf and Canuck fan....please follow along.
- LeftCoaster

No.