That would depend on what you're looking for. If you want a stay home physical defensman to play on the PK. You choose Grossmann. If you want more of an all around player, who can chip in offense, then Meszaros. If he can get healthy and get his physical edge back, some team is going to get a solid defenseman next Season.
- MJL

Theoretically the Flyers have a younger, better Grossmann in L. Schenn. I don't like redundancy on the back end. I think if Grossmann was moved instead of Meszaros, the blueline would have more versatility. I understand why Meszaros was traded, and don't disagree with the premise.

it would be a huge boost. they've basically played in spite of him all year.
- hammarby31

FTFY

When you watch how he is capable of playing, and how he makes the Flyers defense better. I wonder why it's said he's not worth 5M a year?
- MJL

he is going to get it and I hope he stays here

sharks signed a kid for 1 game today through the make a wish foundation
let him practice with the team and skate in warm ups
- 2Real

Ugh, Why can't the Flyers ever find guys like that. They only like big defenseman

His best game since the opening weeks of the season. I even saw him helping a little defensively.
- PhillySportsGuy

He's taking the body more, splitting the D on breakaways...he just seems to have found another gear lately, and that's a good thing for the team.

Theoretically the Flyers have a younger, better Grossmann in L. Schenn. I don't like redundancy on the back end. I think if Grossmann was moved instead of Meszaros, the blueline would have more versatility. I understand why Meszaros was traded, and don't disagree with the premise.
- PLindbergh31

MacDonald is a clear upgrade over Meszaros. Meszaros just wasn't strong enough defensively. If the Flyers can add another top defenseman in the off season, I would be okay with moving Grossmann.

No, I was referring to Mez.

I'm squarely on "Team Kimmo" for next year. And I like that AMac has given them not only one competent blue liner, but two of them, because I think he makes Luke Schenn better.
- johndewar

ohh okay. yeah. no. mez isnt worth 4. total agreement

MacDonald is a clear upgrade over Meszaros. Meszaros just wasn't strong enough defensively. If the Flyers can add another top defenseman in the off season, I would be okay with moving Grossmann.
- MJL

Agreed, and I'm probably one of those in the minority that likes Grossmann.

it would be a huge boost. they've basically played without him all year.
- hammarby31

Yup. We all know what he can do when healthy, and it looks like he's starting to feel better.

He's taking the body more, splitting the D on breakaways...he just seems to have found another gear lately, and that's a good thing for the team.
- wolfhounds

Yeah. He's been hovering around the net more too. I would still like to see him help a little more defensively. He's too eager to get out on the break. He looks like Zherdev sometimes.

His breakaway tonight was great though. He circled back into the defensive zone to make himself available. He then skated hard down the middle and took a great pass from MacDonald. Thats what I love to see.

- Crimsoninja

can the captain pull off a miracle? HE SCOOOOOOOORES!

Agreed, and I'm probably one of those in the minority that likes Grossmann.
- johndewar

I just don't like Grossmann and Streit together.

Ugh, Why can't the Flyers ever find guys like that. They only like big defenseman
- PhillySportsGuy

awesome story the kid was literally in tears during the line ups

awesome story the kid was literally in tears during the line ups
- 2Real

I love when teams do that. If I was an athlete, I would love to do stuff like that.

MacDonald is a clear upgrade over Meszaros. Meszaros just wasn't strong enough defensively. If the Flyers can add another top defenseman in the off season, I would be okay with moving Grossmann.
- MJL

I agree that MacDonald is an upgrade over Meszaros, but would have been an equally if not bigger upgrade to Grossmann. Grossmann is a physical player, but his lack of mobility impedes his effectiveness. He's forced to take penalties when players go around him, as well as not having much offensive ability. I don't dislike Grossmann at all, guy gives it his all every shift. Can't ask for more than that. He's just a somewhat limited player.

FTFY
- PhillySportsGuy

that too, i suppose. it's too bad the back injury derailed him, but it matters not right now, as long as he's getting healthier and more confident in time for when he's needed most.

can the captain pull off a mirage? HE SCOOOOOOOORES!
- 2Real

Hard to chose between this and his backhand top shelf vs CBJ and 100th goal

I agree that MacDonald is an upgrade over Meszaros, but would have been an equally if not bigger upgrade to Grossmann. Grossmann is a physical player, but his lack of mobility impedes his effectiveness. He's forced to take penalties when players go around him, as well as not having much offensive ability. I don't dislike Grossmann at all, guy gives it his all every shift. Can't ask for more than that. He's just a somewhat limited player.
- PLindbergh31

He's a terrific shot blocker. Something the Flyers desperately need.

I agree that MacDonald is an upgrade over Meszaros, but would have been an equally if not bigger upgrade to Grossmann. Grossmann is a physical player, but his lack of mobility impedes his effectiveness. He's forced to take penalties when players go around him, as well as not having much offensive ability. I don't dislike Grossmann at all, guy gives it his all every shift. Can't ask for more than that. He's just a somewhat limited player.
- PLindbergh31

Grossmann was fine tonight against a very good team. I'd rather have Grossmann then Meszaros. Defense is going to be a key to this team. Grossmann plays some hard minutes, and is a key contributor to the PK. Think about where this team would be without a strong PK with all the penalties it takes? Used properly, with support, he is fine. Meszaros is just too loose in his own end. I hope he's successful in the future and gets his full game back. But the Flyers made the right move in trading him.

Hard to chose between this and his backhand top shelf vs CBJ and 100th goal
- FlyersFirst

dunno hard choice

Hard to chose between this and his backhand top shelf vs CBJ and 100th goal
- FlyersFirst

That shot against CBJ was just absurd.

He's a terrific shot blocker. Something the Flyers desperately need.
- KGBflyers10

Yes. It may have come down to Meszaros simply being the easier player to move. Teams may not have liked the remainder of Grossmann's contract, while Meszaros could be strictly a rental. Not to mention the Flyers are picking up half of Mesz's cap hit.

Yes. It may have come down to Meszaros simply being the easier player to move. Teams may not have liked the remainder of Grossmann's contract, while Meszaros could be strictly a rental. Not to mention the Flyers are picking up half of Mesz's cap hit.
- PLindbergh31

The Flyers picked up $410K of what was left on Meszaros deal this Season.

So true.....this team doesn't win this game last year....team is maturing and learning how to win....

- landros 2

This...

My take earlier this year was they didn't need big changes, just patience as they had new faces to blend into the lineup along with young, developing players that needed to find that chemistry and confidence to get them to the next level. The team had no cohesiveness and no identity.

You can see how they have forged forward in their progress and are establishing themselves as a rising force to be reckoned with, due in no small part to one Claude Giroux. A young captain who was maligned by many earlier in the season after the slow start, a man who who was told he wasn't good enough for Team Canada, a man who is silencing all doubters with his exceptional display of heart, grit, talent and determination.

At 1-7 who goes out on this kind of limb?




Claude motherfranking Giroux does, bytch!


Being able to back up that kind of statement is quite impressive for a young captain. G is on the road to proving himself to be a worthy leader and has a good supporting cast of emergent young players to fight with him in the pursuit of the ultimate prize. It may not happen this year, but from what I see, it should happen at least once during the G era.