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wilsonecho91
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Mar 19 @ 8:40 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


almost as if Raffl is coming over to provide solace or advice to Toews.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 19 @ 8:41 PM ET
Reimer

Also just saw the replay on that Killorn/Ranger hit. Shouldn't be suspended IMO. Ranger turned into the boards at the last second. Players need to protect themselves.

- Pixote Andolini


Yea I agree. Didn't extend his arms. I can def see how Killorn was thinking he was just going to pin him against the boards. And then wham slit second change by ranger
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 19 @ 8:41 PM ET
What team do you guys think will sign Christian Folin?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:42 PM ET
wtf i said this weeks ago
- Crimsoninja


Uh huh
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
Uh huh
- ob18

you will pay 4 this
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
What team do you guys think will sign Christian Folin?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


are these guys allowed to have agents at this point? I understand that in NCAA football (maybe basketball, I don't know, it's all not-hockey), you can't technically have an agent until you're drafted? I may be confused, but I heard something to the effect on ESPN radio. And since these guys aren't drafted, but rather signed right out of college, how does it work?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
That's what happens when you take a player like MacDonald, overextend his minutes and play him in a role he's not best suited for. He becomes a sacrificial lamb. Now put him the right situation, with support, and all of a sudden he looks like a hell of a player. That's life as an NHL defenseman.
- MJL

I agree, guy has played really well since he arrived. I hope the Flyers can resign him for a good price. I really think L.Schenn and him are a great pairing, they seem to play well with each other
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
What team do you guys think will sign Christian Folin?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


If his team makes the Frozen Four, we need to get together and make sure he has the best time ever in this city.
PhillySportsGuy
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Mar 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
are these guys allowed to have agents at this point? I understand that in NCAA football (maybe basketball, I don't know, it's all not-hockey), you can't technically have an agent until you're drafted? I may be confused, but I heard something to the effect on ESPN radio. And since these guys aren't drafted, but rather signed right out of college, how does it work?
- wilsonecho91


"advisors"

Edit: Once they sign with an agent or agree to a contract with a team, they can no longer play NCAA hockey.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
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Mar 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
are these guys allowed to have agents at this point? I understand that in NCAA football (maybe basketball, I don't know, it's all not-hockey), you can't technically have an agent until you're drafted? I may be confused, but I heard something to the effect on ESPN radio. And since these guys aren't drafted, but rather signed right out of college, how does it work?
- wilsonecho91


Im pretty sure these guys have agents. And these NCAA players play in college, go undrafted, finish their degree, and then sign with whatever team they want effectively avoiding the draft.

If they get drafted its a different story but it can also end in them being free agents. ie Justin Schultz, Blake Wheeler
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
you will pay 4 this
- Crimsoninja


I was agreeing with you
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:47 PM ET

- Winning


He saw... The Beard.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
If his team makes the Frozen Four, we need to get together and make sure he has the best time ever in this city.
- PhillySportsGuy


If we still had Richards and Carter we could get them to take him to a party and get him hammered.... I guess its on us
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
"advisors"

Edit: Once they sign with an agent or agree to a contract with a team, they can no longer play NCAA hockey.

- PhillySportsGuy


Interesting. I didnt know that.
PhillySportsGuy
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Mar 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
If we still had Richards and Carter we could get them to take him to a party and get him hammered.... I guess its on us
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


It needs to be his most memorable experience ever.
wilsonecho91
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Mar 19 @ 8:50 PM ET
"advisors"

Edit: Once they sign with an agent or agree to a contract with a team, they can no longer play NCAA hockey.

- PhillySportsGuy


if that's the case, then how does this all go down so fast, i.e. a guy getting signed really quickly after his NCAA season ends? Or is it all just a façade and they have agents and the teams are sending fancy meats and jewels?
wilsonecho91
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Mar 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
Im pretty sure these guys have agents. And these NCAA players play in college, go undrafted, finish their degree, and then sign with whatever team they want effectively avoiding the draft.

If they get drafted its a different story but it can also end in them being free agents. ie Justin Schultz, Blake Wheeler

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


right, but what if they don't finish their degree? Do they not have agents helping them decide which team to sign with?
wilsonecho91
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Mar 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
He saw... The Beard.
- FlyersSteve118


I don't want to look, I don't want to look, I looked!
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
It needs to be his most memorable experience ever.
- PhillySportsGuy


Orgy at Pannacio's?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
I think they're physically slow man for man. They get into trouble when they don't move their feet more than other teams.

They have a significant amount of guys who win board battles, which offsets the speed a little bit.

They also have Couturier who plays faster than he really is because of thinks one step ahead.

- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think overall that they're slow in any way. They simply play slow at times. The fastest skater in the League isn't very fast when he's not moving his feet.
PhillySportsGuy
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Mar 19 @ 8:52 PM ET
Interesting. I didnt know that.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Baseball has a rule where players are drafted out of high school then will either decide to take a certain amount or attend college. If they attend college, they are no longer property of the team who drafted them and they must attend 3 or 4 years of college (I forget).

Anyway, players need advice during negotiations with a team when they're drafted out of high school. Therefore, they use agents as "advisors". If they sign with the team, they're agents. If they decide to attend college, they are just advisors.

Its one of those things where the NCAA allows it because these kids need access to people who know what they're doing. Not everyone has some uncle who is an attorney.
PhillySportsGuy
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Mar 19 @ 8:52 PM ET
Orgy at Pannacio's?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Certainly would be memorable
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:53 PM ET
right, but what if they don't finish their degree? Do they not have agents helping them decide which team to sign with?
- wilsonecho91


Like PSG said I think they have "advisors" which are pretty much agents
wilsonecho91
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Mar 19 @ 8:54 PM ET
Baseball has a rule where players are drafted out of high school then will either decide to take a certain amount or attend college. If they attend college, they are no longer property of the team who drafted them and they must attend 3 or 4 years of college (I forget).

Anyway, players need advice during negotiations with a team when they're drafted out of high school. Therefore, they use agents as "advisors". If they sign with the team, they're agents. If they decide to attend college, they are just advisors.

Its one of those things where the NCAA allows it because these kids need access to people who know what they're doing. Not everyone has some uncle who is an attorney.

- PhillySportsGuy


when hammarby's kid gets drafted, he will and then i'll abscond with all the money while selling you all down the river.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 19 @ 8:54 PM ET
Certainly would be memorable
- PhillySportsGuy


But would it be a good memory or something your telling a psychiatrist 20 years later while clutching a pillow and crying?
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