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FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Then Kimmo may need to offer a discount or Schenn or Grossmann could be gone. I'm guessing Grossmann because of age and salary.

There is an outside chance Alt may be ready to assume a top 6 role. He's 23 and should be knocking on the door soon.

- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah unless the cap moves over the 68mil that they are saying it will be than we pretty much have to trade one of grossman or schenn in order to fit under the cap. If it clears 70 mil they can clear the cap ceiling without clearing salary as long as timonen is willing to sign for whatever Pronger's LTIR allowance will be.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
No, he can play another 9 games this Season, before his ELC kicks in to my knowledge.
- MJL

So it's max 9 every year? Some say it's 9 collectively; you can do 3 one year then the next year, 6 or any other combo that adds up to 9 eventually.

This is unclear to me and a lot of others, it seems.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
No, he can play another 9 games this Season, before his ELC kicks in to my knowledge.
- MJL


It may not even matter Oshawa is the #1 seed in the Eastern half of the OHL & should really have no issue making it to at least round 2.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
Then Kimmo may need to offer a discount or Schenn or Grossmann could be gone. I'm guessing Grossmann because of age and salary.

There is an outside chance Alt may be ready to assume a top 6 role. He's 23 and should be knocking on the door soon.

- PhillySportsGuy

People forget about him. I think he could be a decent player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Yes, but rookies that came up during the lockout shortened year last year only get 5. Laughton was one of them.
- Giroux_Is_God


It was prorated to 5 that year because it was a 48 game Season. It's not 9 total. It's 9 a year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
So it's max 9 every year? Some say it's 9 collectively; you can do 3 one year then the next year, 6 or any other combo that adds up to 9 eventually.

This is unclear to me and a lot of others, it seems.

- Giroux_Is_God


This was hashed out before. Pretty clear that it's 9 a year.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
It was prorated to 5 that year because it was a 48 game Season. It's not 9 total. It's 9 a year.
- MJL

Yes I know this

This was hashed out before. Pretty clear that it's 9 a year.
- MJL


Well then...

Must have missed it then. Thanks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
Yeah unless the cap moves over the 68mil that they are saying it will be than we pretty much have to trade one of grossman or schenn in order to fit under the cap. If it clears 70 mil they can clear the cap ceiling without clearing salary as long as timonen is willing to sign for whatever Pronger's LTIR allowance will be.
- FlyersSteve118


They won't have to trade one of them to get under the Cap. They might if they want to go after a top free agent though.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
Then Kimmo may need to offer a discount or Schenn or Grossmann could be gone. I'm guessing Grossmann because of age and salary.

There is an outside chance Alt may be ready to assume a top 6 role. He's 23 and should be knocking on the door soon.

- PhillySportsGuy

I could see them signing Kimmo for 4million and having a handshake agreement to pay him say 250k per year to do a bit of scouting in Finland over the next 10 years or so
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
It may not even matter Oshawa is the #1 seed in the Eastern half of the OHL & should really have no issue making it to at least round 2.
- ob18


When are the OHL playoffs over?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
I could see them signing Kimmo for 4million and having a handshake agreement to pay him say 250k per year to do a bit of scouting in Finland over the next 10 years or so
- BiggE


Isn't Timonen already part owner of a European team?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
When are the OHL playoffs over?
- MJL


Depends on how far they go, if they go all the way to the Memorial Cup that ends on Memorial Day weekend if they make that title game.

Right now he's playing in game 2 of his round 1 series today.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
People forget about him. I think he could be a decent player.
- Giroux_Is_God


I know. He should be entering a period where its make or break. He's not a kid anymore. He will be 23 at the beginning of next season.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
Isn't Timonen already part owner of a European team?
- MJL

Yes in Finland
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
I could see them signing Kimmo for 4million and having a handshake agreement to pay him say 250k per year to do a bit of scouting in Finland over the next 10 years or so
- BiggE


That'd be interesting.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
They won't have to trade one of them to get under the Cap. They might if they want to go after a top free agent though.
- MJL


I was saying in order to sign both MacDonald and Timonen next year they would.

(And B. Schenn, 2 fourth liners, a backup goalie and gustafsson or other #7 Dman.)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
Penguins have lost which means Malkin needs to start punching people.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
Downie day to day, McGinn recalled

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=710725
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
Downie day to day, McGinn recalled

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=710725

- Giroux_Is_God


Seems strange to call a guy up if Downie is only day to day. Flyers aren't exactly a pillar of honest injury reporting though.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
I was saying in order to sign both MacDonald and Timonen next year they would.

(And B. Schenn, 2 fourth liners, a backup goalie and gustafsson or other #7 Dman.)

- FlyersSteve118

at 68M it is very tight until pronger goes on LTIR
Giroux_Is_God
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Mar 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Penguins have lost which means Malkin needs to start punching people.
- PhillySportsGuy

I was searching google to no avail looking for a picture of Shrek punching someone as a response to this post.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
Seems strange to call a guy up if Downie is only day to day. Flyers aren't exactly a pillar of honest injury reporting though.
- PhillySportsGuy

Well it could be one of those day to day aka week per week things.

I fully expected a callup. I mean you have to think, even if he's truly day to day, are they gonna roll Rosehill out there?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
Penguins have lost which means Malkin needs to start punching people.
- PhillySportsGuy


I missed it, how many games did Neal get for the stick to the face of that Detroit player?

It looks like Pitt even had a nice PP advantage over St Louis...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:39 PM ET
Well it could be one of those day to day aka week per week things.

I fully expected a callup. I mean you have to think, even if he's truly day to day, are they gonna roll Rosehill out there?

- Giroux_Is_God

pretty much what they did in the beginning of the season
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 3:39 PM ET
I was searching google to no avail looking for a picture of Shrek punching someone as a response to this post.
- Giroux_Is_God


He's always such a poor sport when his team loses. Im talking about Malkin. Not Shrek
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