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FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
If Pittsburgh keeps playing so well the Flyers might be able to pull into first place in the division
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 3:53 PM ET

- BiggE


http://video.nhl.com/vide...584619&cmpid=rss-whatsnew

Parting of the Blue Jacket Sea
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
I was searching google to no avail looking for a picture of Shrek punching someone as a response to this post.
- Giroux_Is_God


Heres some great Malkin pictures:


FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
http://video.nhl.com/vide...584619&cmpid=rss-whatsnew

Parting of the Blue Jacket Sea

- PhillySportsGuy


We need him to complete our set of Isles Defenders
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
We need him to complete our set of Isles Defenders
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


We'll wait a few years and grab Pulock too.

"Why can't our 20 year old defenseman play 25 minutes per night, score 40 points and shut down the opposition!? These guys are turnover machines!" - Islander fans
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
If they still lose the game in regulation, I don't honestly care how many they get.
- ob18

i only care because i think it reflects the nhl's never-ending hard-on for thr flyers. it would be nice to get a properly officiated game on a regular basis let alone the benefit of the calls on home ice, as some teams "seem" to get
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
Heres some great Malkin pictures:

- FrmRusiaWifGlov

plz no
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
i only care because i think it reflects the nhl's never-ending hard-on for thr flyers. it would be nice to get a properly officiated game on a regular basis let alone the benefit of the calls on home ice, as some teams "seem" to get
- hogweed


Honestly, I don't think such a thing exists. Fans of every team complain about the officiating and think that they're team has gotten screwed. NHL officiating is just inconsistent. And it's the same for every team.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
Honestly, I don't think such a thing exists. Fans of every team complain about the officiating and think that they're team has gotten screwed. NHL officiating is just inconsistent. And it's the same for every team.
- MJL



This is a hilariously ironic way to put it

True nonetheless, but I do think the Flyers get the poop end of the stick a little more often than other teams. To put it another way, it seems like the Flyers never get the benefit of the doubt. How many times has Hartnell gotten called for a chicken poop goalie interference penalty?
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
plz no
- Marc D


You dont enjoy young malkin eating soup?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
plz no
- Marc D


hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
Honestly, I don't think such a thing exists. Fans of every team complain about the officiating and think that they're team has gotten screwed. NHL officiating is just inconsistent. And it's the same for every team.
- MJL

if that were the case than teams would tend to cycle around in terms of calls against, but that isn't the way it works. the flyers are consistently at the top of the list and new jersey is frequently near the bottom of the list of calls against. given the post lock-out emphasis on restraining penalties and the devils' style of play you would think they' be at risk for more calls against, but it didn't happen
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
You dont enjoy young malkin eating soup?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Tried to look for shrek eating soup on google

No avail

One day.......
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 4:11 PM ET


This is a hilariously ironic way to put it

True nonetheless, but I do think the Flyers get the poop end of the stick a little more often than other teams. To put it another way, it seems like the Flyers never get the benefit of the doubt. How many times has Hartnell gotten called for a chicken poop goalie interference penalty?

- Giroux_Is_God


That is pretty funny. It's inconsistent but the same! Man, I have a way with words!
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
We'll wait a few years and grab Pulock too.

"Why can't our 20 year old defenseman play 25 minutes per night, score 40 points and shut down the opposition!? These guys are turnover machines!" - Islander fans

- PhillySportsGuy


"We have to trade him. He is awful"... After Trade "He was never good. Our defense will be much stronger without him"
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
The Jackets with an ugly loss to the Isles. They're starting to fade a little, and the Craps are getting warm.
- ravishingone



warm huh.... maybe they'll warm up to some ROWs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 4:13 PM ET


This is a hilariously ironic way to put it

True nonetheless, but I do think the Flyers get the poop end of the stick a little more often than other teams. To put it another way, it seems like the Flyers never get the benefit of the doubt. How many times has Hartnell gotten called for a chicken poop goalie interference penalty?

- Giroux_Is_God


Flyers have a large group of guys with reputations for taking undisciplined penalties.

I thought the high sticking penalty called on Downie against the Devils embodied how the referees feel about certain players.

If the Flyers are winning and have had more power plays, they will call Downie for breathing on a player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
if that were the case than teams would tend to cycle around in terms of calls against, but that isn't the way it works. the flyers are consistently at the top of the list and new jersey is frequently near the bottom of the list of calls against. given the post lock-out emphasis on restraining penalties and the devils's style of play you would think they' be at risk for more calls against, but it didn't happen
- hogweed


The Flyers are consistently near the top of the list in calls against, because they lack discipline and take a lot of penalties. And the Devils are disciplined. Style of play really has nothing to do with it. There is no hard on or conspiracy theory against the Flyers.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
Tried to look for shrek eating soup on google

No avail

One day.......

- Giroux_Is_God


Closest I could get

hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
The Flyers are consistently near the top of the list in calls against, because they lack discipline and take a lot of penalties. And the Devils are disciplined. Style of play really has nothing to do with it. There is no hard on or conspiracy theory against the Flyers.
- MJL

horsepoop
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
Closest I could get


- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Yeah I saw that one but it....it just wasn't "the one"
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:15 PM ET
The Flyers are consistently near the top of the list in calls against, because they lack discipline and take a lot of penalties. And the Devils are disciplined. Style of play really has nothing to do with it. There is no hard on or conspiracy theory against the Flyers.
- MJL


I wish we could improve that just a little. Even with the bad officiating on Saturday it was nerve wracking having them take so many stupid ones. I wish we were middle of the pack
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
Flyers have a large group of guys with reputations for taking undisciplined penalties.

I thought the high sticking penalty called on Downie against the Devils embodied how the referees feel about certain players.

If the Flyers are winning and have had more power plays, they will call Downie for breathing on a player.

- PhillySportsGuy

it also works the other way when they are getting smoked (on the scoreboard and calls) the refs give them some meaningless pp's at the end of a game so it looks more even than it really is
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 23 @ 4:17 PM ET
Yeah I saw that one but it....it just wasn't "the one"
- Giroux_Is_God


I agree. Ill keep looking
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 23 @ 4:19 PM ET
it also works the other way when they are getting smoked (on the scoreboard and calls) the refs give them some meaningless pp's at the end of a game so it looks more even than it really is
- hogweed


Yeah. I hate how officials feel the need to even things out and give the team behind some calls. Everyone knows they do this. Even Jim Jackson says "Flyers need to keep playing, they should have some calls heading their way at some point."

I just think reputation means so much in hockey. Two players get into it and the assumption is that Downie started the fight or Rinaldo started the fight.

The problem for the Flyers is that they have too many of these players. Guys like Hartnell, Rinaldo and Downie will never get the benefit of the doubt on any call. The Devils don't seem to have a ton of guys like that.
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