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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Did they delete posts? Because I most have missed it....
- SchennBros


There was the daily "Advanced stats are/aren't the best thing ever" debate, and someone started comparing them to rape statistics.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
There was the daily "Advanced stats are/aren't the best thing ever" debate, and someone started comparing them to rape statistics.
- jmatchett383


I must have missed that. Im sure Glenn Beck could find a way to compare advanced stats to Hitler though.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:01 PM ET
I must have missed that. Im sure Glenn Beck could find a way to compare advanced stats to Hitler though.
- PhillySportsGuy


Really... Your going to go from Advanced Stats to Politics....

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 5:06 PM ET
There was the daily "Advanced stats are/aren't the best thing ever" debate, and someone started comparing them to rape statistics.
- jmatchett383


FFS.



That wasn't the comparison. At all.

It was clear what I said: ANY stat, any stat at all, is simply math, some of which can be predictive, some of which are snapshots in time, but all requiring context.

Crime stats. Poverty stats. Hockey stats. ANY STAT.

Advanced stats. Plus/minus. Ice time. Whatever stat anybody tosses out requires context for it to mean anything!

How do you guys live, with just the leap to reduce any conversation to the simplest component possible?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
breathe, relax, we can get through this guys
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
FFS.



That wasn't the comparison. At all.

It was clear what I said: ANY stat, any stat at all, is simply math, some of which can be predictive, some of which are snapshots in time, but all requiring context.

Crime stats. Poverty stats. Hockey stats. ANY STAT.

How do you guys live, with just the leap to reduce any conversation to the simplest component possible?

- AllInForFlyers


lol

Get it... lol... short ofr laugh out loud...lol...lol...lol.

Einstein would tell you the entire universe could be described in a mathmetical equasion. You can define anything with math. Whether is the amount of atoms that make up an element, and the addition of elements to make compounds...

But the truth is, you can describe a rose's perfection in a mathmetical equasion, but all you really have to do is look at it, smell it... experience it to know that.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
Yesterday, people were going on and on about Alex Ovechkin's plus/minus -- which isn't an advanced stat.

And yet, some people have no problem interpreting that stat and making a determination about what type of player he is.

We do it all the time! That was my point! We interpret stats and numbers ALL THE TIME and make determinations about what we think we're seeing! It's not just advanced stats!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:15 PM ET
Ok new topic time.

You have the choice of becoming the GM of any hockey team other than the Flyers. Which team do you choose and what moves do you make this offseason?

(Don't say "I become GM of the Pens and trade Crosby and Neal for Bruno Gervais")
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 25 @ 5:17 PM ET
Ok new topic time.

You have the choice of becoming the GM of any hockey team other than the Flyers. Which team do you choose and what moves do you make this offseason?

(Don't say "I become GM of the Pens and trade Crosby and Neal for Bruno Gervais")

- PhillySportsGuy


Rats
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
I'd like to be GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs so I can continue to ruin that franchise
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
But the truth is, you can describe a rose's perfection in a mathmetical equasion, but all you really have to do is look at it, smell it... experience it to know that.
- SchennBros



Why can't you do both? Enjoy the beauty of the flower, while at the same time understanding it on a scientific level as well? Why should one preclude the other?

In fact, knowing the physics of how the flower came to be, that it's essentially made up of stardust, just makes it that much more wonderful.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
Yesterday, people were going on and on about Alex Ovechkin's plus/minus -- which isn't an advanced stat.

And yet, some people have no problem interpreting that stat and making a determination about what type of player he is.

We do it all the time! That was my point! We interpret stats and numbers ALL THE TIME and make determinations about what we think we're seeing! It's not just advanced stats!

- AllInForFlyers




All I see is Blonde, Brunette, Redhead.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
I'd like to be GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs so I can continue to ruin that franchise
- BulliesPhan87


Nooooo. The point is to help the team. This will be your legacy!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Why can't you do both? Enjoy the beauty of the flower, while at the same time understanding it on a scientific level as well? Why should one preclude the other?

In fact, knowing the physics of how the flower came to be, that it's essentially made up of stardust, just makes it that much more wonderful.

- Tomahawk

That's ridiculous, stars are in space, and that's like a million miles away. Even science knows that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Nooooo. The point is to help the team. This will be your legacy!
- PhillySportsGuy

If my legacy was ruining the Maple Leafs, I could die happy.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
I agree. My apologies. Back to Hockey.


I'm really suprised that Lecavalier isn't catching more flak today
.

- MJL


Well, the night is still young
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
Why can't you do both? Enjoy the beauty of the flower, while at the same time understanding it on a scientific level as well? Why should one preclude the other?

In fact, knowing the physics of how the flower came to be, that it's essentially made up of stardust, just makes it that much more wonderful.

- Tomahawk


Or takes away from the simplistic beauty of it.

People that fall back on advanced stats IMO its because they just cant quantify what the rest of us see with our eyes.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Or takes away from the simplistic beauty of it.

People that fall back on advanced stats IMO its because they just cant quantify what the rest of us see with our eyes.

- SchennBros


Reverse that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
So today we have sunk to rape, politics and how to tell a bad neighborhood from a good one.


This is why you say no to drugs children and for gods sake stay in school!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Ok new topic time.

You have the choice of becoming the GM of any hockey team other than the Flyers. Which team do you choose and what moves do you make this offseason?

(Don't say "I become GM of the Pens and trade Crosby and Neal for Bruno Gervais")

- PhillySportsGuy


I'd like to be GM of the Isles. I mean, heck, I'm following Garth friggin Snow, no matter what I do, I'll look like a genius!!
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Well, the night is still young

- BiggE

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
If my legacy was ruining the Maple Leafs, I could die happy.
- BulliesPhan87

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:25 PM ET

- SchennBros



You have WAY too much time on your hands!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
Or takes away from the simplistic beauty of it.

People that fall back on advanced stats IMO its because they just cant quantify what the rest of us see with our eyes.

- SchennBros


I can't believe I didn't understand that until just now.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
Reverse that.
- PhillySportsGuy


I reverse, your reverse, skip you, Draw 2, Uno, Wild blue.

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