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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 25 @ 7:41 PM ET
The argument about Ovechkin being overrated makes people look like silly.
- PLindbergh31


Hell, I'll take him in a heartbeat.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 25 @ 7:41 PM ET
the Blues are mauling the Leafs in gameplay. cripes.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:41 PM ET
The argument about Ovechkin being overrated makes people look like silly.
- PLindbergh31


I think most hockey people would rather have Backstrom than Ovechkin
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
The argument about Ovechkin being overrated makes people look like silly.
- PLindbergh31


Man...again. I get it. The dude could be more aware defensively. And yeah, if they don't make it, Washington's gonna have to do some soul searching.

But if they make it to the playoffs and that dude pops 60 goals and is the most lethal scorer in hockey on the league's best PP, and that's how they got there...I don't get how that makes that dude a bad player.

That's beyond me. It's just beyond me.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
Hell, I'll take him in a heartbeat.
- 77rams


Who wouldn't. The object of the sport is putting the rubber disc in the net. He does it better than anyone. That's good enough for me.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
just wait for nutter
- Marc D


BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
the Blues are mauling the Leafs in gameplay. cripes.
- wilsonecho91


Reimer isn't opening the bench door fast enough, and the players are getting frustrated. His level of incompetence is otherworldly.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
Man...again. I get it. The dude could be more aware defensively. And yeah, if they don't make it, Washington's gonna have to do some soul searching.

But if they make it to the playoffs and that dude pops 60 goals and is the most lethal scorer in hockey on the league's best PP, and that's how they got there...I don't get how that makes that dude a bad player.

That's beyond me. It's just beyond me.

- AllInForFlyers


He's a great player. There are some things about his game I don't like, but when you score with the regularity he does, you have to look past that stuff.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
Who wouldn't. The object of the sport is putting the rubber disc in the net. He does it better than anyone. That's good enough for me.
- PLindbergh31


I thought the key was to put the disc into the other team's net more often than they put it in your net. Maybe Im wrong.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
Reimer isn't opening the bench door fast enough, and the players are getting frustrated. His level of incompetence is otherworldly.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


HA!
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
I think the key was to put the disc into the other team's net more often than they put it in your net. Maybe Im wrong.
- PhillySportsGuy


I could be wrong, but the team that scores the most usually wins the game. Not always, but usually.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
Man...again. I get it. The dude could be more aware defensively. And yeah, if they don't make it, Washington's gonna have to do some soul searching.

But if they make it to the playoffs and that dude pops 60 goals and is the most lethal scorer in hockey on the league's best PP, and that's how they got there...I don't get how that makes that dude a bad player.

That's beyond me. It's just beyond me.

- AllInForFlyers


I haven't read anyone state that he is a bad player. Ovechkin along with Stamkos are heads above anyone else in the NHL as goal scorers. Ovechkin is one of the best goal scorers ever to play the game. Now with that being said, obviously, there is more to the game. Especially in the playoffs. And against top teams like Boston in the East. I think they can shut down a player like Ovechkin, and take advantage of weaknesses in his game, and in the Caps game overall. But Boston can do that to a lot of teams. I think the only thing that has been said is that if Ovechkin would dedicate more to becoming a better all around player, not only would he be better, but so would Washington. And that's not foolish talk at all.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
I could be wrong, but the team that scores the most usually wins the game. Not always, but usually.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


Unless the refs cheat for the Penguins
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 7:49 PM ET
I could be wrong, but the team that scores the most usually wins the game. Not always, but usually.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


Nah. Tons of teams win games 0-0
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:50 PM ET
I haven't read anyone state that he is a bad player. Ovechkin along with Stamkos are heads above anyone else in the NHL as goal scorers. Ovechkin is one of the best goal scorers ever to play the game. Now with that being said, obviously, there is more to the game. Especially in the playoffs. And against top teams like Boston in the East. I think they can shut down a player like Ovechkin, and take advantage of weaknesses in his game, and in the Caps game overall. But Boston can do that to a lot of teams. I think the only thing that has been said is that if Ovechkin would dedicate more to becoming a better all around player, not only would he be better, but so would Washington. And that's not foolish talk at all.
- MJL


Keys to shutting down Ovechkin

1. Don't take penalties.
2. See #1
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:51 PM ET
Nah. Tons of teams win games 0-0
- PLindbergh31


Would you rather have Bergeron or Ovechkin?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 7:51 PM ET
After 1

London - 4
Windsor - 0

Stolarz with 8 saves
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
After 1

London - 4
Windsor - 0

Stolarz with 8 saves

- ob18


Still feeling good about your OHL pick?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
I haven't read anyone state that he is a bad player. Ovechkin along with Stamkos are heads above anyone else in the NHL as goal scorers. Ovechkin is one of the best goal scorers ever to play the game. Now with that being said, obviously, there is more to the game. Especially in the playoffs. And against top teams like Boston in the East. I think they can shut down a player like Ovechkin, and take advantage of weaknesses in his game, and in the Caps game overall. But Boston can do that to a lot of teams. I think the only thing that has been said is that if Ovechkin would dedicate more to becoming a better all around player, not only would he be better, but so would Washington. And that's not foolish talk at all.
- MJL


Fair enough -- I overstated by saying people said he was a "bad player." My overstatement.

I don't know how to equate everyone's definition of better -- I can only gauge the Caps off what I see. I see them infrequently, but they rely on the PP when I do.

Could they do it differently? Maybe. But I don't know that. I don't follow them closely enough to know whether Ovechkin sacrificing offense for defense would have them winning more games. If I watched them more often, I'd probably have a better feel.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Would you rather have Bergeron or Ovechkin?
- PhillySportsGuy


No brainer. Ovechkin.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
Keys to shutting down Ovechkin

1. Don't take penalties.
2. See #1

- PhillySportsGuy



Well he's scored 26 ES goals to 20 PP goals. But no question, stay out of the box against Washington.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
No brainer. Ovechkin.
- PLindbergh31


Ovechkin or Toews?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
Would you rather have Bergeron or Ovechkin?
- PhillySportsGuy


Depends on style of play, and the other guys I'd have on the roster.

But if those were the two best players available in a draft, I'd pick Ovechkin -- for the simple fact that, as has been noted, you can't win a game 0-0.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
Well he's scored 26 ES goals to 20 PP goals. But no question, stay out of the box against Washington.
- MJL


Ill take my chances against him at ES. He seems to be on the ice for a lot of goals against.
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
Nah. Tons of teams win games 0-0
- PLindbergh31


Blasphemy.
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