Triple - Vinny
- PhillySportsGuy

Technically a double post with a side of cross-bar. That sucked. I knew we were going to lose after I saw that didn't go.

The loss will temper expectations a little bit and keep everyone, players and fans a like, humble. 5 game win streak was great. Its over now. They haven't accomplished anything, yet.

Perfect time to step back, re-focus, and recharge. Still got some tough games left; gonna have to keep working even harder if they want these remaining points.

Emery just looks very slow, especially when he is down moving post to post.



Im not saying Emery didn't stand on his head, or playing him was a bad move. Just wondering if anyone else thinks Mason could have stood on his head ... more than emery? lol.

Technically a double post with a side of cross-bar. That sucked. I knew we were going to lose after I saw that didn't go.

The loss will temper expectations a little bit and keep everyone, players and fans a like, humble. 5 game win streak was great. Its over now. They haven't accomplished anything, yet.

Perfect time to step back, re-focus, and recharge. Still got some tough games left; gonna have to keep working even harder if they want these remaining points.
- mochoson

Thats how I feel too. I still feel good about the team moving forward. They were bounce to have a down game against one these elite teams. The way I saw last night, they didn't go going early enough then ran out of time. I feel like they just needed a few more minutes.

Thats how I feel too. I still feel good about the team moving forward. They were bounce to have a down game against one these elite teams. The way I saw last night, they didn't go going early enough then ran out of time. I feel like they just needed a few more minutes.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think the true test for this team is going to be the Bruins game on Sunday. If the Flyers can pull off a win there and make it look good, than I will be truly optimistic.

Technically a double post with a side of cross-bar. That sucked. I knew we were going to lose after I saw that didn't go.

The loss will temper expectations a little bit and keep everyone, players and fans a like, humble. 5 game win streak was great. Its over now. They haven't accomplished anything, yet.

Perfect time to step back, re-focus, and recharge. Still got some tough games left; gonna have to keep working even harder if they want these remaining points.
- mochoson

Exactly. This is a young team, they need to have some adversity to overcome. They have the perfect situation tomorrow night against the Rangers.

Thats how I feel too. I still feel good about the team moving forward. They were bounce to have a down game against one these elite teams. The way I saw last night, they didn't go going early enough then ran out of time. I feel like they just needed a few more minutes.
- PhillySportsGuy

It was a good lesson for them. They played 20 minutes and still almost beat a pretty good team.

Hopefully they learn the right lesson, and that is they can beat anyone if they compete for the majority of every period. Sure there will be letdowns, that is the nature of the game. Just don't let them be for entire periods.

The bad lesson would be the 'flip the switch' mentality they seemed to have under Lavy.

Maybe starting Mason would've given the team a small boost, but really that small boost should've been provided by the skaters in the first 40 minutes.

Exactly. This is a young team, they need to have some adversity to overcome. They have the perfect situation tomorrow night against the Rangers.
- KGBflyers10

Right, and if this team cant get up for the game against the team one point ahead of them in the standings, who happens to own them over the last few years and is also a division rival and possible first round opponent? They can't get up for anyone.

It was a good lesson for them. They played 20 minutes and still almost beat a pretty good team.

Hopefully they learn the right lesson, and that is they can beat anyone if they compete for the majority of every period. Sure there will be letdowns, that is the nature of the game. Just don't let them be for entire periods.

The bad lesson would be the 'flip the switch' mentality they seemed to have under Lavy.
- MBFlyerfan

I worry they'll slip back into only skating one or two periods too, but I also realize that's not entirely fair. Even if you discount the Penguins wins because of their injuries, the Flyers have played really well lately. They were bound to come up short at some point, they deserve a chance to regroup and get back to winning.

They should be at no loss for motivation tomorrow.

After all was said and done, the Flyers finished pretty even in terms of possession last night. They really dominated the third. Its a shame they gave up that momentum goal right after tying it.
- PhillySportsGuy

The more I watch Hockey, the more I'm convinced, throw all those possession numbers out the window. Not meaningless, but not definitive either.

if you were to say to me the record would be 5-1-0 after games with Pitts, pitts, Chicago, Dallas, St Louis and LA I would have said no way. I was hoping for 3-3-0

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He isn't as athletic a goalie anymore after his hip injury. That being said, the adjustments he's made to his game to compensate for his lack of mobility are exactly why Ray Emery is still a top notch back-up/fill in starter in this league.

To ask if Mason would have fared better when Emery made 38 saves in a 3-2 game is nit a picky, penny pinching analysis.

The team in front of him wouldn't have magically played any better, and Mason doesn't end up getting a day of well earned rest. The right move was made.

Emery's lack of mobility is noticeable when asked to make a save such as the 2 on 1 break-down that ended up being the game winning goal. But to hone in on this aspect and suggest Mason makes that save only means the game is still tied at that point. The better team won last night. Goaltending was a non-issue.

The more I watch Hockey, the more I'm convinced, throw all those possession numbers out the window. Not meaningless, but not definitive either.
- MJL

Seriously. Most of it's blatantly obvious data that doesn't even really tell you much of anything, really.

Oh, Erik Karlsson has fantastic posession numbers? And the Senators overall have great possesion numbers whenever he's on the ice. Wow. Never would have guessed.

The more I watch Hockey, the more I'm convinced, throw all those possession numbers out the window. Not meaningless, but not definitive either.
- MJL

No single stat by itself in hockey is worth a damn thing. Corsi and Fenwick mean nothing if a team has a low Shooting%. +/- means nothing without having zone start % and QoC. Goals are over rated too, if you are a -31, having 46 goals is useless.

No single stat by itself in hockey is worth a damn thing. Corsi and Fenwick mean nothing if a team has a low Shooting%. +/- means nothing without having zone start % and QoC. Goals are over rated too, if you are a -31, having 46 goals is useless.
- FlyersSteve118

hm i wonder who fits that

No single stat by itself in hockey is worth a damn thing. Corsi and Fenwick mean nothing if a team has a low Shooting%. +/- means nothing without having zone start % and QoC. Goals are over rated too, if you are a -31, having 46 goals is useless.
- FlyersSteve118

No single stat by itself in hockey is worth a damn thing. Corsi and Fenwick mean nothing if a team has a low Shooting%. +/- means nothing without having zone start % and QoC. Goals are over rated too, if you are a -31, having 46 goals is useless.
- FlyersSteve118

Any stat required context behind it. The Flyers got crushed in Corsi against the Blues. But the Flyers outplayed the Blues and won 4-1.
Not to mention that alot of stats such QoC are suspect at best.

Downie out of the lineup and the Flyers lose? Coincidence?

Tough game. The Flyers still made it interesting. Time to start another winning streak vs the Rangers.

Oh, and this kid is willing to show Vinny how to put a puck in a wide open net...

- wolfhounds

Vinny was Channeling Carter last night.

Downie out of the lineup and the Flyers lose? Coincidence?
- mickel25

Conspiracy!

Vinny was Channeling Carter last night.
- SchennBros

I wish he was. Carter was the best forward on the ice last night.

Any stat required context behind it. The Flyers got crushed in Corsi against the Blues. But the Flyers outplayed the Blues and won 4-1.
- MJL

Yeah corsi is just a shots for / shots against measure. To say you can't win a game if you get out shot is stupid, but a majority of the time the winning team has more shots. So who knows. It probably means something at some point, but not always.

I'm sure someone is going to make a stat that combines Shooting%, shots, attempted shots, and scoring chances that is actually significant to saying which teams are superior to others.

Yeah corsi is just a shots for / shots against measure. To say you can't win a game if you get out shot is stupid, but a majority of the time the winning team has more shots. So who knows. It probably means something at some point, but not always.

I'm sure someone is going to make a stat that combines Shooting%, shots, attempted shots, and scoring chances that is actually significant to saying which teams are superior to others.
- FlyersSteve118

One stat that is a pretty good indicator of a playoff team is goal differential. Right now 13 of the 16 teams that currently hold a playoff spot have a positive GD. Only one team (CBJ) has a positive GD and is currently out of the playoffs.

Yeah corsi is just a shots for / shots against measure. To say you can't win a game if you get out shot is stupid, but a majority of the time the winning team has more shots. So who knows. It probably means something at some point, but not always.

I'm sure someone is going to make a stat that combines Shooting%, shots, attempted shots, and scoring chances that is actually significant to saying which teams are superior to others.
- FlyersSteve118

No matter how good the numbers are, when it comes to calling a team "superior", it's just an opinion. A very well informed opinion, sure, but just an opinion.

The Flyers reverted to some bad habits last night, most notably they were a bit slow on their skates in reacting to the Kings. For 40 minutes it was basically a flashback to earlier this season, when the Flyers looked like they were skating in molasses compared to their opponents.

However, sometimes a loss can be a good thing. Hopefully they'll come out tomorrow night refocused, up on their skates, and take it to the Rangers for a full 60 minutes. They had better, too, because it won't take too many more losses to find they're on the outside looking in.