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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Nah, it's not but I'd appreciate more of an effort in that area. My point being. If this were true (Wang not being willing to pay two coaches
- Cptmjl[which I do remember hearing too btw but still not sure if it's true?])
than why does Snow sign him to a two year contract? Yeah we made it to the playoffs last season but anyone could see that had nothing to do with coaching. It almost seemed Capuano was trying to sabotage that from happening and once there make it as difficult as possible for the team(ex; Reasoner, ice time for amac, etc..). Is him being signed to a two year contract Wang's fault too? It is a completely moronic thing to do with Capuano. If Snow understood Wang's feelings on coach contracts(which if you knew we have to assume he did) then why handcuff the team to him for two seasons when he is so obviously an inept coach? Makes zero sense. Once again, Snow's fault.


Bonus points for using both parentheses and brackets.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
Nah, it's not but I'd appreciate more of an effort in that area. My point being. If this were true(Wang not being willing to pay two coaches
- Cptmjl[which I do remember hearing too btw but still not sure if it's true?])than why does Snow sign him to a two year contract? Yeah we made it to the playoffs last season but anyone could see that had nothing to do with coaching. It almost seemed Capuano was trying to sabotage that from happening and once there make it as difficult as possible for the team(ex; Reasoner, ice time for amac, etc..). Is him being signed to a two year contract Wang's fault too? It is a completely moronic thing to do with Capuano. If Snow understood Wang's feelings on coach contracts(which if you knew we have to assume he did) then why handcuff the team to him for two seasons when he is so obviously an inept coach? Makes zero sense. Once again, Snow's fault.

1st bold: As I said before, two year deals are pretty much the minimal norm for coaches. You don't typically see a coach get his second contract with a team for only a 1 year term. Also remember, despite the fact that we all see Cappy as a complete moron and terrible coach, remember that during the Pens playoffs series, the idiot announcers were talking about Cappy as though he was a serious Jack Adams candidate. So while he sucks, and we all knew he did, there were media personalities who completely disagreed. I'm not sure how Snow sees Cappy, but I'm pretty sure it's in a much more positive light than we do!

2nd Bold: I believe I said "Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him"

I imagine Snow is very much on the fence with what to do about Cappy at this point. And that's why I mention that Wang's reluctance to pay for two coaches at once could the tipping point.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
1st bold: As I said before, two year deals are pretty much the minimal norm for coaches. You don't typically see a coach get his second contract with a team for only a 1 year term. Also remember, despite the fact that we all see Cappy as a complete moron and terrible coach, remember that during the Pens playoffs series, the idiot announcers were talking about Cappy as though he was a serious Jack Adams candidate. So while he sucks, and we all knew he did, there were media personalities who completely disagreed. I'm not sure how Snow sees Cappy, but I'm pretty sure it's in a much more positive light than we do!

2nd Bold: I believe I said "Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him"

I imagine Snow is very much on the fence with what to do about Cappy at this point. And that's why I mention that Wang's reluctance to pay for two coaches at once could the tipping point.

- keaner17

Announcers "announcing". They also said amac was the second coming of Coffey numerous times too. People outside our fanbase know little to nothing about this club so when a team that hasn't made the playoffs in seven years makes it to the dance this tends to happen with little to no merit. Snow has to be a little more in touch with reality if he thinks Capuano has done an even negligible job at this point. It continually points to the same thing from every single direction with Snow. There's just no avoiding it. Incompetence.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
Bonus points for using both parentheses and brackets.
- UIF

So happy someone noticed this
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
1st bold: As I said before, two year deals are pretty much the minimal norm for coaches. You don't typically see a coach get his second contract with a team for only a 1 year term. Also remember, despite the fact that we all see Cappy as a complete moron and terrible coach, remember that during the Pens playoffs series, the idiot announcers were talking about Cappy as though he was a serious Jack Adams candidate. So while he sucks, and we all knew he did, there were media personalities who completely disagreed. I'm not sure how Snow sees Cappy, but I'm pretty sure it's in a much more positive light than we do!

2nd Bold: I believe I said "Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him"

I imagine Snow is very much on the fence with what to do about Cappy at this point. And that's why I mention that Wang's reluctance to pay for two coaches at once could the tipping point.

- keaner17

Cappy will not be back next year. Staple has hinted at that numerous times. You have to think Staple has some inside knowledge of the team.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:31 PM ET
1st bold: As I said before, two year deals are pretty much the minimal norm for coaches. You don't typically see a coach get his second contract with a team for only a 1 year term. Also remember, despite the fact that we all see Cappy as a complete moron and terrible coach, remember that during the Pens playoffs series, the idiot announcers were talking about Cappy as though he was a serious Jack Adams candidate. So while he sucks, and we all knew he did, there were media personalities who completely disagreed. I'm not sure how Snow sees Cappy, but I'm pretty sure it's in a much more positive light than we do!

2nd Bold: I believe I said "Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him"

I imagine Snow is very much on the fence with what to do about Cappy at this point. And that's why I mention that Wang's reluctance to pay for two coaches at once could the tipping point.

- keaner17


That playoff "run" was good but it is not like the played perfect hockey. They still lost that series. JAck Capuano was still clueless even then
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
Cappy will not be back next year. Staple has hinted at that numerous times. You have to think Staple has some inside knowledge of the team.
- mighty13duck


He will be back I have no doubt about that. You don't even hear he is on the hot seat.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
If Cappy is coach next year he will play Nabby until his hip shatters and his leg falls off. Then the backup goalie (who will have only played 1 game) will be asked to step in and carry the team with no assistance from the defense. Bailey will get 15+ minutes a game for skating in circles just above the face off dots. The team will suck and Cappy will say they're just not getting the breaks in all his post game interviews.

No need to watch. I just saved you 200+ hours of agony.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
If Cappy is coach next year he will play Nabby until his hip shatters and his leg falls off. Then the backup goalie (who will have only played 1 game) will be asked to step in and carry the team with no assistance from the defense. Bailey will get 15+ minutes a game for skating in circles just above the face off dots. The team will suck and Cappy's will say they're just not getting the breaks in all his post game interviews.

No need to watch. I just saved you 200+ hours of agony.

- JimmyP

UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
That playoff "run" was good but it is not like the played perfect hockey. They still lost that series. JAck Capuano was still clueless even then
- kasperrko


One-year anomalies can be deceiving. Florida won their division a couple of seasons ago and lost a seven-game series in the first round to the team that went on to win the Eastern Conference. I'm sure they thought the sky was the limit after that only to end up with us two seasons later fighting it out for a top-5 pick.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
He will be back I have no doubt about that. You don't even hear he is on the hot seat.
- kasperrko


That's not true. There are rumors he would be fired if the Isles miss the playoffs. I'm not saying its going to happen, but it has been said.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:38 PM ET
Announcers "announcing". They also said amac was the second coming of Coffey numerous times too. People outside our fanbase know little to nothing about this club so when a team that hasn't made the playoffs in seven years makes it to the dance this tends to happen with little to no merit. Snow has to be a little more in touch with reality if he thinks Capuano has done an even negligible job at this point. It continually points to the same thing from every single direction with Snow. There's just no avoiding it. Incompetence.
- Cptmjl

Whoa...never heard that one

Point being, while we all knew/thought that last year was a result in spite of Cappy, typical praise will go to a coach in a year where a team overacheives. The Isles looked not only like overacheivers, but a team poised for a Cinderella run halfway into that playoff series. So the media was on a high with Cappy at that point. Considering Snow hired him, was friends with him etc, it probably didn't take much convincing to start patting himself on the back for that .
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Cappy will not be back next year. Staple has hinted at that numerous times. You have to think Staple has some inside knowledge of the team.
- mighty13duck

Staple only gets what the team feeds him.

I'm not saying I disagree that Cappy will be gone, but I don't think Staple will know ANYTHING about it until just before it happens. This team holds info like no other.

For the record, I was saying Cappy would be fired at the end of the season back in December.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
Staple only gets what the team feeds him.

I'm not saying I disagree that Cappy will be gone, but I don't think Staple will know ANYTHING about it until just before it happens. This team holds info like no other.

For the record, I was saying Cappy would be fired at the end of the season back in December.

- keaner17



He knows more then you think
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
That's not true. There are rumors he would be fired if the Isles miss the playoffs. I'm not saying its going to happen, but it has been said.
- JimmyP


Maybe but this organization really do not have hockey smarts so that being said Captain Jack will be leading the troops once again to a lottery team
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Whoa...never heard that one

Point being, while we all knew/thought that last year was a result in spite of Cappy, typical praise will go to a coach in a year where a team overacheives. The Isles looked not only like overacheivers, but a team poised for a Cinderella run halfway into that playoff series. So the media was on a high with Cappy at that point. Considering Snow hired him, was friends with him etc, it probably didn't take much convincing to start patting himself on the back for that .

- keaner17

Exaggeration but I did hear Ruttgaizer call him the "swiss army knife" of our blue line. Still trying to understand what the fack that means?
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
Exaggeration but I did hear Ruttgaizer call him the "swiss army knife" of our blue line. Still trying to understand what the fack that means?
- Cptmjl


That he could be used in any situation.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
Staple only gets what the team feeds him.

I'm not saying I disagree that Cappy will be gone, but I don't think Staple will know ANYTHING about it until just before it happens. This team holds info like no other.

For the record, I was saying Cappy would be fired at the end of the season back in December.

- keaner17

The thought of him being behind the bench next year makes me physically ill for so many reasons. I'm not kidding.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
That he could be used in any situation.
- JimmyP

Amac?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
The thought of him being behind the bench next year makes me physically ill for so many reasons. I'm not kidding.
- Cptmjl

It really does
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Amac?
- Cptmjl


Hey, I didn't say it! I'm just giving the definition.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Hey, I didn't say it! I'm just giving the definition.
- JimmyP

I saw the meaning but couldn't relate it to the player being discussed.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
He will be back I have no doubt about that. You don't even hear he is on the hot seat.
- kasperrko



Sure you do... you are just not listening.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
He is not going to anywhere. He has a year on his contract left. The Islanders will use the injuries as his excuse. He will suck next year and they will let him go half way through the season just to hire either SCott Pellirin, Doug Weight or Thompson. They will do decent and then be our coach for the next 5 years. See the circle of life on this team
- kasperrko

Seriously, can anyone confirm how many years are left on Cappy's contract? I thought this was the last year? If not, he'll be around until it expires at the very least.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Mar 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Seriously, can anyone confirm how's my years are left on Cappy's contract? I thought this was the last year? If not, he'll be around until it expires at the very least.
- Jethro09



I tried looking around the internet... can't seem to find it.

Everything is in the vault.

To be honest... it shouldn't matter.

He should be fired... even if he has 5 yrs left...
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