Every time a player became decent, they let him walk. PA Paranteau and Brad Boyes come to mind. They will argue that KO or Vanek were better...but their issue is that outside of their 1st line, they suck. Now imagine a top-6 of Moulson - Tavares - Okposo and Paranteau - Nielsen - Boyes...now you have some depth and secondary scoring and players that have been together for a while.
- rangerdanger94

PA? The player you let walk for nothing? That guy? Boyes? Really?

Every time a player became decent, they let him walk. PA Paranteau and Brad Boyes come to mind. They will argue that KO or Vanek were better...but their issue is that outside of their 1st line, they suck. Now imagine a top-6 of Moulson - Tavares - Okposo and Paranteau - Nielsen - Boyes...now you have some depth and secondary scoring and players that have been together for a while.
- rangerdanger94

Exactly. Depth wins in this league. Teams that load up their top lines don't have enough money or assets for other areas.

Moulson-JT-Okposos was a fine top line. If they wanted to give up that much, they should have looked for a defenseman or goalie. They upgraded the only above average part of their team.

One more reference to his weight and I'm reporting you. I will not have this type of bullying in this forum.
- SchennBros

PA? The player you let walk for nothing? That guy? Boyes? Really?
- Cptmjl

We were able to replace him with a top-6 NHL player. You guys replaced him with Bailey or Clutterbuck? And yes Boyes is a better NHL player than at least 7 of your forwards.

Anyone know anything about this Goumas kid the Flyers signed?

Anyone know anything about this Goumas kid the Flyers signed?
- PLindbergh31

all i know is you say the "s"

Exactly. Depth wins in this league. Teams that load up their top lines don't have enough money or assets for other areas.

Moulson-JT-Okposos was a fine top line. If they wanted to give up that much, they should have looked for a defenseman or goalie. They upgraded the only above average part of their team.
- PhillySportsGuy

This I agree with. The other point I don't. You don't sign depth guys for 5.5 million dollars per yr. Moulson was reported to have wanted 6.5 million over 6 yrs. Sorry, he's not worth it.

His relationship has been so over blown since the trade. I'm not defending Snow, I'm not a fan. Never have been but to call the Vanek trade an almost lateral move shows you don't know much about either player. It was an overpayment IMO but I'd take Vanek over Moulson any day of the week. That line was vastly better with Vanek on it.
- Cptmjl

It's hard to gauge a lot of value when Vanek only spent a sort time with Tavares. I can look back and see that over the last few seasons that based on production, Vanek and Moulson were similar players. Obviously, Buffalo didn't have Tavares, but it's not like Vanek was producing that well.

I agree with everything in this post besides this part. Moulson is just not that good and Snow should do better for the first line as well as the rest of the team. I'm happy Streit is playing well for you guys but him at 5.5 for 5 yrs is not what I want for this team. AMAC was god awful for us. Blatantly at times. If Snow resigned him half the fanbase would have shat themselves. We have a lot of defensive prospects coming up. DeHaan has been impressive so far.
- Cptmjl

Defensive prospects take a while to develop and they need to be sheltered. Even though Mac and Streit aren't top pairing dmen, they could take the burden off of the young guys.

You need to hope Hamonic doesn't lose his confidence by having to play tough minutes every night.

I guess I've been spoiled as a Flyers fan because money doesn't matter unless it comes to the cap, but letting players walk for fear of overpayment will never help the franchise. Sometimes, you just overpay a player so you aren't forced to take a big step back.

We were able to replace him with a top-6 NHL player. You guys replaced him with Bailey or Clutterbuck? And yes Boyes is a better NHL player than at least 7 of your forwards.
- rangerdanger94

and ten of yours but this proves what?

Anyone know anything about this Goumas kid the Flyers signed?
- PLindbergh31

His new nickname will be Gooey.

Offensive talent. Big time scorer. Thats all I really know.

and ten of yours but this proves what?
- Cptmjl

Whether you want to admit it or not, the Rangers have a better 4 lines than the Islanders do.

this is not the war I envisioned were declared

And everyone thinks those were overpayments too!
- PhillySportsGuy

I tend to agree. I'm not sold Miller can win a team a Stanley Cup. Is he an upgrade on Halak? Yes, but again it's not like going from Brian Boucher to Tuukka Rask.

This I agree with. The other point I don't. You don't sign depth guys for 5.5 million dollars per yr. Moulson was reported to have wanted 6.5 million over 6 yrs. Sorry, he's not worth it.
- Cptmjl

Well he won't be getting close to that.

Defensive prospects take a while to develop and they need to be sheltered. Even though Mac and Streit aren't top pairing dmen, they could take the burden off of the young guys.

You need to hope Hamonic doesn't lose his confidence by having to play tough minutes every night.

I guess I've been spoiled as a Flyers fan because money doesn't matter unless it comes to the cap, but letting players walk for fear of overpayment will never help the franchise. Sometimes, you just overpay a player so you aren't forced to take a big step back.
- PhillySportsGuy

The problem is they weren't. They were not playing well. Again, I'm no fan of Snow but I don't see how anyone could justify paying either of them or the term of what they wanted? I for one am happy he didn't.

Well he won't be getting close to that.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree but he would have tried with us and went to FA if he didn't. His stats also would have been padded playing with Tavares all season so he would have got it with another team.

Whether you want to admit it or not, the Rangers have a better 4 lines than the Islanders do.
- rangerdanger94

Again, what does this have to do with anything?

I tend to agree. I'm not sold Miller can win a team a Stanley Cup. Is he an upgrade on Halak? Yes, but again it's not like going from Brian Boucher to Tuukka Rask.
- Jsaquella

I know. I thought that was a reach as well. I thought Elliot outplayed Miller on their recent road trip.

I'll bet. Did you guys get much snow last night?
- Jsaquella

About 4 inches on the grass, 2 on the driveway, but a lot of ice underneath. Thankfully after shoveling, the ice has already mostly melted off.

Anyone know anything about this Goumas kid the Flyers signed?
- PLindbergh31

Good speed, good playmaker, lot of offensive potential and from what the scouts say, he's a smart kid. Watched about 20 minutes of youtube highlights of him and he's dynamic as a college player.

About 4 inches on the grass, 2 on the driveway, but a lot of ice underneath. Thankfully after shoveling, the ice has already mostly melted off.
- BiggE

Same here. The ice was bad this morning, which was a factor in the car to the bus

The problem is they weren't. They were not playing well. Again, I'm no fan of Snow but I don't see how anyone could justify paying either of them or the term of what they wanted? I for one am happy he didn't.
- Cptmjl

It just seems like the team lets talent walk out the door, but they aren't replenishing it at the same pace.

Every prospect that comes in, a veteran walks out. There seems to be no net gain.

It just seems like the team lets talent walk out the door, but they aren't replenishing it at the same pace.

Every prospect that comes in, a veteran walks out. There seems to be no net gain.
- PhillySportsGuy

It's okay. Their 1st line is better than your 1st line and that's all that matters

Heard Buffalo is willing to shop the 1st for NHL ready prospects. Think Laughton, Morin, 2014 1st and 2015 1st will land you Ekblad?
- SchennBros

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