Out of curiosity, who is Armia playing with in Rochester?

I wonder if his compete level goes up if he plays with better players. Maybe Grigs coming back will up his compete level?
- thatsapickle

If you have to ask, its probably a problem.

Bleacher Report's Dan Pompei reports the Texans are "trying hard" to trade the No. 1 overall pick in May's draft and "might have a trade partner" in the Bills.
Pompei has been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years. The Texans reportedly want to move down in an effort to accumulate more picks in what is considered the deepest draft in recent memory. The Bills are said to be eyeing a move up, possibly for a quarterback. It'd be quite the statement if Buffalo was to give up on E.J. Manuel just one year after making him the 16th overall pick. Targeting a pass rusher like Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack might make more sense. The Bills are currently scheduled to draft ninth overall and have just seven picks total.

It takes more than 1 player to have a good team. I think you're being overly critical of our guys and have beer goggles on when it comes to guys in other organizations.

Just because they're Sabres property doesn't mean they won't amount to anything. And just because a guy plays for a better team than we currently are doesn't make them a superstar either.

There are 20 guys that suit up on a nightly basis. Not 1, 20.
- HonkFortheGoose

This is 98% of the fan base.

Bleacher Report's Dan Pompei reports the Texans are "trying hard" to trade the No. 1 overall pick in May's draft and "might have a trade partner" in the Bills.
Pompei has been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years. The Texans reportedly want to move down in an effort to accumulate more picks in what is considered the deepest draft in recent memory. The Bills are said to be eyeing a move up, possibly for a quarterback. It'd be quite the statement if Buffalo was to give up on E.J. Manuel just one year after making him the 16th overall pick. Targeting a pass rusher like Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack might make more sense. The Bills are currently scheduled to draft ninth overall and have just seven picks total.
- SABRES 89

I now have a massive erection at work

It takes more than 1 player to have a good team. I think you're being overly critical of our guys and have beer goggles on when it comes to guys in other organizations.

Just because they're Sabres property doesn't mean they won't amount to anything. And just because a guy plays for a better team than we currently are doesn't make them a superstar either.

There are 20 guys that suit up on a nightly basis. Not 1, 20.
- HonkFortheGoose

Lets just start with 1 great player and go from there.

Bleacher Report's Dan Pompei reports the Texans are "trying hard" to trade the No. 1 overall pick in May's draft and "might have a trade partner" in the Bills.
Pompei has been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years. The Texans reportedly want to move down in an effort to accumulate more picks in what is considered the deepest draft in recent memory. The Bills are said to be eyeing a move up, possibly for a quarterback. It'd be quite the statement if Buffalo was to give up on E.J. Manuel just one year after making him the 16th overall pick. Targeting a pass rusher like Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack might make more sense. The Bills are currently scheduled to draft ninth overall and have just seven picks total.
- SABRES 89

Id think a trade up would be for like the top Tackle in greg Robinson out of Auburn. Dont think you would have to go that high to get him. With the trade of Schaub I dont know how they dont take a QB.

If you have to ask, its probably a problem.
- RynoBull

That's true, but since I am away from the area and the majority of the complaints against are about his compete level, I was wondering if it was related to who he was playing with.

It takes more than 1 player to have a good team. I think you're being overly critical of our guys and have beer goggles on when it comes to guys in other organizations.

Just because they're Sabres property doesn't mean they won't amount to anything. And just because a guy plays for a better team than we currently are doesn't make them a superstar either.

There are 20 guys that suit up on a nightly basis. Not 1, 20.
- HonkFortheGoose

This is true but I feel we all ready have all the complimentary pieces in place in our current prospects. the gritty guys the future two way leaders the solid 2nd line winger.. But you also need those 1st line guys too.. Which was my point in saying every team has someone who would automatically be our best player shows why it is so important to draft a offensive guy first instead of going D.

This is true but I feel we all ready have all the complimentary pieces in place in our current prospects. the gritty guys the future two way leaders the solid 2nd line winger.. But you also need those 1st line guys too.. Which was my point in saying every team has someone who would automatically be our best player shows why it is so important to draft a offensive guy first instead of going D.
- bluengold12

I .......agree

Id think a trade up would be for like the top Tackle in greg Robinson out of Auburn. Dont think you would have to go that high to get him. With the trade of Schaub I dont know how they dont take a QB.
- hubie

This draft is one of the deepest with potential starters that make an impact as the experts say. If anything I would want to trade down and get more picks in the first 2 rounds not trade up

Teppo looks thrilled to be there
- RynoBull

I believe it was probably 5-1 at that time...

Nope never said that. Read the whole post, don't just pick what you want. In fact my OP said i would like to take Reinhart, but if we took Ekblad with a contingency plan in place to trade a D-man I'd be fine with that. I never said don't take a forward because we have those three, just said that we weren't Nashville because we have those three who could POSSIBLY be good/great NHL players. Read the whole thing please.
- SDSabre

I did read your entire post twice.. I just took it as a bunch of what ifs... Like if we draft Ekblad then we'd still suck and maybe we'd trade away Myers or Ehrhoff for a quality offensive player.. But no one your going to get will be as good as getting an 18 year old first overall pick in this draft who has plenty of time to learn and would all ready be your top guy on your team in terms of offensive ability that's my point. So maybe I slightly misinterpreted what you said but the point is still this I don't see any justification taking Ekblad instead of Reinhart or Bennett.

Do they? Your bar for actual first line talent has been eroded by the Sabres.
- RynoBull

Wht do U consider "top line" talent
Armia still has 30+ goals a year potential
Grigorenko still has ppg potential
There's not too many guys in the league who get a ppg
Sure, these guys still have plenty of developing to do...
But it doesn't mean they still can't be good players

Dupuis plays on the 1st line w Crosby
Versteeg plays on the top line w Toews

You don't need to ice an "All-star" team to win the cup

I did read your entire post twice.. I just took it as a bunch of what ifs... Like if we draft Ekblad then we'd still suck and maybe we'd trade away Myers or Ehrhoff for a quality offensive player.. But no one your going to get will be as good as getting an 18 year old first overall pick in this draft who has plenty of time to learn and would all ready be your top guy on your team in terms of offensive ability that's my point. So maybe I slightly misinterpreted what you said but the point is still this I don't see any justification taking Ekblad instead of Reinhart or Bennett.
- bluengold12

Talking about who any team drafts is always talking about what ifs. And if you read it twice, like you said, you'd see that I would take Reinhart, Ekblad, then the rest in that order. So you missed it again, as i never said take Ekblad over Reinhart unless Murray doesn't like one of Darcy's drafted kids. O, and getting Reinhart the Sabres would still suck. Don't kid yourself there.

This draft is one of the deepest with potential starters that make an impact as the experts say. If anything I would want to trade down and get more picks in the first 2 rounds not trade up
- Stripes77

I cant recall the last draft that I didnt want to trade down in. ST. Louis is in such a good spot with having 2 picks early

Talking about who any team drafts is always talking about what ifs. And if you read it twice, like you said, you'd see that I would take Reinhart, Ekblad, then the rest in that order. So you missed it again, as i never said take Ekblad over Reinhart unless Murray doesn't like one of Darcy's drafted kids. O, and getting Reinhart the Sabres would still suck. Don't kid yourself there.
- SDSabre

Yeah you did say you'd draft Reinhart but you said you'd be okay with drafting Ekblad if what you previously mentioned happened.. my point is it wouldn't be enough for me... Sabres probably would still suck with Reinhart but they'd be a hell of a lot better off overall then if they didn't draft him.

This is true but I feel we all ready have all the complimentary pieces in place in our current prospects. the gritty guys the future two way leaders the solid 2nd line winger.. But you also need those 1st line guys too.. Which was my point in saying every team has someone who would automatically be our best player shows why it is so important to draft a offensive guy first instead of going D.
- bluengold12

Right, and I agree wth all of this. We already have a super solid prospect pool. There's plenty of talent in it, and most GMs would love to be in Murray's shoes. He's got most of the pieces he needs, it's just a matter of now getting that 1 or 2 guys that put us back into the thick of things every year.

That was what I was trying to say when I mentioned how great our prospect pool is and you basically threw it out the window and said it didn't matter. But it does matter. It matters a lot. Because if you take Reinhart and insert him into the current roster, this team is still going to be god awful.

This draft is one of the deepest with potential starters that make an impact as the experts say. If anything I would want to trade down and get more picks in the first 2 rounds not trade up
- Stripes77

I normally don't mind talking Bills and stuff here. But now we're talking about two separate drafts and I was totally confused for a min.

Can we try and focus on just 1 of them at a time?

Wht do U consider "top line" talent
Armia still has 30+ goals a year potential
Grigorenko still has ppg potential
There's not too many guys in the league who get a ppg
Sure, these guys still have plenty of developing to do...
But it doesn't mean they still can't be good players

Dupuis plays on the 1st line w Crosby
Versteeg plays on the top line w Toews

You don't need to ice an "All-star" team to win the cup
- jdfitz77

As far as the Sabres are concerned, Grigorenko and Armia are after thoughts at this point. The hole the Sabres have dug is so deep they cant plan around late bloomers.

As far as the Sabres are concerned, Grigorenko and Armia are after thoughts at this point. The hole the Sabres have dug is so deep they cant plan around late bloomers.
- Buffalo-Sabres

I wouldnt put my money on the two of them combined being 30 goal scorers. Grigorenko a ppg guy

Yeah you did say you'd draft Reinhart but you said you'd be okay with drafting Ekblad if what you previously mentioned happened.. my point is it wouldn't be enough for me... Sabres probably would still suck with Reinhart but they'd be a hell of a lot better off overall then if they didn't draft him.
- bluengold12

As long as the Sabres have a Top 5 pick they better pick Centers

I wouldnt put my money on the two of them combined being 30 goal scorers. Grigorenko a ppg guy
- hubie

He said potential. That is true. it is also true that Leino has potential to be a 50 point guy.

Right, and I agree wth all of this. We already have a super solid prospect pool. There's plenty of talent in it, and most GMs would love to be in Murray's shoes. He's got most of the pieces he needs, it's just a matter of now getting that 1 or 2 guys that put us back into the thick of things every year.

That was what I was trying to say when I mentioned how great our prospect pool is and you basically threw it out the window and said it didn't matter. But it does matter. It matters a lot. Because if you take Reinhart and insert him into the current roster, this team is still going to be god awful.
- HonkFortheGoose

BUT I'm trying to get the point out there to those who are still in the Ekblad camp that no matter how many complimentary guys you have if you don't have those high end guys as well your not going to be good... So my main point was yes we have nice overall depth in terms of middle prospects but we still have yet to get anyone on offensive who could amount to being a game changer.... Reinhart would make this team a lot better from the start.. not enough to pull us out the god awful rug were under now but enough to show why drafting him is the right move.

I wouldnt put my money on the two of them combined being 30 goal scorers. Grigorenko a ppg guy
- hubie

Isnt that what I said?

Yeah you did say you'd draft Reinhart but you said you'd be okay with drafting Ekblad if what you previously mentioned happened.. my point is it wouldn't be enough for me... Sabres probably would still suck with Reinhart but they'd be a hell of a lot better off overall then if they didn't draft him.
- bluengold12

Well fair enough then. So, we both would want Reinhart, your two will be next available forward, mine would be Ekblad. Good news for both, is that there is no where to go but up.