Flyersgod
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thank flyersgod - Just5
I'll gladly eat crow if he does.
Most likely the Flyers will mishandle his development and he'll crash and burn only to be traded away for a 4th round pick and become the next Keith on another team.
What can I say, I'm an optimist. |
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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.07.2013
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My question is this, and I think it's a fair one:
Giroux's line draws the toughest opposition, offensively. Couturier's line draws the toughest opposition, defensively.
That's fine. We all get that.
But if we still have to hide Brayden Schenn against other good lines -- and maybe we do -- then seriously, don't we at least have to ask the question of what, exactly, he's accomplishing at center?
If you're not shutting anybody down, and you're not a bigger threat offensively than the competition you're facing, well, (frank), you can do that on the fourth line.
Again: I'm not saying Vinny is the answer. But at some point, it's not unfair to say, "Golly gee, Baby Schenn...don't effing disappear against Nazem Kadri's line, at home!"
I don't think that's unfair to ask, right? Kadri's a young center, too! At some point, you do have to be compared to something, including your peers -- Schenn can't get a pass on potential every single freaking game, while other people get demoted!
Again: We all want Schenn to make it -- I want Schenn to make it. But if we have to effing hide the guy against every freaking team we face...then Flyersgod has it right: He's not ready for second-line minutes, if we can only play the guy 10 damn minutes, at home! - AllInForFlyers
I prefer to be wrong. Although you make a solid argument.
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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was hoping this was a gif of him smashing things - Winning
Don't have one. |
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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was hoping this was a gif of him smashing things - Winning
bro can you make a gif of jake face mushing dion? i'll wait here, thanks |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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My question is this, and I think it's a fair one:
Giroux's line draws the toughest opposition, offensively. Couturier's line draws the toughest opposition, defensively.
That's fine. We all get that.
But if we still have to hide Brayden Schenn against other good lines -- and maybe we do -- then seriously, don't we at least have to ask the question of what, exactly, he's accomplishing at center?
If you're not shutting anybody down, and you're not a bigger threat offensively than the competition you're facing, well, (frank), you can do that on the fourth line.
Again: I'm not saying Vinny is the answer. But at some point, it's not unfair to say, "Golly gee, Baby Schenn...don't effing disappear against Nazem Kadri's line, at home!"
I don't think that's unfair to ask, right? Kadri's a young center, too! At some point, you do have to be compared to something, including your peers -- Schenn can't get a pass on potential every single freaking game, while other people get demoted!
Again: We all want Schenn to make it -- I want Schenn to make it. But if we have to effing hide the guy against every freaking team we face...then Flyersgod has it right: He's not ready for second-line minutes, if we can only play the guy 10 damn minutes, at home! - AllInForFlyers
Mcginn is next to useless out there. What the hell do you want B Schenn to do with him. Mcginn was just dumping every time he got the puck. If you guys dont see the chemistry he has with Simmonds I dont know what your looking at. The quick 2 on 1 he had with Simmonds during the blues game I believe is evidence of that. Simmonds shot that puck on purpose to get the rebound to Schenn who deposited it. Nice give and go's on that rush. Nah, these guys are 22 and 24 and their our future with Schenn at center. |
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hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.01.2013
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Grapes talking about the linesman on the VLC 5-on-3 goal. - Pixote Andolini
i know...other than that i love hnc coverage |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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was hoping this was a gif of him smashing things - Winning
How about
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Mcginn is next to useless out there. What the hell do you want B Schenn to do with him. Mcginn was just dumping every time he got the puck. If you guys dont see the chemistry he has with Simmonds I dont know what your looking at. The quick 2 on 1 he had with Simmonds during the blues game I believe is evidence of that. Simmonds shot that puck on purpose to get the rebound to Schenn who deposited it. Nice give and go's on that rush. Nah, these guys are 22 and 24 and their our future with Schenn at center. - Just5
You keep mentioning the chemistry that Schenn has with Simmonds. Nobody has suggested separating Schenn and Simmonds.
I gave you the numbers with Schenn at Center and Wing. How he is so much better at Center? |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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In the last 20 games, playing Center, Schenn has 4 goals and 4 assists. Man, he's really killing it at Center.
And I'm not looking to kill Schenn here. Just trying to understand how Schenn has been so dam good at Center that he can't be moved to the Wing. - MJL
I don't want to kill Schenn, either -- but maybe...he's just not ready to do this, at the level of a scoring line center.
That's not a crime -- I started thinking about it today, when I saw that Ryan O'Reilly and Nathan MacKinnon are playing on the wing right now.
Again: Maybe somebody needs to be honest and acknowledge that Schenn might not be ready to play 17 minutes a night against second defense pairs, or NHL-ready second lines.
That's not a crime -- maybe moving him down in the lineup would be good for him, or to the wing, until he develops more consistency.
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Josh Thrower vs Tyrell Goulbourne (Rinaldo 2.0)
- ob18
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Mcginn is next to useless out there. What the hell do you want B Schenn to do with him. Mcginn was just dumping every time he got the puck. If you guys dont see the chemistry he has with Simmonds I dont know what your looking at. The quick 2 on 1 he had with Simmonds during the blues game I believe is evidence of that. Simmonds shot that puck on purpose to get the rebound to Schenn who deposited it. Nice give and go's on that rush. Nah, these guys are 22 and 24 and their our future with Schenn at center. - Just5
I just think it's fair to wonder if Schenn is truly ready to be a No. 2 center -- do you truly feel comfortable that he's going to show up tomorrow and be a player?
Because I'll tell you what: David Krejci and Patrice Bergeron and Chris Kelly are coming to play tomorrow.
I'll bet money that Claude Giroux and Sean Couturier do what they do tomorrow.
If you tell me you know what Brayden Schenn is going to do tomorrow...I'll believe you, but I'll be honest: I have no damn clue what Schenn's gonna do tomorrow, and maybe I shouldn't have to ask that of the No. 2 center.
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Anyone know any Flyers getting married soon? |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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I just think it's fair to wonder if Schenn is truly ready to be a No. 2 center -- do you truly feel comfortable that he's going to show up tomorrow and be a player?
Because I'll tell you what: David Krejci and Patrice Bergeron and Chris Kelly are coming to play tomorrow.
I'll bet money that Claude Giroux and Sean Couturier do what they do tomorrow.
If you tell me you know what Brayden Schenn is going to do tomorrow...I'll believe you, but I'll be honest: I have no damn clue what Schenn's gonna do tomorrow, and maybe I shouldn't have to ask that of the No. 2 center. - AllInForFlyers
I know exactly what Vinny is going to do tommorow, after he finishes lotioning up. |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I know exactly what Vinny is going to do tommorow, after he finishes lotioning up. - Just5
I gave factual information why I don't think Schenn is better at Center then at Wing. Can you show me why you think that he is? I'm trying to understand what makes him so much better at Center.
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard. Joined: 06.26.2006
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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The Leafs thread is gold right now Jerry, gold... |
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Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 05.11.2010
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I wish AHL games would be a bit easier to watch, looking at the scoreboard just doesn't really do much. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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The Leafs thread is gold right now Jerry, gold... - opeth_pa
*lurks*
EDIT: Van Riemsdyk- Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Raymond - Bolland - Kulemin
Bodie - McLement - D'Amigo
Orr
Phaneuf - Franson
Rielly - Gleason
Gardiner - Franson
Ranger
Bernier
Reimer
The only people that should be back next year. - Some Leafs Fan |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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It's not all that bad for Leaf fans. We can go over there and tell them the Sixers won. That'll cheer em up. |
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watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard. Joined: 06.26.2006
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It's not all that bad for Leaf fans. We can go over there and tell them the Sixers won. That'll cheer em up. - Giroux_Is_God
how many flyers games have you gone to this year? |
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hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.01.2013
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can someone explain to me how new jersey can beat us? another loser point tonight against the mighty islanders....what's that 47 otl losses this year? love that format |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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how many flyers games have you gone to this year? - watsonnostaw
3, because I'm a broke college kid with exams every week. Saw them win twice. |
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watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard. Joined: 06.26.2006
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3, because I'm a broke college kid with exams every week. Saw them win twice. - Giroux_Is_God
how can you be broke and work as a hospital pharmacy tech saving lives? |
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