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Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:52 PM ET
Lombardi is a better GM than Gillis. So is Holland. I want a good GM that can properly assess the talent at his disposal, make trades that can change the dynamic of the team if required and improve its make-up. I think we are a big enough franchise to have that person. Gillis is not that person and he's shown it.
- AlexF


Do you think David McNab or Bob Nicholson could be that guy?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 3 @ 11:55 PM ET
Do you think David McNab or Bob Nicholson could be that guy?
- Chest Rockwell


Nicholson, no. McNab, yes.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 4 @ 12:04 AM ET
I read the scouting staff, under Mike Gillis's direction, did a complete about-face on their scouting methods. Apparently they did an analysis of the players drafted, league wide, over several years, they said it was quite apparent where the kids who had the most success came from.

In a nut shell without getting in depth that's the just of what I read. Last year they employed the new methods and I believe they had a very good draft.

- LeftCoaster


That's pretty much the only positive we will take from the Gillis era. I think our scouting has turned the corner... They seemed to have keyed on traits that will lead to success in the NHL. Prospects playoff performance maybe...
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 4 @ 12:09 AM ET
...Oh and keeping Rollie Melanson around was pretty great too. Although I'm pretty sure it was because he "worked well with Schneider"
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 4 @ 12:15 AM ET
...Oh and keeping Rollie Melanson around was pretty great too. Although I'm pretty sure it was because he "worked well with Schneider"
- Jim_Robson

This Gillis love feast is making me sick. If you guys keep making excuses why we should keep Gillis we will never get rid of him, FA reads this crap you know.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 4 @ 12:21 AM ET
This Gillis love feast is making me sick. If you guys keep making excuses why we should keep Gillis we will never get rid of him, FA reads this crap you know.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Bahahahahahahaha!!! I sure hope FA reads this blog.

Dear Mr. A.,

I want Mike's head to roll just as bad as anyone.

Sincerely,
Jim Robson
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:35 AM ET
Bahahahahahahaha!!! I sure hope FA reads this blog.

Dear Mr. A.,

I want Mike's head to roll just as bad as anyone.

Sincerely,
Jim Robson

- Jim_Robson

Carol is FA wife. He better read this stuff. I have been offered a job as the Cleaner.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Apr 4 @ 1:40 AM ET
Gillis said today that they will make difficult changes like they did when he first came in. I had to look it up but that basically meant the following:

2008 season: not resigning Naslund or Morrison then offering Sundin a monster contract. Fired a couple assistant coaches.
2009 season: resigning the twins, Lu, added Sammy and Erhoff. Added Maholtra and Hammer in the offseason.

If you look at 2008 as the year he said he made difficult decisions, what would a comparable be this year? He can't not resign or just trade guys because of NTC's and if he keeps Torts, there will be many players who won't want to be here. I think it was telling that he said "people" and not specfically "players" won't be here if they don't buy into what he's selling.

AV was able to coach offense and so was Babcock. Neither was an ass like Torts though which is the difference. Anyone can change. Even Rocky knew that. Take your dogs and leave town John. Yippee Ki Yay MF.

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 4 @ 1:54 AM ET
5 games left. Anything more than 3 points will be a disappointment. 25th is there for the taking, then the possibilities of jumping to a top 3 pick.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:22 AM ET
5 games left. Anything more than 3 points will be a disappointment. 25th is there for the taking, then the possibilities of jumping to a top 3 pick.
- Scooby_Doo

too much pressure on the kid to perform. let's shoot for 4th or 5th.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:47 AM ET
Gillis said today that they will make difficult changes like they did when he first came in. I had to look it up but that basically meant the following:

2008 season: not resigning Naslund or Morrison then offering Sundin a monster contract. Fired a couple assistant coaches.
2009 season: resigning the twins, Lu, added Sammy and Erhoff. Added Maholtra and Hammer in the offseason.

If you look at 2008 as the year he said he made difficult decisions, what would a comparable be this year? He can't not resign or just trade guys because of NTC's and if he keeps Torts, there will be many players who won't want to be here. I think it was telling that he said "people" and not specfically "players" won't be here if they don't buy into what he's selling.

AV was able to coach offense and so was Babcock. Neither was an ass like Torts though which is the difference. Anyone can change. Even Rocky knew that. Take your dogs and leave town John. Yippee Ki Yay MF.

- therealagent


I dont agree that AV was "able to coach offense"... IMO his defensive system just wasn't as suffocating to the players' instinctive freedom to create offense as Torts'. I dont like either of their styles. Not my idea of "entertaining".
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 4 @ 3:24 AM ET
5 games left. Anything more than 3 points will be a disappointment. 25th is there for the taking, then the possibilities of jumping to a top 3 pick.
- Scooby_Doo



6th is actually possible now. Top 10 is guaranteed and top 8 seems like a strong possibility IMO.


6th would be amazing, guarantees one of Dal Colle/Draisaitl/Ehlers
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 4 @ 3:28 AM ET
too much pressure on the kid to perform. let's shoot for 4th or 5th.
- therealagent


Sportsclubstats has the current odds at:

4th: 0%(no chance)
5th: 1%(aka no chance)
6th: 7%(need everything to go right basically)
7th: 12%(somewhat decent chance after these last 2-3 days)
8th: 17%(with the way this team is going I think top 8 is likely)
9th: 20%
10th: 20%
11th: 13%
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 4 @ 3:28 AM ET
6th is actually possible now. Top 10 is guaranteed and top 8 seems like a strong possibility IMO.


6th would be amazing, guarantees one of Dal Colle/Draisaitl/Ehlers

- Nucker101


It's not that I don't want us to get a high draft pick when the season is clearly lost, but cheering for us to lose has always made me feel a bit uneasy. Maybe that's just me.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 4 @ 3:29 AM ET
It's not that I don't want us to get a high draft pick when the season is clearly lost, but cheering for us to lose has always made me feel a bit uneasy. Maybe that's just me.
- AlexF



I'm cool with it once the season is down the drain, not from the get go like the Oilers in the past and Sabres this year.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:35 AM ET
Bro Jake and Pratt are the biggest dildos in the media but have to give it to Pratt he asked Gillis the tough questions today.

I hate hate hate the champ

- VANTEL


Yeah, except he asked the same question twice. "Will Tortarella be back next year?" Gills with long winded explanation about every member of the organization going through a thorough review and then decisions being made. Pratt "but will Tortarella be back next year?"

Even when they ask pointed questions they are stupid.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:36 AM ET
Then gtfo.
- Fosco


YOU'RE BACK
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:50 AM ET
I'm cool with it once the season is down the drain, not from the get go like the Oilers in the past and Sabres this year.
- Nucker101


I'm going to the game against Colorado next week with a bunch of guys from work. I'm sure the only guy cheering for the Canucks to win will be the flames fan
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 4 @ 5:24 AM ET
Vantel - if GMMG is true to his words, and he's still employed by the Canucks, with a new coach and a return to a more offensive minded game the Sedins will be 70+ point players again next year.
- LeftCoaster


Just like that. Replace the coach and we are back to what.... last season's Canuck and still in a much tougher division than the NW was?


We may see an offensive minded coach next season but he may be no more successful in this division. We also may see a more offensive minded coach next season and we still see this core fall down for two months. The team's trend had flop written all over it anyways....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 8:08 AM ET
Just like that. Replace the coach and we are back to what.... last season's Canuck and still in a much tougher division than the NW was?


We may see an offensive minded coach next season but he may be no more successful in this division. We also may see a more offensive minded coach next season and we still see this core fall down for two months. The team's trend had flop written all over it anyways....

- boonerbuck

+10
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:09 AM ET
Gillis is going nowhere.
- VANTEL

Yeah, the whole either you see things my way or your out comment all but assures Gilles is back. I'd love to see them bring in Dudley as GM and Gilles as president.
Another draft or 2 as good as last yr appears to be and we r looking good prospect wise
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:11 AM ET
I'm going to the game against Colorado next week with a bunch of guys from work. I'm sure the only guy cheering for the Canucks to win will be the flames fan
- 1970vintage

You work with lefty
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:11 AM ET
5 games left. Anything more than 3 points will be a disappointment. 25th is there for the taking, then the possibilities of jumping to a top 3 pick.
- Scooby_Doo

MDC
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:13 AM ET
Do you think David McNab or Bob Nicholson could be that guy?
- Chest Rockwell

Rick Dudley please
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Apr 4 @ 9:49 AM ET
Rick Dudley please
- Bieksa#3

No to Dudley. I would rather take a run at Ron Hextall. He played with Moxy has a great track record in front office. Worked his way up from pro scout to AGM. He would be a better fit and has relationship with the 2 teams that we want to trade with. He maybe able to get us Brayden Schenn or Simmonds.
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