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WaterBoy
Location: THIS BLOG SUCKS!, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
My bet is July. My bet is that this'll be the last too. I know it isn't a popular view, but I'm ready for them to shed Maynard and be an instrumental group.

PS The best album of the last 10 years is Queens of the Stone Age's ...Like Clockwork. Even my 17 month old baby friggin loves it.

- ThirdEye

Most probably the last.

I disagree about losing Maynard.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
My bet is July. My bet is that this'll be the last too. I know it isn't a popular view, but I'm ready for them to shed Maynard and be an instrumental group.

PS The best album of the last 10 years is Queens of the Stone Age's ...Like Clockwork. Even my 17 month old baby friggin loves it.

- ThirdEye


If we're talking Tool, aren't they pretty much an instrumental group? I think about 4.3% of their music includes vocals.

Also, QOTSA maybe put out the best "mainstream" album of the year (or whatever you'd call them), but I'd argue that Down to Nothing's first LP, the newer H2O record, and the Judge discorgrpahy are all better.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
What did I just listen to? Emobarbershopcore?

Rock n roll is dead.

- Tomahawk

Did I say they were rock n roll? Ever?

I agree. Rock is dead. Nothing will touch the 60s-70s-some 80s classic rock rock n roll.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Canadian
- BingoLady

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
Once again I've turned the thread to musicbuzz


I Rule!!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
What did I just listen to? Emobarbershopcore?

Rock n roll is dead.

- Tomahawk


I said this before, but if you want to check out something you probably haven't heard before, listen to Russian Circles...

First, they are named after a hockey drill. Second, that have a song called Hexed All named after our future GM.

Heavy instrumental music. I'd start with the song called "Harper Lewis".
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
Did I say they were rock n roll? Ever?

I agree. Rock is dead. Nothing will touch the 60s-70s-some 80s classic rock rock n roll.

- Giroux_Is_God


Jesus (frank)ing Christ. "Classic rock" wasn't all that good. A bunch of coke addicts writing sappy songs about shedding all responsibility and living in a world without any rules and doing acid. Earth-shattering.

The Who are amazing.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
Most probably the last.

I disagree about losing Maynard.

- WaterBoy


I'm not saying he *should* go. I'm just saying that they'd do fine without him. I don't think it matters though, because at this same pace, they'll be in their late 50s - early 60s by the time yet another album came out. I don't know if I want to hear from them at that age. I hope they go out on top. Hard for me to say that with them being one of my absolute favorite bands ever... but I don't want to see them dwindle into garbage.

PS, any Kyuss fans here? If you like metal and things that aren't garbage, check them out.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
Once again I've turned the thread to musicbuzz


I Rule!!

- BiggE

Better than selfteamtrollbuzz

I salute you GenerallE
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
Did I say they were rock n roll? Ever?

I agree. Rock is dead. Nothing will touch the 60s-70s-some 80s classic rock rock n roll.

- Giroux_Is_God


So true
I'm just glad Im old enough to have started going to concerts in the late 70s, I got to see some fantastic bands!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
Anyone who says there is no more good rock n' roll is either jaded or isn't looking very hard.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
What did I just listen to? Emobarbershopcore?

Rock n roll is dead.

- Tomahawk


There is only so much you can do with a guitar. And now with the internetand the ease of using your own recording software everyone and their mom has put together every possible combination of music you can think of and put it out there for people to hear. There is no such thing as original anymore. Haven't you been to theatres to see Superhero movie #37 yet? It is supposed to be the best one yet. (Again).
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
There is only so much you can do with a guitar. And now with the internetand the ease of using your own recording software everyone and their mom has put together every possible combination of music you can think of and put it out there for people to hear. There is no such thing as original anymore. Haven't you been to theatres to see Superhero movie #37 yet? It is supposed to be the best one yet. (Again).
- FlyersSteve118


Hate everything new.
The old stuff was better.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
My bet is July. My bet is that this'll be the last too. I know it isn't a popular view, but I'm ready for them to shed Maynard and be an instrumental group.

PS The best album of the last 10 years is Queens of the Stone Age's ...Like Clockwork. Even my 17 month old baby friggin loves it.

- ThirdEye


I think it will be their last album as well, which is why I'm definitely going to see them. They are taking longer and longer between albums, Maynard is in a bunch of side gigs, and there seems to be a bit of tension there... Plus, they aren't getting any younger.

I don't know, I love Maynard's lyrics. But I'd definitely dig some instrumental tunes from them. Of course Reflection and Triad are two of my favorite songs.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
Jesus (frank)ing Christ. "Classic rock" wasn't all that good. A bunch of coke addicts writing sappy songs about shedding all responsibility and living in a world without any rules and doing acid. Earth-shattering.

The Who are amazing.

- jmatchett383


Classic rock is kind of a bs label though. It only gets that label because so much incredible stuff was coming out at the same time. So much of it is exactly as you describe... but Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, a lot of others... just incredible, timeless stuff.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
Classic rock is kind of a bs label though. It only gets that label because so much incredible stuff was coming out at the same time. So much of it is exactly as you describe... but Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, a lot of others... just incredible, timeless stuff.
- ThirdEye

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
I rely heavily on friends for this
- Giroux_Is_God


So do I. I have friends who pay attention to bands like I pay attention to sports.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
Classic rock is kind of a bs label though. It only gets that label because so much incredible stuff was coming out at the same time. So much of it is exactly as you describe... but Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, a lot of others... just incredible, timeless stuff.
- ThirdEye


Led Zeppeling gets labelled "amazing" because they were "innovative." The 2 do not go hand in hand. They were a good band.

As for innovation, The Ramones, Minor Threat, and Michael Jackson were 10x as innovative as any band since The Beatles.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
Jesus (frank)ing Christ. "Classic rock" wasn't all that good. A bunch of coke addicts writing sappy songs about shedding all responsibility and living in a world without any rules and doing acid. Earth-shattering.

The Who are amazing.

- jmatchett383

Look, saying things like this about music to someone is useless. The reason there's so much music is because everyone has different tastes.

Don't try to shoot my tastes down. I haven't tried to shoot yours down, have I?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:05 PM ET
If we're talking Tool, aren't they pretty much an instrumental group? I think about 4.3% of their music includes vocals.

Also, QOTSA maybe put out the best "mainstream" album of the year (or whatever you'd call them), but I'd argue that Down to Nothing's first LP, the newer H2O record, and the Judge discorgrpahy are all better.

- jmatchett383


Nope. They just have amazing musicians and most of their songs are quite a bit longer than the cookie-cutter 3 minutes most bands are putting out, so that probably makes it seem lighter on lyrics.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:06 PM ET
Once again I've turned the thread to musicbuzz


I Rule!!

- BiggE




Awesome movie.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:06 PM ET
I think it will be their last album as well, which is why I'm definitely going to see them. They are taking longer and longer between albums, Maynard is in a bunch of side gigs, and there seems to be a bit of tension there... Plus, they aren't getting any younger.

I don't know, I love Maynard's lyrics. But I'd definitely dig some instrumental tunes from them. Of course Reflection and Triad are two of my favorite songs.

- wolfhounds


Man, you and I are on the same page. I've recently started getting the baby to bed with Disposition (this is the same baby who thinks A-Train by the Delta Rhythm Boys is the greatest song he's ever heard).

At a show I saw in Phoenix, someone hit Maynardo with a bottle. He stormed off stage while they played 46&2... I actually didn't even notice he was gone until he came back in the middle of the next song.

I apologize for helping to derail the hell out of this thread.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
Look, saying things like this about music to someone is useless. The reason there's so much music is because everyone has different tastes.

Don't try to shoot my tastes down. I haven't tried to shoot yours down, have I?

- Giroux_Is_God


I'm relatively sure you're not familiar with my music, and trust me, most people in my life has ridiculed my musical taste (rightfully so). I just find the fact that we adore and idolize these drug addict womanizers because they were good at playing guitar to be faulty.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
Led Zeppeling gets labelled "amazing" because they were "innovative." The 2 do not go hand in hand. They were a good band.

As for innovation, The Ramones, Minor Threat, and Michael Jackson were 10x as innovative as any band since The Beatles.

- jmatchett383


Led Zeppelin wasn't all that innovative though. They were mostly just ripping off old blues songs, just like the Rolling Stones. All four being irregularly talented is what makes them amazing... and I'll definitely have to disagree with you for once... they are amazing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
Nope. They just have amazing musicians and most of their songs are quite a bit longer than the cookie-cutter 3 minutes most bands are putting out, so that probably makes it seem lighter on lyrics.
- wolfhounds


They also have a lot of prerecorded music. Take the song "Your Own Eulogy" which is one one my favorites. I think there's a good 1:30 (maybe1:45 due to the drawn out title lyrics) of lyrics in a song about 7 minutes long.
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