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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Really?

Throw in some picks, prospects or 3rd/4th line players to even it out...


(Gagner is not the answer for us right now... How about Markstrom for Yaks?)

- hillbillydeluxe






The Idea is that we need Defense...not poopty goalies. This is not how a proper counter proposal works.
It goes more like this:
Edler for Eberle.
No.How about Gagner for Hamhuis?
No.How about Hamhuis for Yak?
No. How about Edler for Yak?
and so on and so on until both teams present a fair return.
the way your going it's going to end up Hall for Higgins or Kesler for Lander.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hank might play tonight.

From NHL.com

"Sedin practiced Friday on a line with wings Chris Higgins and Nicklas Jensen. Sedin's playmaking ability would be a huge asset for a Canucks team scrambling to make the Stanley Cup Playoffs".

Indeed, tickets still available for tonight's game

- Whiskey-Tango


Is this Gillis, Torts or Hank?

Sit Hank and put Dalpe or Schroeder up front, see what these guys can do before they are throw-ins during the summer trading season. Assess what is really there for more than 5 minutes a game and under live fire.


I don't know if I am deluded because I think there still might be more for these guys to show or the team is deluded to think there is still a chance to make the playoffs?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
The Idea is that we need Defense...not poopty goalies. This is not how a proper counter proposal works.
It goes more like this:
Edler for Eberle.
No.How about Gagner for Hamhuis?
No.How about Hamhuis for Yak?
No. How about Edler for Yak?
and so on and so on until both teams present a fair return.
the way your going it's going to end up Hall for Higgins or Kesler for Lander.

- Jeropotato


No arguments from me, I have never sat in on one of these negotiations. Just heard different scenarios on how they play out...

And if you are happy with your sh!tty goalies, I guess that leaves defense to deal with...
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
Put it this way. As horrid as Edmonton's Defense is, Toronto is probably the worst choice of trade partner to try and improve the D.
- Jeropotato


Ekblad may fall in your laps if the stars align properly for EDM.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
Really?

Throw in some picks, prospects or 3rd/4th line players to even it out...


(Gagner is not the answer for us right now... How about Markstrom for Yaks?)

- hillbillydeluxe


I can't tell if the markstrom for yaks is sarcasm or not.
I'll just assume it is. U can keep him.


Tanev and Kesler

Gagner and our first
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ekblad may fall in your laps if the stars align properly for EDM.
- Chest Rockwell

We have enough good D prospects, need a legit NHL veteran.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
Interesting day in the NHL already:

Evander Kane: possibly a healthy scratch
H.Sedin: playing tonight
Corrado: Recalled, possibly for Weber.
Lack: starts again.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
We have enough good D prospects, need a legit NHL veteran.
- Jeropotato


Well, trade one of those for a veteran. "Ekblads" don't fall from trees, possibly right into your laps. This is the problem with EDM, not drafting for need.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
I can't tell if the markstrom for yaks is sarcasm or not.
I'll just assume it is


Tanev and Kesler

Gagner and our first

- hugefemale dog77


Kesler won't go to Edmonton... just don't see it happening, even if Gillis wanted to make that trade.

I don't think there is enough coming back to the Canucks. Losing too much point production, grit and size. If it was just Kesler for Gagner and your 1st, that may be a starting point...
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Apr 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
Well, trade one of those for a veteran. "Ekblads" don't fall from trees, possibly right into your laps. This is the problem with EDM, not drafting for need.
- Chest Rockwell


What do you mean? Most scouts are saying Ekblad is not as good as last years D crop. Of which we took the second best. Our need right now is a bigger tougher 2C. We have D prospects. Just need a top 2 D vet.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
Well, trade one of those for a veteran. Ekblads don't fall from trees, possibly right into your laps. This is the problem with EDM, not drafting for need.
- Chest Rockwell

Sigh

No. It's really not.

We need proven help more than another 18 year old. We don't know for sure how great hes gonna be. He doesn't impress me near as much as Jones did.
And we have nurse, klefbom and marincin.
But no size in the top 6 and the wrong 2c for the group we already have.

Not drafting fir need? Like a hopeful 1c we needed in Nuge. Or a hopeful franchise player in hall?

Or a Like yaks instead of Murray?
Yaks led rooks in goals and points. Murray missed the whole year.
Do u think Murray would've made one iota of difference on our blueline this year? The jury is still out on the right pick there.

Too much hockeybuzz and easy answers for you bro. U need to look closer.\
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:23 PM ET
No arguments from me, I have never sat in on one of these negotiations. Just heard different scenarios on how they play out...

And if you are happy with your sh!tty goalies, I guess that leaves defense to deal with...

- hillbillydeluxe

I don't think it matters, Markstrom does nothing to improve our goal tending.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
I don't think it matters, Markstrom does nothing to improve our goal tending.
- Jeropotato

The oilers at present have better tending than they do.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
The oilers at present have better tending than they do.
- hugefemale dog77


Wat?
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Apr 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
Hello,

New blog's now live. Here's the link:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=59159
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
We have enough good D prospects, need a legit NHL veteran.
- Jeropotato


Yeah you guys need a Weber or Sutter or Chara. Unfortunately those types of guys are virtually untouchable.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 2:41 PM ET
Wat?
- hillbillydeluxe

Without a doubt.

Your tandem has a higher potential, but no question that ours is presently better

I'm not even sure this is up for debate.

I suppose a total homer Nuck fan might try...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:14 PM ET
Yeah you guys need a Weber or Sutter or Chara. Unfortunately those types of guys are virtually untouchable.
- AlexF


I don't even think we need that. It would be nice, but we good get by and possibly make the playoffs with a couple good" additions, seeing as how no "great" ones will be available.

If we could acquire one of ....
Markov
Erhoff
Bogosian
Coburn
Tyutin

...and compliment with one of ...
Mitchell
Hainsey
Regehr

...we would be a much improved hockey team.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:01 PM ET
Ekblad may fall in your laps if the stars align properly for EDM.
- Chest Rockwell

Doubt Ekblad gets past panthers. He is the clear best player in this draft and buff may pass because of their depth.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
I can't tell if the markstrom for yaks is sarcasm or not.
I'll just assume it is. U can keep him.


Tanev and Kesler

Gagner and our first

- hugefemale dog77

How much of Gagners contract are the oilers picking up? Half and I think the canucks consider it. No denying how bad that contract is
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:04 PM ET
Doubt Ekblad gets past panthers. He is the clear best player in this draft and buff may pass because of their depth.
- Bieksa#3


Yeah, he's a lock to go top 3. I don't see him slipping out of that spot like Seth Jones.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:05 PM ET
Without a doubt.

Your tandem has a higher potential, but no question that ours is presently better

I'm not even sure this is up for debate.

I suppose a total homer Nuck fan might try...

- hugefemale dog77

Well played.

Let me try. Canucks have a far better core of young players. Not even debatable, I suppose an inbred person may argue it but........

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
Yeah, he's a lock to go top 3. I don't see him slipping out of that spot like Seth Jones.
- Nucker101

I'll take MDC is the best forward and 2nd best player in the draft. I know the scouts have him 4/5 but I actually think he is the best forward by a landslide
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
Yeah, he's a lock to go top 3. I don't see him slipping out of that spot like Seth Jones.
- Nucker101

I'm on record as saying I gaurentee Tampa regrets passing and I'm quite certain Florida will.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
Well played.

Let me try. Canucks have a far better core of young players. Not even debatable, I suppose an inbred person may argue it but........

- Bieksa#3


I guess this is my cue.....
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