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Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
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Apr 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
Yeah, he's a lock to go top 3. I don't see him slipping out of that spot like Seth Jones.
- Nucker101


Probably not. But I can Edmonton and Buffalo passing on him. FLA needs him the most. He can be their next Bouwmeester
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
I'll take MDC is the best forward and 2nd best player in the draft. I know the scouts have him 4/5 but I actually think he is the best forward by a landslide
- Bieksa#3



I'm a big fan of him as well. But it's hard not to love most of the guys projected to go top 5/6. Best case is the Canucks finishing with 7th pick and Burke taking Ritchie.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:11 PM ET
Probably not. But I can Edmonton and Buffalo passing on him. FLA needs him the most. He can be their next Bouwmeester
- Jeropotato


FLA and EDM both need him big time IMO. But I really think both teams should seriously consider trading the pick, both teams are hurting their young talent by losing year after year.
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
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Apr 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
FLA and EDM both need him big time IMO. But I really think both teams should seriously consider trading the pick, both teams are hurting their young talent by losing year after year.
- Nucker101


Edmonton already has 4 potentially great defenders, why do we another kid that wont help us for 3 more years. We need a big Center even more.

I think Mac T is going to spend a lot of dough on free agents this year....and trade Sam Gamgee.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Edmonton already has 4 potentially great defenders, why do we another kid that wont help us for 3 more years. We need a big Center even more.

I think Mac T is going to spend a lot of dough on free agents this year....and trade Sam Gamgee.

- Jeropotato


Loose use of the word "great" there.



Gagner blows, Oilers should definitely trade him.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
Edmonton already has 4 potentially great defenders, why do we another kid that wont help us for 3 more years. We need a big Center even more.

I think Mac T is going to spend a lot of dough on free agents this year....and trade Sam Gamgee.

- Jeropotato

Lets say we finish 7th last and u guys 3rd last. Flip picks and we throw u Tanev and you throw 2nd. Deal?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Edmonton already has 4 potentially great defenders, why do we another kid that wont help us for 3 more years. We need a big Center even more.

I think Mac T is going to spend a lot of dough on free agents this year....and trade Sam Gamgee.

- Jeropotato

Wtf when did edm become toronto
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Apr 5 @ 10:19 PM ET
Lets say we finish 7th last and u guys 3rd last. Flip picks and we throw u Tanev and you throw 2nd. Deal?
- Bieksa#3


Steep. Especially if someone reaches for Fleury or Ritchie. But that's probably what it would take for the Oilers to consider.
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:20 PM ET
Loose use of the word "great" there.



Gagner blows, Oilers should definitely trade him.

- Nucker101


Agreed, but then again I don't think Ekblad is going to be a great NHL defender either.

Gags doesn't blow, but he isn't what this team needs. He would look better on a different team like San Jose for example.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:22 PM ET
Agreed, but then again I don't think Ekblad is going to be a great NHL defender either.
- Jeropotato

As somebody who has seen him live about a dozen times. He is 10x the player Nurse is(I know its clearly hate) I actually think Ekblad is the best defense prospect since Pronger
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
Agreed, but then again I don't think Ekblad is going to be a great NHL defender either.

Gags doesn't blow, but he isn't what this team needs. He would look better on a different team like San Jose for example.

- Jeropotato

Given his contract, I'm not sure edm can give him away (say 4th-7th rounder) let alone get anything of value. Unless they absorb close to half of it
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
As somebody who has seen him live about a dozen times. He is 10x the player Nurse is(I know its clearly hate) I actually think Ekblad is the best defense prospect since Pronger
- Bieksa#3


Really. I hear stuff like that from posters, but I also heard Bob Mackenzie say after his scouts poll that he was good at a lot of things, not great at any, and the closest comparison he made was to Chris Philips. Of course, you saw him play 12 times so...
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:27 PM ET
Given his contract, I'm not sure edm can give him away (say 4th-7th rounder) let alone get anything of value. Unless they absorb close to half of it
- Bieksa#3


Maybe. I think your hating a bit now.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
Really. I hear stuff like that from posters, but I also heard Bob Mackenzie say after his scouts poll that he was good at a lot of things, not great at any, and the closest comparison he made was to Chris Philips. Of course, you saw him play 12 times so...
- Jeropotato

I guess time will tell. Looked awful good as a under age defense at the WjHC. But that's routine I guess
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 5 @ 10:31 PM ET
Maybe. I think your hating a bit now.
- Jeropotato

I'll get boinker in here to tell you booth can get us Crosby. Then you say Gagner is worth Karlsson and so on
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:33 PM ET
I'll get boinker in here to tell you booth can get us Crosby. Then you say Gagner is worth Karlsson and so on
- Bieksa#3


I'll pass. I don't think Gags will get us great return, but maybe a useful 3rd line winger that we could use. Might be one of those contract for contract deals.
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:34 PM ET
I guess time will tell. Looked awful good as a under age defense at the WjHC. But that's routine I guess
- Bieksa#3

Remeber how good eric and Jack Johnson looked at the WJHC's?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 10:36 PM ET
Well played.

Let me try. Canucks have a far better core of young players. Not even debatable, I suppose an inbred person may argue it but........

- Bieksa#3

But u don't have a better core of young players. And we do have a better goaltending tandem presently.

I think it's fairly similar to an overall team debate.

Oiler fans can argue potential and future all we want.
But The nucks are without question the better team presently. And we may never reach that potential.
Same goes for lack and markstrom.

As of today; fasth and scrivens >> lack and markstrom
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:36 PM ET
Remeber how good eric and Jack Johnson looked at the WJHC's?
- Jeropotato


Ryan Parent with Marc Staal too. And our boy Jordan Schroeder. It's too small of a sample size.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
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Apr 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
Remeber how good eric and Jack Johnson looked at the WJHC's?
- Jeropotato

They didn't look good on my TV
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
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Apr 5 @ 10:39 PM ET
They didn't look good on my TV
- Bieksa#3

Erik didn't??!

Dude was phenomenal. Big, fantastic skater, strong both ways, able to carry the play.
Hindsight's 20/20, but him going first was far from a stretch at the time
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
They didn't look good on my TV
- Bieksa#3


Malarkey.Those guys were dominant. Unless you saw something that no one else did and absolutely knew their NHL careers would end up underwhelming.
Jeropotato
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Apr 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
Ryan Parent with Marc Staal too. And our boy Jordan Schroeder. It's too small of a sample size.
- Nucker101


What ever happened to Ricky Schroeder anyhow? Last year there was a lot of buzz about him on these boards.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
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Apr 5 @ 10:46 PM ET
Malarkey.Those guys were dominant. Unless you saw something that no one else did and absolutely knew their NHL careers would end up underwhelming.
- Jeropotato

Just for arguments sake; certainly not ahead of toews, but ej is having a very strong year and coming into his own as a true top pairing guy
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 5 @ 10:52 PM ET
Malarkey.Those guys were dominant. Unless you saw something that no one else did and absolutely knew their NHL careers would end up underwhelming.
- Jeropotato

Not really. Historically its a tourny where young d men struggle.

Trouba 2 yrs ago was hands down the most dominati g d man I've seen in it
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