IF Gillis is the only one fired, Torts will likely sit in on and have a say in the GM hiring process & IMO that can't happen. 1 step forward 10 steps back. Both need to go.
- DrChristianTroy

I am not into stepping over a dollar to make a dime. Doesn't make sense to me. I am not against Gillis staying. From the sound of things he has been getting pushed pretty around by ownership pretty good. I am not a fan of ownership playing to big a part in team affairs. I think their involvement has gotten very progressive since the cup final.

Gillis President: okay
Lorne AVP: okay
Hextall GM: yes
Naslund AGM (PR move to drive ticket sales and prices): would you really buy more tickets with Naslund in the fold? He was a great player but he's not Linden and was never really a heart and soul guy. I like him but wouldn't buy a ticket just because his name is on the website.
Gillman AGM (cap only): seems good enough at that job
Gary Roberts Player Development and Pro scout: will never happen. Gary hates the Canucks for their treatment of Cody.
Gully HC: don't care either way. next year isn't a cup year anyway.
Dineen Assistant (pp specialist): why? because the canadian women scored a few pp goals?
- therealagent

I don't think the Canucks faithful would appreciate another "we choked" routine from Naslund.

Gillis President: okay
Lorne AVP: okay
Hextall GM: yes
Naslund AGM (PR move to drive ticket sales and prices): would you really buy more tickets with Naslund in the fold? He was a great player but he's not Linden and was never really a heart and soul guy. I like him but wouldn't buy a ticket just because his name is on the website.
Gillman AGM (cap only): seems good enough at that job
Gary Roberts Player Development and Pro scout: will never happen. Gary hates the Canucks for their treatment of Cody.
Gully HC: don't care either way. next year isn't a cup year anyway.
Dineen Assistant (pp specialist): why? because the canadian women scored a few pp goals?
- therealagent

Naslund and Hextall would be an interesting tandem. Don't any of this taking place but one thing I do know is there does need to be a President. A buffer between ownership and GM is a must.

I don't think the Canucks faithful would appreciate another "we choked" routine from Naslund.
- docmorgan

That would be pretty awesome though if he said this team choked when he gets introduced.

What would a guy like Bob Nicholson bring to an organization? He seems to be pretty well respected.

That would be pretty awesome though if he said this team choked when he gets introduced.

What would a guy like Bob Nicholson bring to an organization? He seems to be pretty well respected.
- therealagent

He seems to be more president material based on his profile. Will probably end up in Toronto unless Gretz gets there first.

He seems to be more president material based on his profile. Will probably end up in Toronto unless Gretz gets there first.
- therealagent

I don't see Gretz going to any city with the amount of crazy hockey media like TO or Van. Not his style.

That would be pretty awesome though if he said this team choked when he gets introduced.

What would a guy like Bob Nicholson bring to an organization? He seems to be pretty well respected.
- therealagent

I know he was one of the head guys for Team Canada, but winning Gold medals as the favourite in pretty much all competitions doesn't impress me enough to warrant a GM job. Would much rather prefer David McNab.


I've seen people here and at HF mention Rick Dudley as so I looked up his history and came up with this post.....

I remember Dudley traded 3 first overall picks when he was GM.

-The famous Patrick Stefan trade for 1999 first round pick (#4-Pavel Brendl), two 1999 third round picks (probably #75-Brett Scheffelmaier) (#88-Jimmie Olvestad).

-Then he traded Dan Cloutier, Niklas Sundstrom, 2000 first round pick (#8-Nikita Alexeev), 2000 third round pick (#74-Igor Radulov) for 1999 first round pick (#4-Pavel Brendl).

-Then he traded for Andrei Zyuzin, Bill Houlder, Shawn Burr, Steve Guolla in exchange for Niklas Sundstrom, 2000 third round pick (#74-Igor Radulov)

He knew both Stefan and Brendl were busts!! Zyuzin, Houlder, Burr, Guolla and Cloutier were good for Tampa's early years.


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2002 first round pick (#3-Jay Bouwmeester), Panthers option to swap 2003 first round picks (not exercised) for 2002 first round pick (#1-Rick Nash), Panthers option to swap 2003 first round picks (not exercised)

He sent the Thrashers promise not to draft Jay Bouwmeester #2 overall in 2002 NHL draft 2002 third round pick (#82-John Adams), 2003 fourth round pick (#116-Guillaume Desbiens)

Basically he traded Nash, 3rd round, 4th round for Bouwmeester.

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He got Mikael Samuelsson, 2003 first round pick (#3-Nathan Horton), 2003 second round pick (#55-Stefan Meyer) for 2003 first round pick (#1-Marc-Andre Fleury), 2003 third round pick (#73-Daniel Carcillo / Dan Carcillo).

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Here you go folks, the only GM to trade 3 first overall picks.
Had he kept those picks he would have gotten:
Eric Staal (Center)
Henrik Sedin (Center)
Rick Nash (forward)

So you be the judge

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And another post which is more positive.

I was just looking over Rick Dudley's resume. He took the reins of the Thrashers on April 14th, 2010. He was only GM for 13 months and here is his body of work:

- He acquired Andrew Ladd from Chicago for a 2nd round draft pick and a career AHLer.

- He acquired Dustin Byfuglien (along with Brent Sopel, Ben Eager and Akim Aliu) from Chicago for Marty Reasoner, Joey Crabb, Jeremy Morin, the 24th pick of the 2010 draft (Kevin Hayes) and the 54th pick of the 2010 draft (Justin Holl).

- He acquired Blake Wheeler and Mark Stuart from Boston for Rich Peverley and Boris Valabik, who looks to be a career AHLer.

- In his only draft as GM, he picked Alexander Burmistrov 8th overall. He also drafted Ivan Telegin in the 4th round and Fredrik Petterson-Wentzel in the 5th round.

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Thats an impressive resume by almost any standard. When you consider that he did all that in 13 months is pretty much astounding.

Bonus Trivia: guess which current Jets GM was part of the Chicago outfit that got hosed for Ladd and Buff?
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Not sold on him personally.

I don't see Gretz going to any city with the amount of crazy hockey media like TO or Van. Not his style.
- thundachunk

The only position I'd want him in is President just to sell tickets and attract players. I don' trust him as a coach or player evaluator at all. Not sure why everyone always assumes that great players will make great coaches/gm's.

I know he was one of the head guys for Team Canada, but winning Gold medals as the favourite in pretty much all competitions doesn't impress me enough to warrant a GM job. Would much rather prefer David McNab.


I've seen people here and at HF mention Rick Dudley as so I looked up his history and came up with this post.....






Not sold on him at all.
- Nucker101

I want no part of DUDley either.

Come to think of it, this team was much better when we had a different blogger.

Coincidence? Who is the real devil

The only position I'd want him in is President just to sell tickets and attract players. I don' trust him as a coach or player evaluator at all. Not sure why everyone always assumes that great players will make great coaches/gm's.
- Nucker101

He saw the game better than any other player in history. Doesn't mean his player evaluation and scouting is better than others. I wouldn't say he is not a great hockey mind but to step back for so long tells me his heart was on the ice not in the press box.

With the 19th pick, Anaheim took Ryan Getzlaf, a big, skilled centerman from the Calgary Hitman. As current Ducks assistant GM David McNab recalls, the rest of the first round, the Ducks’ scouting staff was convinced “there was one premier player left in the draft — Corey Perry,” a big power winger from the London Knights.

So Bryan Murray began frantically calling teams, offering two second-round picks to each for another first-round pick. Finally, the Dallas Stars, who liked Loui Eriksson, made the move, giving Anaheim the 28th pick for two seconds.

“We wouldn’t have done it if Perry was gone,” McNab said before scouting Thursday’s Wild-Oilers game.

This guy though.


And an older article on him: http://www.anaheimcalling...86/duck-tales-david-mcnab

Who do you think is going to fall in TO when the Leafs don't make it?
- docmorgan

hoping Carlyle - not a fan....wouldn't shed a tear if it was Nonis as well.

hoping Carlyle - not a fan....wouldn't shed a tear if it was Nonis as well.
- BlowMonkey

Nonis is safe IMO. He's the "yes man" for MLSE. I saw a quote today on twitter where Tim Leiweke said that he told Nonis to go hard after Bernier. Probably did the same with Clarkson.

hoping Carlyle - not a fan....wouldn't shed a tear if it was Nonis as well.
- BlowMonkey

There's going to be a market for GMs this summer.

Calgary - only one for sure
Carolina - probably
Vancouver - deserves to be fired
Toronto - deserves to be fired
Washington - deserves to be fired
Islanders - deserves to be fired
Philly - time for homer to move on in order to keep hex?

There's going to be a market for GMs this summer.

Calgary - only one for sure
Carolina - probably
Vancouver - deserves to be fired
Toronto - deserves to be fired
Washington - deserves to be fired
Islanders - deserves to be fired
Philly - time for homer to move on in order to keep hex?
- therealagent

Flames, Canes, Caps will be the 3 IMO. Maybe the Isles if they're sold.

The only position I'd want him in is President just to sell tickets and attract players. I don' trust him as a coach or player evaluator at all. Not sure why everyone always assumes that great players will make great coaches/gm's.
- Nucker101

I agree, seems to me a lot of the more successful coaches and gm's tend to have been bench warmer fringe players, i guess cause they got to spend a lot of time watching vs playing at the top level.

Kesler to #TEAM1040 on future in Van: "I love it here. I've already paid for private school. We're planning on coming back next year"

Gillis President: okay
Lorne AVP: okay
Hextall GM: yes
Naslund AGM (PR move to drive ticket sales and prices): would you really buy more tickets with Naslund in the fold? He was a great player but he's not Linden and was never really a heart and soul guy. I like him but wouldn't buy a ticket just because his name is on the website.
Gillman AGM (cap only): seems good enough at that job
Gary Roberts Player Development and Pro scout: will never happen. Gary hates the Canucks for their treatment of Cody.
Gully HC: don't care either way. next year isn't a cup year anyway.
Dineen Assistant (pp specialist): why? because the canadian women scored a few pp goals?
- therealagent

Naslund can be the buffer. Liked by players. Players around the league respect him. Can attract FA and is a hero coming home story.
Roberts- Cody thing happened ages ago. He is no longer part of the organization. All the more reason to come here and ensure that players are developed properly.
Dineen (because he was always an offensive minded player. We need to stop getting retired D-men to coach powerplays) We need people that understand offense, knows different setups from experience in playing and coaching. He was also a very successful coach in the minors. Will be able to develop the younger players properly.

Kesler to #TEAM1040 on future in Van: "I love it here. I've already paid for private school. We're planning on coming back next year"



- Nucker101

Torts is gone.

Kesler to #TEAM1040 on future in Van: "I love it here. I've already paid for private school. We're planning on coming back next year"



- Nucker101

Ouch he has already paid for private school. Hope that 10k in private school fees is refundable.

Come to think of it, this team was much better when we had a different blogger.

Coincidence? Who is the real devil
- therealagent

How my emotions changed when I realized that you could be onto something here.

Even if Torts is fired, I want Kesler gone for a young NHL center who's capable of distributing the puck better, or a great young winger - and a pick of course.

I just think MG has had his chances already and his time is up. If they gave Torts a five year contract then I think he deserves a bit more time and a chance to change his style and see where the team goes. I recall AV was very defensive-minded in his first couple of years and was asked to play more up-temple offensive hockey and that turned into the great 2010-2012 seasons.
- Sashimi23

Yeah.... That's a great way to waste the Sedins remaining productive years. I am not watching another year of Torts hockey.

C for sure, WTF was Gilles thinking bringing in a guy like torts,Van is and was a very high skilled club ,you dont try and turn offensive stars like the twins,kessler,etc into grinders and shot blockers .Its a huge waste of their skill
- top shelf 15

I am not sure where you have been, but it's been well documented that Torts was not Gillis hire. Do you even follow hockey.... BRO???