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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 6 @ 2:02 AM ET
Call Luongo, he'll pump that up for you
- 1970vintage


Better to go local and call Vantel and his bevy of Filipina minstrels
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 4:25 AM ET
What's the cause?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Be-cause.
KOS
Vancouver Canucks
Location: United States, TX
Joined: 01.14.2008

Apr 6 @ 9:10 AM ET
I said FUCTIONAL strength & speed. Even if the human body can go several steps further, what kind of cognitive development/evolution is needed for the brain to keep up.
- DrChristianTroy


Ok. I get what you said (as long as you mean functional and not fuctional) and I still do not agree at all. All that means is if they can use it or not. If they have it they can use it. Becoming stronger faster and even more skilled is learned.

None. The brain development and potential is there already. Actually cognitive mapping tests show it to be well beyond capable of most anything we do today. And those test are based solely on what we know today, so there is even a flaw in that cognitively speaking.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
That one felt good -
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
What a downer -
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
What a downer -
- Jim_Robson

Drafting high is nice, but it's a longer term solution. Lots can happen between the end of the season and draft day.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
Drafting high is nice, but it's a longer term solution. Lots can happen between the end of the season and draft day.
- LeftCoaster


Yeah. It's hard to gage where we'll actually end up.
At least Kes looked good last night and I'm glad Lack's happy... "Ehhh, Ehhh. It's huge. It keeps our season alive."
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:05 AM ET
Drafting high is nice, but it's a longer term solution. Lots can happen between the end of the season and draft day.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah but the could be missing out on a key piece by drafting lower.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yeah. It's hard to gage where we'll actually end up.
At least Kes looked good last night and I'm glad Lack's happy... "Ehhh, Ehhh. It's huge. It keeps our season alive."

- Jim_Robson

I would go with Lack and Markstrom next year. Rollie has the whole summer to work with the two and 1.5 mil for both goalies is a bargain. Just put a solid D in front of them.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:11 AM ET
Yeah but the could be missing out on a key piece by drafting lower.
- VANTEL

You can trade for a higher pick, that's allowed you know
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
You can trade for a higher pick, that's allowed you know
- LeftCoaster

Wasted asset. If we lost we draft at that higher spot and could use a guy say like Edler for another top 6 hockey trade.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
Wasted asset. If we lost we draft at that higher spot and could use a guy say like Edler for another top 6 pick .
- VANTEL

Never a wasted asset, for shame! It's called asset management. Trading Kesler for a quality young center and a draft pick would do wonders for the future. (Anaheim?)

Players could give a flying (frank) about draft position, I wish you guys would get that thru your thick skulls

A rolling stone never collects the moss...remember?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:33 AM ET
Never a wasted asset, for shame! It's called asset management. Trading Kesler for a quality young center and a draft pick would do wonders for the future. (Anaheim?)

Players could give a flying (frank) about draft position, I wish you guys would get that thru your thick skulls

A rolling stone never collects the moss...remember?

- LeftCoaster



Players don't care about draft positions , but players come and go, it is the fans that stay around for years and years. We are the ones that care. How many of this core will be moved in the offseason?

It is a wasted asset. Instead of having two assets coming back we would be trading up a valuable asset to move up 5 or 6 spots. Having the number 6 spot you could draft a valuable piece and make a separate trade for Edler.in most cases the higher the pick the better the player.

Keslers trade is is a. Separate issue. If he gets a prospect and a pick then we get four players my way. Three players your way.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Apr 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
Never a wasted asset, for shame! It's called asset management. Trading Kesler for a quality young center and a draft pick would do wonders for the future. (Anaheim?)

Players could give a flying (frank) about draft position, I wish you guys would get that thru your thick skulls

A rolling stone never collects the moss...remember?

- LeftCoaster


Joey Moss? That guy's a beauty!
It's true. We should be cheering for strong play and bad bounces.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
Players don't care about draft positions , but players come and go, it is the fans that stay around for years and years. We are the ones that care. How many of this core will be moved in the offseason?

It is a wasted asset. Instead of having two assets coming back we would be trading up a valuable asset to move up 5 or 6 spots. Having the number 6 spot you could draft a valuable piece and make a separate trade for Edler.in most cases the higher the pick the better the player.

Keslers trade is is a. Separate issue. If he gets a prospect and a pick then we get four players my way. Three players your way.

- VANTEL

Quality is better than quantity. Fully understand you guys wanting a better draft position, I know it helps the future, that said, I can never ever bring myself to hoping they lose. I loved seeing them win last night!

Facts are the team needs a shakeup, trading a core memeber such as Kesler should be done regardless, so having assets come back in the way of a good young player and a draft pick is a win win in my books. They can pick up a good player in the top ten!
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 6 @ 11:44 AM ET
I would go with Lack and Markstrom next year. Rollie has the whole summer to work with the two and 1.5 mil for both goalies is a bargain. Just put a solid D in front of them.
- VANTEL


BINGO. Solidify the D Core.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
Lefty, here is an example of what we are discussing , I will bring it back a year to the 2013 draft to paint the picture of our discussion.
This is assuming we finished 9 th last year are were looking to trade up to second or third.

Canucks get Bartov or Drouin and give up give up Edler and our 9th.

If Canucks finished 6 th we keep Horvat or Monahan drafted 6th.
Edler gets traded to Detroit for Nyquist Tartar and a first

Which one is a better deal?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:49 AM ET
Quality is better than quantity. Fully understand you guys wanting a better draft position, I know it helps the future, that said, I can never ever bring myself to hoping they lose. I loved seeing them win last night!

Facts are the team needs a shakeup, trading a core memeber such as Kesler should be done regardless, so having assets come back in the way of a good young player and a draft pick is a win win in my books. They can pick up a good player in the top ten!

- LeftCoaster

Agree about trading the core.

We both know my cuts would be deeper but we agree upon major shake up needed
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Apr 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
Missed the game - what was the unsportsmanlike on Quick about?
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Apr 6 @ 11:56 AM ET

- Nucker101

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
BINGO. Solidify the D Core.
- rugdnit

Canucks should target Engelland this summer . Nice cheap 5/6 pick up
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
Lefty, here is an example of what we are discussing , I will bring it back a year to the 2013 draft to paint the picture of our discussion.
This is assuming we finished 9 th last year are were looking to trade up to second or third.

Canucks get Bartov or Drouin and give up give up Edler and our 9th.

If Canucks finished 6 th we keep Horvat or Monahan drafted 6th.
Edler gets traded to Detroit for Nyquist Tartar and a first

Which one is a better deal?

- VANTEL


Losing is for losers, no thanks. Breed a culture of winners, do your homework and find the players that your organization needs most, make a trade sending an established player out when need be to upgrade your selection. Canucks should have a scout at every game everywhere every night.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
Missed the game - what was the unsportsmanlike on Quick about?
- docmorgan

Someone kicked his vagina and he got all pissy about it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Losing is for losers, no thanks. Breed a culture of winners, do your homework and find the players that your organization needs most, make a trade sending an established player out when need be to upgrade your selection. Canucks should have a scout at every game everywhere every night.
- 1970vintage

If you're not cheating ,you're not trying.

Sometimes you have to dip your hand in the basket when no one is looking and do something a little shady.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Lefty, here is an example of what we are discussing , I will bring it back a year to the 2013 draft to paint the picture of our discussion.
This is assuming we finished 9 th last year are were looking to trade up to second or third.

Canucks get Bartov or Drouin and give up give up Edler and our 9th.

If Canucks finished 6 th we keep Horvat or Monahan drafted 6th.
Edler gets traded to Detroit for Nyquist Tartar and a first

Which one is a better deal?

- VANTEL


Last year trading Schneider because we had Lu is good asset management, although he should have done it the year before. That's what I'm talking about. Two picks in a good draft year and we got two good prospects.

Why are we giving up our 9th overall? Here's the way I see it, we finish this year in 8th, plus, we trade Kesler to say Anaheim for the 5th overall and Etem (hypothetical). Or we trade Kesler to Chicago for their first round pick (high 1st) Teravainen and a prospect? Two 1st's again!

We've got Horvat, Hank, Mathhias and Richardson down the middle as of right now. Love the possibilities!!
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