When you say his detractors simply had it wrong, be sure to lump in Berube for playing him out of position for half a season, and the Flyers crack medical staff for allowing him to play with what was diagnosed as back spasms, when it was a fracture.

- PLindbergh31

Just because Berube played him at LW doesn't make him a detractor. In fact Berube was asked about Lecavalier recently, and he said to paraphrase, that he never thought he wasn't a big part of the team. So labeling Berube a Lecavalier detractor, is false.
I don't have any factual information to his diagnosis, nor am I a Doctor who could speak to any medical malpractice in that situation. If you have that expertise, or information, feel free to share it.

I doubt the injury the had much to do with it. He sat for over 3 weeks during the Olympic break to return to play. He never officially said that he was dealing with an injury.
- FlyersSteve118

Lecavalier suffered a back fracture this season. That's a fact. And it was obvious it affected his play this Season.

Lecavalier suffered a back fracture this season. That's a fact. And it was obvious it affected his play this Season.
- MJL

After the Olympic break there is no way he could have still been dealing with that injury.

I can't even argue with you about this anymore.
- PhillySportsGuy

...Is it safe to come out? The Vinny debate has been put to bed?

After the Olympic break there is no way he could have still been dealing with that injury.
- FlyersSteve118

Even though I think this argument is extremely played out. I will comment that this particular post is patently ridiculous.

After the Olympic break there is no way he could have still been dealing with that injury.
- FlyersSteve118

Dont get him going

...Is it safe to come out? The Vinny debate has been put to bed?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

"I can't argue about this any more" translates as, hmmm, what is the next way I can argue about this. So no, I'm sure it will not be put to rest until Vinny is in Grant's tomb.

...Is it safe to come out? The Vinny debate has been put to bed?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

I'm done arguing it. I can't speak for anyone else.

After the Olympic break there is no way he could have still been dealing with that injury.
- FlyersSteve118

Why is that? I think it was obvious that as the Season went along, he was getting stronger and stronger on his skates. And a clear difference could be seen in his play.

"I can't argue about this any more" translates as, hmmm, what is the next way I can argue about this. So no, I'm sure it will not be put to rest until Vinny is in Grant's tomb.
- bodiva88

Someone else will take up the argument. I personally just ignore MJL's (some of) points on Vinny because I know neither of us will agree and its not worth my time arguing with a brick wall

I'm done arguing it. I can't speak for anyone else.
- PhillySportsGuy

Good. I think the Vinny debate has surpassed the Grossmann debate levels. New Topic?

Good. I think the Vinny debate has surpassed the Grossmann debate levels. New Topic?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

We can argue Streit. Thats always a good one too.

We can argue Streit. Thats always a good one too.
- PhillySportsGuy

How about debating the shootout and alternate ideas for the umpteenth time?

Even though I think this argument is extremely played out. I will comment that this particular post is patently ridiculous.
- bodiva88

An injury so severe that he is capable of playing hockey through? Ok. Your post is "patently ridiculous". Which makes absolutely no sense. Btw.

I was just saying that I thought the position he was playing was the main reason for his slump. I wasn't really trying to argue anything.

We can argue Streit. Thats always a good one too.
- PhillySportsGuy

Meh. Most of the people who were against Streit agree that he has played well even if his contract is a little long. Though at the beginning of the season that was a good one.

Oh I know... We could always argue Politics?

/Sarcasm
//Please Dont

Good. I think the Vinny debate has surpassed the Grossmann debate levels. New Topic?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Oreos? Cookie or cream filling?

Im a cookie guy myself. The cream is just a compliment in my eyes.

How about debating the shootout and alternate ideas for the umpteenth time?
- MJL

That has been debated too much, but the reason it hasnt reached Vinny/Grossmann levels is that everyone here hates the shootout so there is no opposition to argue with. Its just people saying they dislike it, that it should be changed, and throwing out an idea. No controversy.

We can argue Streit. Thats always a good one too.
- PhillySportsGuy

Hoagies vs Subs
With vs without
tomato vs tomahto
coke vs pepsi
dogs vs cats
spy vs spy

the possibilities are endless!

Meh. Most of the people who were against Streit agree that he has played well even if his contract is a little long. Though at the beginning of the season that was a good one.

Oh I know... We could always argue Politics?

/Sarcasm
//Please Dont
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Streit has played better than I was expecting. He's done some nice things. Closing in on 40 points. I think if he would have got more PP time with the first unit, his point total would be near 50. In today's NHL 50 points for a dman is a big offensive season.

I still get nervous with him in the defensive zone, but he's played well for the most part.

Oreos? Cookie or cream filling?

Im a cookie guy myself. The cream is just a compliment in my eyes.
- FlyersSteve118

cream filling makes the cookie!

Oreos? Cookie or cream filling?

Im a cookie guy myself. The cream is just a compliment in my eyes.
- FlyersSteve118

Oreo milkshakes are so good.

Meh. Most of the people who were against Streit agree that he has played well even if his contract is a little long. Though at the beginning of the season that was a good one.

Oh I know... We could always argue Politics?

/Sarcasm
//Please Dont
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Assuming the playoffs started today, who do you have winning each series?

CBJ @ Boston
Detroit @ Pitt
Tampa @ Montreal
Flyers @ NYR

Dallas @ St. Louis
Minnesota @ Anaheim
Chicago @ Colorado
LA @ San Jose

Streit has played better than I was expecting. He's done some nice things. Closing in on 40 points. I think if he would have got more PP time with the first unit, his point total would be near 50. In today's NHL 50 points for a dman is a big offensive season.

I still get nervous with him in the defensive zone, but he's played well for the most part.
- PLindbergh31

Flyers haven't received goal scoring from their defense in a while. Although that Mark Streit pass last night almost makes up for it.

Assuming the playoffs started today, who do you have winning each series?

CBJ @ Boston
Detroit @ Pitt
Tampa @ Montreal
Flyers @ NYR

Dallas @ St. Louis
Minnesota @ Anaheim
Chicago @ Colorado
LA @ San Jose
- PhillySportsGuy

Boston
Pitt
Tampa
NYR
St. Louis
Minn.
Colorado
LA

Flyers haven't received goal scoring from their defense in a while. Although that Mark Streit pass last night almost makes up for it.
- FlyersSteve118

I think the Flyers have 31 goals from their defense core. I think that is somewhere in the top half of teams in the NHL.