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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
The south really isn't bad. They are pretty friendly. Many of them can be condescending about your beliefs, but if you choose to ignore it, you can have a good time.

If you're in Texas and you tell them you're an atheist, they'll just say "Oh, well, nobody is perfect. Here, have some more food."

- PhillySportsGuy


I was in Nashville, and actually found everyone to be friendly (aside from a group of guys from NY I almost had to fight for wearing my Flyers' coat).
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
Maybe poking him in the butt check turns his legs off? You're giving away playoff secrets man.

keep it on the down low.

- mayorofangrytown


Haha
You guys see this KHL playoff goal by Geoff Platt?
Great eye-hand coordination.

FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
If there's anyone on this site that's going to get me banned

So help me god

- Giroux_Is_God


What? You dont like Ekblad for Laughton + 3 First Round Picks

Think about it: Ekblad - Morin
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
Huh. I forgot about their lack of defense. I dont think that Holland is going to pony up and do it though. I think they would go after a cheaper option. Probably Anton Stralman, and not just because he is swedish. God knows they are going to ditch Quincey

I would rather have Timmonen for another year at 6M then Niskanen for 6+ years at that price. If Timmonen does retire I would pursue Niskanen but I wouldnt get into any bidding wars, which would probably mean he wouldnt sign with us.

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Yeah. I think Niskanen goes for more than $6M. The market is pretty empty at this point.

I liked Girardi the most and Niskanen the second most. After that, I went Markov, Boyle then MacDonald.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
I would still love to move salary and make a play for Niskanen. I really think he's a good player. Right handed shot, two way player and just hitting his prime.

I know others aren't thrilled with the risk and bust potential.

- PhillySportsGuy

I'd be OK with that. They would have to trade Grossmann or LSchenn and maybe a forward to fit him into the salary cap.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
Haha
You guys see this KHL playoff goal by Geoff Platt?
Great eye-hand coordination.


- Pixote Andolini

lacrosse quick stick
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
I was in Nashville, and actually found everyone to be friendly (aside from a group of guys from NY I almost had to fight for wearing my Flyers' coat).
- jmatchett383


Southerners are very friendly. There are just small segments who are incredibly racist and ignorant who make the south look completely backwards. Most of those people are found in places you would never visit anyway.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
6 year deal is kind of like a NTC.

Aight figure, too many years. Not bad.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
Yeah. I think Niskanen goes for more than $6M. The market is pretty empty at this point.

I liked Girardi the most and Niskanen the second most. After that, I went Markov, Boyle then MacDonald.

- PhillySportsGuy


And Shea Weber???
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
colorado is a good choice. hes young enough to grow with their young core. detroit could use him as well. i still wouldnt rule the flyers out.

i dont think he is going to be a 60 point guy, but if whatever team uses him lets him be on the first powerplay unit, he can certainly handle it. decent distributing skills, nice shot. hes actually shown a bit of physicality this season as well, which was utterly lacking last year (especially in the playoffs). i think this postseason is going to be big for him, to get a proper gauge on his true value.

the money for him is going to be there regardless, but ill wait until i see how he does in this postseason to see if hes worth the brinks truck hes gonna get.

- stayinthefnnet


Im sure his skills would be helpful on the Flyers but not at that price. I just dont remember being all that impressed with him until this season. If I am going to sign him for that much and for that long I would like to see a little more sustained results. Id rather wait it out. He sure is going to get paid. If he has a bad playoffs he could lose a little bit of that money though.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
The anchor known as VL and either Schenn or Grossmann.
- PhillySportsGuy


Are you trying to bait MJL into a VL Brawl?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
Southerners are very friendly. There are just small segments who are incredibly racist and ignorant who make the south look completely backwards. Most of those people are found in places you would never visit anyway.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, if you want to go trekking in the swamps, or go hiking in the mountains, or visit a Baptist Church, that's when you'll meet "those types."
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
I was in Nashville, and actually found everyone to be friendly (aside from a group of guys from NY I almost had to fight for wearing my Flyers' coat).
- jmatchett383


I don't understand this. I guess it's just dumb luck but I live in a Philly suburb and wear Rangers poop constantly and no one even says anything and I've seen the other way around too.

In fact after a playoff game verses the Caps a guy walked out in an Ovi jersey and people all around him were chanting at him and messing with him in a harmless way like jumping up and down near him when his glasses fell off. The crowd literally froze, one guy picked up his glasses handed to him and made sure he was ok an then began chanting again . Everything I've seen is always good natured.

Exception is in Newark. (frank) Devil Fans
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
I think he's a 4, but with a lot of versatility. He can be used in any situation whereas Streit is a 4, but should be sheltered in certain situations.
- PhillySportsGuy

like i said, i guess im just picking at semantics saying a guy is a three and not a four, since its the same pairing and whatnot. still, amac strikes me as a guy with more value than those who typically would be thought of in that level. his versatility is definitely apparent. in his limited time, he has shown an ability to take the reins of his pairing and make his partner better. good special teamer as well.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
And Shea Weber???
- jmatchett383


That was so two years ago. Why don't you buy some Sublime tickets and go write a movie script at Starbucks. Ugh.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think Streit/Amac would be a fine 2nd pair.

Coburn will still need someone to play with for first pair minutes.

Coburn/Grossmann or Coburn/Amac as the #1 pair doesn't make me too happy.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
Are you trying to bait MJL into a VL Brawl?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


No. Ive argued with him about VL for so long. I, LITERALLY, cannot add anything to the argument at this point.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:55 PM ET
Im sure his skills would be helpful on the Flyers but not at that price. I just dont remember being all that impressed with him until this season. If I am going to sign him for that much and for that long I would like to see a little more sustained results. Id rather wait it out. He sure is going to get paid. If he has a bad playoffs he could lose a little bit of that money though.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

i dont blame you for the apprehension. id have the same concerns. unfortunately, the market is going to provide guys like him insane amount of leverage. someone will gladly pony up to take the plunge. ive pretty much accepted the fact that he wont be on the pens next year.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:55 PM ET
I don't understand this. I guess it's just dumb luck but I live in a Philly suburb and wear Rangers poop constantly and no one even says anything and I've seen the other way around too.

In fact after a playoff game verses the Caps a guy walked out in an Ovi jersey and people all around him were chanting at him and messing with him in a harmless way like jumping up and down near him when his glasses fell off. The crowd literally froze, one guy picked up his glasses handed to him and made sure he was ok an then began chanting again . Everything I've seen is always good natured.

Exception is in Newark. (frank) Devil Fans

- mrhattrick27


Is it the Devils fans that you have trouble with in Newark or the people from the surrounding area? I hate the Devils as an organization and the team but dont really mind their fanbase too much...
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:55 PM ET
Shea Weber will never be a Philadelphia Flyer.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
No. Ive argued with him about VL for so long. I, LITERALLY, cannot add anything to the argument at this point.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hallelujah. Im sure he can add to his argument though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
I don't understand this. I guess it's just dumb luck but I live in a Philly suburb and wear Rangers poop constantly and no one even says anything and I've seen the other way around too.

In fact after a playoff game verses the Caps a guy walked out in an Ovi jersey and people all around him were chanting at him and messing with him in a harmless way like jumping up and down near him when his glasses fell off. The crowd literally froze, one guy picked up his glasses handed to him and made sure he was ok an then began chanting again . Everything I've seen is always good natured.

Exception is in Newark. (frank) Devil Fans

- mrhattrick27


That can't be. Don't you know that every Philadelphia sports fan in a heartless bastard just waiting to start a fistfight with any fan of any other team?

But really, I've actually only had real problems at a game with other Flyers fans. I ended up putting one in a chokehold at the end of Game 6 in 2009 because he and some buddies jumped some Penguins fans, who were actually nice guys (they sat next to me and were low key).

The incident in Nashville was at a club. It was a little chilly, so I wore a coat. Some bumhole from NY came up to me and gave me some poop about it, and I basically just ignored him, I didn't feel like getting arrested on vacation. Then the same guy bumped into my wife pretty hard twice (I didn't notice the first time), and she turned around and said something about it, and he got all riled up. I told him in no uncertain terms I was more than willing to beat the brakes off him if it happened again.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
Shea Weber will never be a Philadelphia Flyer.
- Pixote Andolini


We dont need him. We have Morin
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
Are you trying to bait MJL into a VL Brawl?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I'd love to bait MJL into a brawl period
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
like i said, i guess im just picking at semantics saying a guy is a three and not a four, since its the same pairing and whatnot. still, amac strikes me as a guy with more value than those who typically would be thought of in that level. his versatility is definitely apparent. in his limited time, he has shown an ability to take the reins of his pairing and make his partner better. good special teamer as well.
- stayinthefnnet


Yeah. The team is better off having him than not. The underlying issue is the team's inability to have ready defenseman in the farm system. Trading for defenseman or signing them in FA is very costly.

I'm just glad the team is finally on the right track to developing young defenseman.

There is no way to get good defenseman without parting with good players or overpaying. The deals for Coburn and Carle don't come along every year. People seem to think Homer can just pull one of those out of his hat at any time.
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