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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 5:12 PM ET
It's pretty easy to tell when people are actually being malicious or not.
- mrhattrick27


If you attend a Flyers/Penguins playoff game, expect to be called names, booed, pointed at, and probably for a few people to get in your space. It's the angry drunken ones (usually college kids or a bit older) you usually have to watch out for.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:12 PM ET
I agree.
- jmatchett383


What do you see Grossmann's value is?

A late 2nd? 2 3rds?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 5:13 PM ET
I don't think it rained. It was a day game, I think, but it could have rained. I mean, blowing that 3-0 lead to lose the series was rough, but I've never wanted to fight anyone over sports.
- jmatchett383

Yeah. That was a day game and not the night I was referencing. We tailgated after the Carcillo game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 5:14 PM ET
I think Lauridsen is played out. If he hasn't gotten a bigger taste at this point he isn't going to. Whatever his issues are they're keeping him in the AHL.

Why do you think he has any kind of track to a roster spot? I don't see it.

- mayorofangrytown


From what I heard, he was sent down to the AHL this year to work on solidifying his defensive game (which he has). I'm not sold on his short body of work from last year, but he has shown glimpses that he can hang. And if the Flyers wanted to replace one of Schenn/Grossmann with a cheap, physical, stay-at-home guy, he's as good of a bet as any. I'm not saying he's the second coming, but I think he'll be given a shot at camp, again, if one of them is moved.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:14 PM ET
Why would you think that is sarcasm. Engellend has extraordinary hockey sense and is always in control of his actions, never taking a bad late penalty. His toughness is essential to your team. Depres can only hope to be as good as Engellend but realistically he probably wont be able to reach that level. Not everybody can be that good.

/It's Sarcasm
//Or is it?

- FrmRusiaWifGlov

STAWP
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
If you attend a Flyers/Penguins playoff game, expect to be called names, booed, pointed at, and probably for a few people to get in your space. It's the angry drunken ones (usually college kids or a bit older) you usually have to watch out for.
- jmatchett383


I'm about to get a bit of a taste. 95% sure I'm going to game 3 haha
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
I think Lauridsen is played out. If he hasn't gotten a bigger taste at this point he isn't going to. Whatever his issues are they're keeping him in the AHL.

Why do you think he has any kind of track to a roster spot? I don't see it.

- mayorofangrytown


I think part of his issues is that he is a Defensive Defenseman on a team loaded with them. I think that he could be a good 6th or 7th. What do you see his issues as? I would like to know how the organization views him.

I think he could compete for one during camp. If he doesnt get up next season id say he's played out
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
What do you see Grossmann's value is?

A late 2nd? 2 3rds?

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


He won't get you a first, but something like what you said, maybe a 3rd and a prospect. Depends on the market.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 15 @ 5:16 PM ET
Shea Weber will never be a Philadelphia Flyer.
- Pixote Andolini

Not with that attitude he won't
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:16 PM ET
STAWP
- stayinthefnnet


Englland + Olli Maata for Matt Read

Were doing you a favor on this one.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 5:16 PM ET
I'm about to get a bit of a taste. 95% sure I'm going to game 3 haha
- mrhattrick27


Do you know where you'll be sitting. I'm in 211.

And honestly, I've never been to a Flyers/Rangers playoff game, but I assume it will actually be worse than a Flyers/Penguins playoff game. You will not be my friend that day.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
I think part of his issues is that he is a Defensive Defenseman on a team loaded with them. I think that he could be a good 6th or 7th. What do you see his issues as? I would like to know how the organization views him.

I think he could compete for one during camp. If he doesnt get up next season id say he's played out

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Kid is just not that good at hockey.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
It's pretty easy to tell when people are actually being malicious or not.
- mrhattrick27


i mean people's respective tolerance and color of humor can vary wildly. its a spectrum. a little boos here and there or innocent teasing or ribbing is one thing. but it can blur fairly quickly.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
From what I heard, he was sent down to the AHL this year to work on solidifying his defensive game (which he has). I'm not sold on his short body of work from last year, but he has shown glimpses that he can hang. And if the Flyers wanted to replace one of Schenn/Grossmann with a cheap, physical, stay-at-home guy, he's as good of a bet as any. I'm not saying he's the second coming, but I think he'll be given a shot at camp, again, if one of them is moved.
- jmatchett383

Okay, I just think as prospects go he kind of down there on the list at D. They don't even mention him anymore. Gostisbehere, Morin, Haag, Alt all seem to be ahead of him in the pecking order.

I've watched some Phantoms games and he really doesn't make his presense felt.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
He won't get you a first, but something like what you said, maybe a 3rd and a prospect. Depends on the market.
- jmatchett383


I agree. I really dont think the market is that great for aging defensive defenseman with bad knees and concussion problems. He is a warrior, blocks shots, and logs hard minutes which does play in his favor. Maybe you could swing something to a desperate team that misses out on free agents
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
Do you know where you'll be sitting. I'm in 211.

And honestly, I've never been to a Flyers/Rangers playoff game, but I assume it will actually be worse than a Flyers/Penguins playoff game. You will not be my friend that day.

- jmatchett383


I am just gonna snag tickets off stubhub once i find out who of my buddies will be joining. I will be looking at sections that are upper deck center ice. Never had a sight line issue there yet.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
I agree. I really dont think the market is that great for aging defensive defenseman with bad knees and concussion problems. He is a warrior, blocks shots, and logs hard minutes which does play in his favor. Maybe you could swing something to a desperate team that misses out on free agents
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

christ. murray got a pair of seconds, and grossmann is better than him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
i mean people's respective tolerance and color of humor can vary wildly. its a spectrum. a little boos here and there or innocent teasing or ribbing is one thing. but it can blur fairly quickly.
- stayinthefnnet


Haha, when I went to Washington and made the announcement that most people in there must not like teams that had actually won a Stanley Cup, several patrons got quite uppity with me. One of my favorites was, "Yeah, well how many Super Bowls have you won!?" to which I replied, "None, I've never played football. How many have you won!?" He didn't quite know what to say, so went with the good old, "Shut the (frank) up, wussy!"
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
I can see either Grossmann or L Schenn getting moved, which would give Lauridsen the inside track on earning a spot.
- jmatchett383


Definitely Grossman, cant imagine Schenn goes anywhere based solely off his age alone.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
Kid is just not that good at hockey.
- Tomahawk


Oliver Ekeman Lauridsen is great hockey player. But honestly no he isnt but I think he could maybe be a 7th guy. Getting anything out of the 7th round is nice
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
Do you know where you'll be sitting. I'm in 211.

And honestly, I've never been to a Flyers/Rangers playoff game, but I assume it will actually be worse than a Flyers/Penguins playoff game. You will not be my friend that day.

- jmatchett383


Honestly I think I've had it a bit easy in the past because I have gone to a few with my girlfriend and usually no one is that big of a douche to start poop with a girl at one of these games. But hey, we will see. I'm debating whether to wear my 'Nova hat as a sign of peace
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
Kid is just not that good at hockey.
- Tomahawk


I just received a message from the Lauridson Fan Club. It reads "(frank) Tomahawk"
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
Okay, I just think as prospects go he kind of down there on the list at D. They don't even mention him anymore. Gostisbehere, Morin, Haag, Alt all seem to be ahead of him in the pecking order.

I've watched some Phantoms games and he really doesn't make his presense felt.

- mayorofangrytown


To be fair, he plays on the Phantoms.

He's probably the most polished of any of the guys in our system. Two of him, Gus, and Alt need to be our 7th and 8th dmen next year. It would be fantastic if one of them could land a role as a regular.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
christ. murray got a pair of seconds, and grossmann is better than him.
- stayinthefnnet


Shero overpaid. Murray was also an upcoming free agent. Grossmann is signed to a deal which might not work to his favor.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
If you attend a Flyers/Penguins playoff game, expect to be called names, booed, pointed at, and probably for a few people to get in your space. It's the angry drunken ones (usually college kids or a bit older) you usually have to watch out for.
- jmatchett383

some of this is okay. some of this definitely isnt. if im just sitting there watching the game, the last one isnt.

granted, some people bring things on themselves, regardless of what team sweater they have on.
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