ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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And Stolarz contract did slide. So it's age related. - MJL
It depends because once a player reaches 20 he is an overage player in juniors and each team is only allowed so many as the season goes along. So at some point if no team has room for one AHL is the option. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yea, a Rangers prospect left the NCAA this year to go play Juniors. But he was under a professional NHL contract, so I'm not sure if he can sign an NHL contract and then get sent to juniors. - rangerdanger94
I think the Stolarz situation clarifies that a player can sign an ELC, losing his NCAA eligibility. Then be sent to Junior Hockey and have his contract slide.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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It depends because once a player reaches 20 he is an overage player in juniors and each team is only allowed so many as the season goes along. So at some point if no team has room for one AHL is the option. - ob18
The scenario were discussing can only be for a player who was 18 0r 19 at the time of the deal. And there are lot's of Junior teams around.
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I think the Stolarz situation clarifies that a player can sign an ELC, losing his NCAA eligibility. Then be sent to Junior Hockey and have his contract slide. - MJL
Ah sorry, I misunderstood the Stolarz situation. I thought he, like the Rangers prospect, left the NCAA to join juniors and then 2 months later signed his ELC. |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Ah sorry, I misunderstood the Stolarz situation. I thought he, like the Rangers prospect, left the NCAA to join juniors and then 2 months later signed his ELC. - rangerdanger94
No, you had it right at the start. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Ah sorry, I misunderstood the Stolarz situation. I thought he, like the Rangers prospect, left the NCAA to join juniors and then 2 months later signed his ELC. - rangerdanger94
No, I think you had that part right. I posted it in the wrong chronology. I think he left before signing his ELC. But regardless I think it shows that a player can leave the NCAA and go to Junior hockey and still have his ELC slide. |
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flyer_nutter
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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No, you had it right at the start. - Tomahawk
I'm so confused
We need Allan Walsh to help us out. |
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Pixote Andolini
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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Eklund, maybe accidentally, finally has revealed his ugly face for us to see in the main blog... - hankthetank
Is this the first time you are showing your face? Good for you for "coming out" man.. Nobody cares anyway...
- riceroni
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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The scenario were discussing can only be for a player who was 18 0r 19 at the time of the deal. And there are lot's of Junior teams around. - MJL
True but most can not go to any junior team they desire. If they are drafted within a league (each league has rights to specific US states) & they want to leave college and sign in juniors it has to be with that team unless that team trades his rights to somebody else within that league.
Stolarz wasn't drafted by any OHL club since his home is NJ and that's part of the OHL territory |
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No, I think you had that part right. - MJL
Oh, well basically what I'm not 100% sure of is whether players signed to professional NHL contracts are allowed to join juniors after they sign it if they've never played in them before. |
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Pixote Andolini
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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I'm so confused
We need Allan Walsh to help us out. - rangerdanger94
Nah I think we can move on now... please? |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I'm so confused
We need Allan Walsh to help us out. - rangerdanger94
No we don't. |
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Nah I think we can move on now... please? - Pixote Andolini
Prediction time... Rangers in 5 |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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True but most can not go to any junior team they desire. If they are drafted within a league (each league has rights to specific US states) & they want to leave college and sign in juniors it has to be with that team unless that team trades his rights to somebody else within that league.
Stolarz wasn't drafted by any OHL club since his home is NJ and that's part of the OHL territory - ob18
So a player can't be a junior free agent so to speak? There are territorial rights?
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Prediction time... Rangers in 5 - rangerdanger94
Rangers in 2 |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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So a player can't be a junior free agent so to speak? There are territorial rights? - MJL
They can but they must go undrafted in that leagues draft for I believe 2 years.
Some teams like the London Knights always take the risk with a few players a year because they've have much success convincing kids to play for them, other still draft them even if it's in a later round in hopes of moving their rights for a nice haul later.
This tells you what places get rights in the 3 major junior leagues. It gets even crazier if you want me to get into the Jack Eichel situation (Top target for 2015)
http://hockeyfamilyadviso...jor-junior-draft-process/ |
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hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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What the (frank) - flyer_nutter
exactly. |
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flyer_nutter
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Prediction time... Rangers in 5 - rangerdanger94
Could easily happen.
Flyers are the team that will have to make adjustments initially to start this series. Should be a good one hopefully. |
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FrmRusiaWifGlov
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Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland Joined: 03.31.2013
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Prediction time... Rangers in 5 - rangerdanger94
CSP gets pulled every game and posts an all time league high GAA and all time low save percentage.
Dare to Dream. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Could easily happen.
Flyers are the team that will have to make adjustments initially to start this series. Should be a good one hopefully. - flyer_nutter
I think the Flyers have to play their game not make adjustments. The team that wins the puck battles, is up on their skates, and get's to the net, will win this series. It's been that way all year for the Flyers. Play their game and they can win. Show up and not skate well, or with inconsistency, and they won't win.
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Could easily happen.
Flyers are the team that will have to make adjustments initially to start this series. Should be a good one hopefully. - flyer_nutter
I'm actually pretty nervous about AV's coaching ability in the playoffs. He seems like a guy that doesn't pick up on necessary adjustments too well. It did him in in the Bruins series. |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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This tells you what places get rights in the 3 major junior leagues. It gets even crazier if you want me to get into the Jack Eichel situation (Top target for 2015)
http://hockeyfamilyadviso...jor-junior-draft-process/ - ob18
It's nice that the Dub gets Minnesota and the Q gets Boston to help offset Ontario's huge natural advantage.
Wonder if G's career would have been different if he had been drafted into the OHL. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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It's nice that the Dub gets Minnesota and the Q gets Boston to help offset Ontario's huge natural advantage.
Wonder if G's career would have been different if he had been drafted into the OHL. - Tomahawk
It's good and bad........A player like Jack Eichel because he is from Boston was drafted by Halifax but they gave up trying to get him to play so traded his rights to Saint John who isn't having much luck either.
Word was he wants to play in the OHL and be able to go head to head with McDavid but in order for that to happen he'd have to be waived by every team in the Q would have to pass on his rights, this will not happen.
There is also talk that Quebec may try to convince him to play for them as they also have the right to his close friend Noah Hanifin and could try to acquire his rights & have both of them forgo their college commitments.
Going in Quebec's favor is they won the rights to host next years Memorial Cup |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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It's nice that the Dub gets Minnesota and the Q gets Boston to help offset Ontario's huge natural advantage.
Wonder if G's career would have been different if he had been drafted into the OHL. - Tomahawk
If I recall he even had to try out for Gatineau and wasn't successful at first. |
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