sloppy and weak, they have to be better than this
- BulliesPhan87

I like my women sloppy and trashy, not my hockey.

Yes there was an overtime..

However pretty sure Cooper played Stamkos about 4 something minutes of the first period yesterday. Kid finished with 27minutes played.

Berube got out-coached in this one for me. One game, lets see what happens in #2.
- flyer_nutter

In my opinion

With the way the Flyers played, I don't think any Coach changes the outcome. That game wasn't about Coaching.

In my opinion

I don't believe that the game plan was to play conservatively. I seriously doubt that they way they played was the game plan. Berube wanted the Flyers to get the puck deep and play against their defense down low. Well the Ranger pretty much did that to the Flyers.

I think the minutes reflect the players that the Coach thought were the better players.

The Flyers only had 6 offensive draws, in which the 4th line took half of them. The Rangers were primarily using Moore and Boyle for D zone draws, so that was Berube matching lines.

Akeson is an offensive player, and a scorer in the AHL. Why not use him on the 2nd PP unit. That unit hasn't exactly lit it up.

And the last I agree with. Not enough emotion from the team tonight.
- MJL

I'll say I'm not an Akeson hater, though he played ok tonight(more than I can say about some guys), but giving a rookie his first PP experience in a playoff game? Makes no sense, regardless of what he did in the AHL.

As for the matching lines in the O zone draws, you shouldn't be bothering with that crap when the team is clearly struggling offensively. When you get the rare chance to start in their zone you need to put your offensive minded players out there.

The worry to me is the lack of adjustments, combined with the sloppy play, is a killer against a good forechecking team.

The best way to attack a forecheck like the Rangers is to breakout quickly, play North-South without the D to D passes that allow teams like the Rangers to get set in their "trap"(for lack of a better word) and start hounding the defense.

Defenseman gets the puck, while the forwards are still in the zone, get it to them and get them started. Too often a defnseman gets the puck, hesitates and passes to the other defenseman, and then the forecheckers are all over them and they can't do more than just clear it out of the zone at best, and at worst get tied down.

Toss in a bad pass and you're basically guaranteeing an entire shift spend chasing the play in your own end
- Jsaquella

I remember in the beginning of the year when Berube took over he said his goal was to get them to think the game faster.

They were so far away from that tonight.
So much hesitation with the puck, moving the puck backwards.
Some of that is a credit to NYRs but not all of it.
LSchenn was very hesitant when he had the puck.

In my opinion

Once the game got out of hand, Berube cut Timonen's icetime in the 3rd. Which was a smart thing to do.
I expect his icetime to rise.
- MJL

For how Luke Schenn struggled in this game, he should have been nowhere near 21 minutes. Same with Grossmann.

If Berube indeed cut time of his best d-man in the third, he was admitting defeat. That's kind of weird for me to believe.

I really want to know why VL was used so little.

Maybe Berube has a master plan. Let the Rangers skate their asses off... get all the loose pucks so they can't hit us... tell Giroux not to skate hard... play it safe and not get injured...

Then... when the Rangers are riding high on their emotions from being up 3-0 in the series and 3-0 in game 4... we will strike! They won't even know it's coming!

In my opinion

He was left to cover two Rangers, with one directly in front of the net. Not much he could do there.
- MJL

I thought Grossmann had his man. And Couturier had McDonagh the 2nd time around (all the trouble started on the kill because Mcdonagh blew by Couturier)

For how Luke Schenn struggled in this game, he should have been nowhere near 21 minutes. Same with Grossmann.

If Berube indeed cut time of his best d-man in the third, he was admitting defeat. That's kind of weird for me to believe.
- flyer_nutter

Kimmo was dinged up early in the game.
That played a big part of his ice time.

I'll say I'm not an Akeson hater, though he played ok tonight(more than I can say about some guys), but giving a rookie his first PP experience in a playoff game? Makes no sense, regardless of what he did in the AHL.

As for the matching lines in the O zone draws, you shouldn't be bothering with that crap when the team is clearly struggling offensively. When you get the rare chance to start in their zone you need to put your offensive minded players out there.
- EducatedOpinion

In my opinion

I personally feel playing a player who's strongest asset is his offensive game, on the PP, is not a bad idea.

As far as the latter, I don't disagree. I'd rather see a top line out for an offensive zone draw, rather then line matching. Especially when they're struggling for offense.

I'll say I'm not an Akeson hater, though he played ok tonight(more than I can say about some guys), but giving a rookie his first PP experience in a playoff game? Makes no sense, regardless of what he did in the AHL.

As for the matching lines in the O zone draws, you shouldn't be bothering with that crap when the team is clearly struggling offensively. When you get the rare chance to start in their zone you need to put your offensive minded players out there.
- EducatedOpinion

Considering we have more talent skill wise, you would force them to match our lines. Instead of matching theirs.

I like my women sloppy and trashy, not my hockey.
- Flyersgod

Finally somebody I can 100% agree with.

More skill on D is needed, but heck thats not news
- BiggE

Hate to say it but this team desperately needs a player like ghost. Coburn tried tonight to skate the puck up, but we all know hes dumping it or throwing it in G's skates and is likely to come back the other way. There needs to be a wild card like that for the break out to F with the opposition. Timonen just has no wheels left. Streit isnt fleet of foot.

These teams are licking their lips when Luke and Grossman get the puck.

I remember in the beginning of the year when Berube took over he said his goal was to get them to think the game faster.

They were so far away from that tonight.
So much hesitation with the puck, moving the puck backwards.
Some of that is a credit to NYRs but not all of it.
LSchenn was very hesitant when he had the puck.
- Marc D

bad game by Schenn ... and VERY bad game by Grossmann. He almost seems to freeze when he has the puck. It wouldn't be a major surprise to me if Gill replaces him in game 2.

Gill might be as slow as poop, but he moves the puck quickly once he gets it.

I remember in the beginning of the year when Berube took over he said his goal was to get them to think the game faster.

They were so far away from that tonight.
So much hesitation with the puck, moving the puck backwards.
Some of that is a credit to NYRs but not all of it.
LSchenn was very hesitant when he had the puck.
- Marc D

That's pretty much it -- they have to move the puck more crisply. It's easier said than done, obviously, because some of them...that isn't what they do as well.

It can be better than we saw tonight, though -- they didn't play well tonight

In my opinion

With the way the Flyers played, I don't think any Coach changes the outcome. That game wasn't about Coaching.
- MJL

Kind of cute the opinion thing started with a threat of being banned. As we all know its so genuine

For me, I'll agree to disagree. Player management, in terms of icetime was a issue in this one for me. Your best players should play the most minutes.

That Flyer back end is not even in its talent spread, they shouldn't be played as such. Kind of sad LeCavalier playing 7 minutes total. Smelling a bit like bust.

Kimmo was dinged up early in the game.
That played a big part of his ice time.
- Marc D

Had no idea, wasn't mentioned on TSN.

If he is indeed going to play less minutes, the Flyers will greatly suffer for it.

For how Luke Schenn struggled in this game, he should have been nowhere near 21 minutes. Same with Grossmann.

If Berube indeed cut time of his best d-man in the third, he was admitting defeat. That's kind of weird for me to believe.
- flyer_nutter

In my opinion.

Luke Schenn played 18:21. I think the defenseman as a whole were under siege the entire game. And I think that defenseman tend to struggle and not look so good, in that situation. I think singling out any player in this game is foolish. It was a team loss. They were outplayed to a man.

how did the best player in the world do tonight?

The other issue I have is giving Coots 20 minutes of ice time. Giroux should be getting 20 minutes of ice time.

Although to be fair.. Coots had 5:25 in PK time. Coots also finished at 29% in the faceoff circle.

WAY too low.

Actually, he really didn't get his stick up. That's the kicker. He hit the Ranger with his shoulder, then lost his balance and torqued around, and that's when his stick said "what's up" to the face of the Ranger.

Just bad luck really.

If he doesn't fall on that hit, it's no penalty, and it's a whole different game at that point.

But....alas....

It is a series that is far from over, though. Bring it.
- Giroux_Is_God

all i can say id NO! physics tells us that if you go for the big hit coming from behind it will either be a charge if you hit him in the back or exacctly what happened if you try to torque around him.....he had a great shift and instead of just doing his job he tried to do too much, not blaming him for the loss but that play should not have happened

In my opinion.

Luke Schenn played 18:21. I think the defenseman as a whole were under siege the entire game. And I think that defenseman tend to struggle and not look so good, in that situation. I think singling out any player in this game is foolish. It was a team loss. They were outplayed to a man.
- MJL

dude, you really need to lighten up ... you're taking the internets WAY too seriously.

how did the best player in the world do tonight?
- SuperHenderson13

don't know ... what was Sid up to?

The only real problem with it is that a couple of guys just don't see those lanes as easily as a couple of others...it's tougher for them.

The Rags made it hard on the defense when they went D-to-D in their zone...you are dead on about that
- AllInForFlyers

It gives that 1st wave of forecheckers more time and that kills you, unless you have a defenseman that can really skate the puck out of trouble.

Holy crap Matt Read with over 20 minutes of ice time as well.

how did the best player in the world do tonight?
- SuperHenderson13

i think he had the night off and went out with his husband