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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
I'm out of touch ... is Akeson out and VandeVelde in? Thought I saw a post to that effect earlier today.
- FlyerGuy


Berube said that VandeVelde "could" play on Sunday, not that he is in for sure.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
Good thing I didn't say "physically make hits" at the blueline.

Because we all know what out and out hitting machines Kimmo Timonen & Braydon Coburn are. I'm talking about simply stepping up and challenging at the blue line, and fore opposing players to either dump the puck in and chase it or force them to have to get around the defenseman, rather than simply skate into the zone.

Nice attempt to change the wording and to make it sound as if I'm using the stats, because I'm not. It's a comment based on watching the games, and seeing that Timonen and Coburn are far more active at challenging opposing players at the Flyers blueline than MacDonald, Streit, Grossmann or Schenn.

- Jsaquella

AMac is pretty good at dropping back into the proper position
he may yield the blue line but he often blocks the shot or breaks up the pass inside the zone
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:10 PM ET
Let me know what the D pairings are
- PhillySportsGuy


Missed who he was paired with but 40 seconds in he hit the ice

FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:10 PM ET
Berube said that VandeVelde "could" play on Sunday, not that he is in for sure.
- Jsaquella

ah, ok.

ty.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:11 PM ET
I'm out of touch ... is Akeson out and VandeVelde in? Thought I saw a post to that effect earlier today.
- FlyerGuy

I disagree with this move

but whatever
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 18 @ 7:11 PM ET
I disagree with this move

but whatever

- Marc D

Agreed.

It's speculation though, remember
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 7:11 PM ET
what would homer do

- Marc D



He'll match asking price of 4.5-5M. I'm still not sure he goes in that direction. I really don't know what his plan is for this offseason.

My ideal offseason would be:

Move Vinny
Sign Jagr

Move Grossmann or Schenn
Sign Stralman

Try and convince Kimmo to come back and hope he takes less money. Maybe he comes back a couple weeks into the season and the Flyers give Morin the 9 game tryout.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Missed who he was paired with but 40 seconds in he hit the ice


- ob18

is that ghost playing for the phantoms?

v. nice indeed
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
AMac is pretty good at dropping back into the proper position
he may yield the blue line but he often blocks the shot or breaks up the pass inside the zone

- Marc D


He's very capable in his own end...much better than I expected, actually. I'd just like to see him challenge a bit more.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Missed who he was paired with but 40 seconds in he hit the ice


- ob18



ohhh man he looks great
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
is that ghost playing for the phantoms?

v. nice indeed

- Marc D


Yes 2nd shift 2 nice shots & 2 solid poke checks....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Missed who he was paired with but 40 seconds in he hit the ice


- ob18


Broad Street Hockey says top pairing with Manning.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Cmon man......we all know where this is going to end up. I'd rather watch maybe our only ray of hope that could put the fear of god in these tight checking teams that swallow the flyers breakouts.
- Just5

I'm not giving up on this series ... the Flyers beat the Rangers twice here, so it CAN be done. They just gotta figure out how to win one at MSG.

One thing about Berube, he's not afraid of either line changes or lineup changes. So that will help, imo.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Bruno Gervais is a healthy scratch for the Phantoms
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
Broad Street Hockey says top pairing with Manning.
- PhillySportsGuy


Well Manning is on the ice now and Ghost isn't with him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
Bruno Gervais is a healthy scratch for the Phantoms
- ob18


Probably more to do with making sure the kids get enough ice time than his play
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Apr 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
Yes 2nd shift 2 nice shots & 2 solid poke checks....
- ob18



Hope he has a coming out party. Hes definitely active thats for sure.... have a feed for the game?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:14 PM ET

He'll match asking price of 4.5-5M. I'm still not sure he goes in that direction. I really don't know what his plan is for this offseason.

My ideal offseason would be:

Move Vinny
Sign Jagr

Move Grossmann or Schenn
Sign Stralman

Try and convince Kimmo to come back and hope he takes less money. Maybe he comes back a couple weeks into the season and the Flyers give Morin the 9 game tryout.

- PhillySportsGuy


a few weeks ago I was 100% in favor of resigning kimmo if he wanted to play another year

rethinking this now, maybe best to move on

Coburn
Streit/Amac

trade one of LS/NG

rebuild the whole thing
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
He's very capable in his own end...much better than I expected, actually. I'd just like to see him challenge a bit more.
- Jsaquella


If he could play zone entries better, he can be a very good defenseman. Its really the one thing holding him back. He has the mobility and stick play in order to get better in that area. I just hope the Flyers recognize it and help him.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
Bruno Gervais is a healthy scratch for the Phantoms
- ob18

he's in for the big team Sun
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Apr 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
AMac is pretty good at dropping back into the proper position
he may yield the blue line but he often blocks the shot or breaks up the pass inside the zone

- Marc D



Thank you

can't understand why people bash him, he's only made our defense better.

No one said he's Weber, but he's very solid, not spectacular, but very steady.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 18 @ 7:15 PM ET
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- Jsaquella

Does this cost money that I don't have?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:15 PM ET
Probably more to do with making sure the kids get enough ice time than his play
- Jsaquella


Could be, it still made me laugh
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:16 PM ET
Hope he has a coming out party. Hes definitely active thats for sure.... have a feed for the game?
- justahockeyguy2


Apparently a large group from Union is at the game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 7:16 PM ET
If he could play zone entries better, he can be a very good defenseman. Its really the one thing holding him back. He has the mobility and stick play in order to get better in that area. I just hope the Flyers recognize it and help him.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yep. He doesn't need to be putting guys through walls, just interrupt the flow a bit more often. I don't want him doing it too aggressively or every damned play, just be a but more assertive at the blue line.
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