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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:07 PM ET
i doubt carter would have been traded if richards wasn't
- 2Real


That means no Voracek
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
He took a 4 minute penalty in the 3rd period of a tie playoff game, my apologies for not wanting to give him a break on it.
- Flyersgod

amen. regardless of how poorly they played it was 1-1 w/ 10 min left. i think this is an organ-ize-ational (henceforth "the O) problem and here is why: i think that a certain "brand" of hockey is taught and encouraged throughout this "O" that players learn is the fastest way to succeed; not that other skills are not valued or taught, but physical play gets you noticed (and promoted) more here, imo. akeson's idea is to finish a great shift by throwing a hard check. never mind he is chasing the guy and totally out of position to do so.
did he lose the game? no. did his action bring about THE pivotal sequence in the game? no doubt
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
That means no Voracek
- Flyersgod

or sakic i mean couturier
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Wish they'd just tell us what's wrong.
- Flyersgod


I'm really worried that this may be a short series. Emery was fine Thursday but I was hoping mase could play Sunday as he's got better lateral movement. Regardless, if berube doesn't figure out some adjustments to generate more shots, it won't matter who's in net.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
i doubt carter would have been traded if richards wasn't
- 2Real


Carter deal happened an hour before the Richards deal. They were gonna trade 'em both.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Rangers in 5
😫🔫
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'm really worried that this may be a short series. Emery was fine Thursday but I was hoping mase could play Sunday as he's got better lateral movement. Regardless, if berube doesn't figure out some adjustments to generate more shots, it won't matter who's in net.
- Hextall271

You should be worried. While Emery wasn't THE problem... He won't be a savior and our team respects the rangers wayyyy too much in NY. We treat them like the 85 Oilers. It's so sad to watch.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
Carter deal happened an hour before the Richards deal. They were gonna trade 'em both.
- Jsaquella

i think most saw carter going to make room for the $$ to sign a goalie.....i was pretty surprised by richie going, but not carter
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
Rangers in 5
😫🔫

- GOA88


I hope ur wrong but so far, things just don't seem to be going our way. If we can't win tomorrow, I'd say its probably over in 5.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:23 PM ET
Rangers in 5
😫🔫

- GOA88

you richard!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:23 PM ET
It sucks for Mason. He's been proving people wrong all year with strong to stellar play and now with a chance to really make people notice, he's out.

I do feel Mason is a better option than Emery. Both statistically and from watching, Mason is superior and definitely has better lateral movement & puck handling skills. That said, Emery isn't why they lost game one and if they play the same way they did Thursday on Sunday, he won't be why they lose game two.

But you have to play who is available. Mason is not, so it falls to Emery.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
I hope ur wrong but so far, things just don't seem to be going our way. If we can't win tomorrow, I'd say its probably over in 5.
- Hextall271

What I don't get is why we play the Rangers so much differently at home than on the road. What's the big difference? Last change? Crowd? Not that much of a difference if you ask me.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
It sucks for Mason. He's been proving people wrong all year with strong to stellar play and now with a chance to really make people notice, he's out.

I do feel Mason is a better option than Emery. Both statistically and from watching, Mason is superior and definitely has better lateral movement & puck handling skills. That said, Emery isn't why they lost game one and if they play the same way they did Thursday on Sunday, he won't be why they lose game two.

But you have to play who is available. Mason is not, so it falls to Emery.

- Jsaquella

do you think any of us will live long enough to see the star goalie on the other team get injured 5 minutes before the playoffs start?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
i think most saw carter going to make room for the $$ to sign a goalie.....i was pretty surprised by richie going, but not carter
- hogweed


Oh, yeah, when the Carter trade went down, it was like WOW...and then the Richards deal happened and it was like HOLY (frank)ING poop!!

but looking back and hearing some of the stories that came out of it, Holmgren was shopping both.

One rumor was that while talking to the Jackets, he asked Howson if he "...wanted 'em both"...the rumor attached to that was Carter, Richards and another guy(depth guy/prospect) for Voracek, Ryan Johansen, Steve Mason & 2 1st rounders

Not sure of the truth there, but it was prior to the Bryzgalov trade/signing, but the story goes that Howson only said no because of Johansen.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
What I don't get is why we play the Rangers so much differently at home than on the road. What's the big difference? Last change? Crowd? Not that much of a difference if you ask me.
- GOA88

i went to that 3/1 matinee and although the flyers won, the rags were the better team for 1/2 that game. hit the post a couple times and missed a wide open net two other times.....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
do you think any of us will live long enough to see the star goalie on the other team get injured 5 minutes before the playoffs start?
- hogweed


Happened to other teams this year...unfortunately, none of those teams were the Rangers
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:28 PM ET
What I don't get is why we play the Rangers so much differently at home than on the road. What's the big difference? Last change? Crowd? Not that much of a difference if you ask me.
- GOA88


My thought on that is it has a lot to do with the last change. Berube can get his match ups the way he wants them. Vigneault is getting the right players out to completely shut down giroux etc. I think that's the real issue. I wonder if it would be worth considering switching the lines up to start getting some better match ups.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:28 PM ET
Oh, yeah, when the Carter trade went down, it was like WOW...and then the Richards deal happened and it was like HOLY (frank)ING poop!!

but looking back and hearing some of the stories that came out of it, Holmgren was shopping both.

One rumor was that while talking to the Jackets, he asked Howson if he "...wanted 'em both"...the rumor attached to that was Carter, Richards and another guy(depth guy/prospect) for Voracek, Ryan Johansen, Steve Mason & 2 1st rounders

Not sure of the truth there, but it was prior to the Bryzgalov trade/signing, but the story goes that Howson only said no because of Johansen.

- Jsaquella

i heard that rumor but without mason in the deal
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:29 PM ET
Happened to other teams this year...unfortunately, none of those teams were the Rangers
- Jsaquella

although kreider is out
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:30 PM ET
i heard that rumor but without mason in the deal
- hogweed


I've heard it with him and without him. One of the discussed Carter deals included him, but fell through.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:32 PM ET
I've heard it with him and without him. One of the discussed Carter deals included him, but fell through.
- Jsaquella

instead of getting carter they ended up with JJ in the end
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
instead of getting carter they ended up with JJ in the end
- 2Real


Yeah, The Jeff Carter trades were not good ones for the Jackets
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think it's time to end the Schenn experiment. Not good enough for 2nd line. Time to give Vinny his shot. What's to lose????
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Key Adjustments for Game 2, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


I did notice one thing in terms of our defensemen especially Timonen is that they were fundamentally turning wrong. When a player chips the puck past you, you are suppose to turn with the opposing player to keep your eyes on them at all times. On many occasions especially with Timonen, I saw him make the opposite turn and take his eyes off player.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
I think it's time to end the Schenn experiment. Not good enough for 2nd line. Time to give Vinny his shot. What's to lose????
- GOA88


Im more on the side of ending the Luke Schenn experiment. Would rather just see Guss, or one of the AHL kids next year.

Luke bothers me a lot more than Brayden.
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