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hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:35 PM ET
Seriously, we could have had over 10 power plays in that game, Neal takes a cheapshot every shift alone.
- puckhead17

crysby would have been poopting yellow in that game if pronger was still playing
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
More, absolutely, more. We'll never know for sure but I'm guessing Poile's asking price was somewhere along the lines of Couturier, both Schenns, Coburn and 2 firsts. Remember in Poile's eyes, he has to replace Weber and Suter, so he is not taking less than 2 NHL caliber dmen back in the deal and he's going to want both top prospects and picks as well.
- BiggE

it's not homer's problem he has to replace both weber and suter you can't even ask for something like that

poile is a joke that never won anything and overrates his players
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
More, absolutely, more. We'll never know for sure but I'm guessing Poile's asking price was somewhere along the lines of Couturier, both Schenns, Coburn and 2 firsts. Remember in Poile's eyes, he has to replace Weber and Suter, so he is not taking less than 2 NHL caliber dmen back in the deal and he's going to want both top prospects and picks as well.
- BiggE


That's a Lindros type package.

I do agree Poile would want 2 D men back, actually, knowing him, he may want 4 D men back and 2/4th line forwards
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
My thoughts are line juggling is not going to be necessary because the Flyers are going to win tomorrow.
- MJL



Its not just a game, not just a season, but the entire direction of the team, I think. The 2 last games in MSG they lost largely the same way they lost to NJ 2 years ago. If they go out in 5, the evidence for statements like "the team is going in the right direction" and "bright future" etc, will be, shall we say, scant...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
it's not homer's problem he has to replace both weber and suter you can't even ask for something like that

poile is a joke that never won anything and overrates his players

- 2Real


I agree, however Poile can ask for whatever he wanted, he had complete control of the situation. I don't think for a second that Nashville had any intention of letting Weber go after they had already lost Suter, unless another team was willing to massively overpay for him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
That's a Lindros type package.

I do agree Poile would want 2 D men back, actually, knowing him, he may want 4 D men back and 2/4th line forwards

- puckhead17



hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:41 PM ET


- BiggE

i don't type all that well to begin with but this is beyond humiliating
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
So Quennville gets fined 25k for grabbing his junk, but Lucic only get s fined 5k for spearing a guy in his junk

way to go NHL
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
So Quennville gets fined 25k for grabbing his junk, but Lucic only get s fined 5k for spearing a guy in his junk

way to go NHL

- KINGKENZO

ugh
Should start suspending these type of nut shots
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
More, absolutely, more. We'll never know for sure but I'm guessing Poile's asking price was somewhere along the lines of Couturier, both Schenns, Coburn and 2 firsts. Remember in Poile's eyes, he has to replace Weber and Suter, so he is not taking less than 2 NHL caliber dmen back in the deal and he's going to want both top prospects and picks as well.
- BiggE


Honestly, if that was Poile's asking price, then that was Poile pretty much saying that they're not trading Weber. I don't believe the price was that high. And personally, I think there is a chance that Weber is traded this off season.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
StL Chi very entertaining
Big boy hockey
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
Its not just a game, not just a season, but the entire direction of the team, I think. The 2 last games in MSG they lost largely the same way they lost to NJ 2 years ago. If they go out in 5, the evidence for statements like "the team is going in the right direction" and "bright future" etc, will be, shall we say, scant...
- PT21


The way they lost in game 1 pretty much mirrors a lot of games the Flyers lost this Season. I've stated a zillion times that when the Flyers skate, and play with intensity, and play the right way, they can compete with any team in the League. When they don't, and I don't think they did in game 1, they can't. Same old, same old. Out skated, outworked. Turnovers, and penalties. Seen it a lot from this team. Why they didn't come out with playoff level intensity team wide, for that game, is something that I can't figure out. But it's been an issue with this team all Season. Need to find consistency. Not just for this Series, and this playoff season. But for this team as a whole going forward. To me, that is the next big step in growth for this team. Regardless of what player changes are made.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
The way they lost in game 1 pretty much mirrors a lot of games the Flyers lost this Season. I've stated a zillion times that when the Flyers skate, and play with intensity, and play the right way, they can compete with any team in the League. When they don't, and I don't think they did in game 1, they can't. Same old, same old. Out skated, outworked. Turnovers, and penalties. Seen it a lot from this team. Why they didn't come out with playoff level intensity team wide, for that game, is something that I can't figure out. But it's been an issue with this team all Season. Need to find consistency. Not just for this Series, and this playoff season. But for this team as a whole going forward. To me, that is the next big step in growth for this team. Regardless of what player changes are made.
- MJL


I think this is true, but the opposition plays a role in this too.
The Flyers look crappy against the NYRs more often then not.
The NYRs make it tough on them.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
So Quennville gets fined 25k for grabbing his junk, but Lucic only get s fined 5k for spearing a guy in his junk

way to go NHL

- KINGKENZO


The Lucic foul was a scrotal outrage!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
I think this is true, but the opposition plays a role in this too.
The Flyers look crappy against the NYRs more often then not.
The NYRs make it tough on them.

- Marc D



Absolutely the opposition plays a role. And sometimes a team just doesn't match up well against another. But I've seen the Flyers play well, and even beat teams better then the Rangers. That fore check just as hard, and skate even better. So I don't believe that the Flyers can't match the Rangers, and can't compete and even beat them.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
Absolutely the opposition plays a role. And sometimes a team just doesn't match up well against another. But I've seen the Flyers play well, and even beat teams better then the Rangers. That fore check just as hard, and skate even better. So I don't believe that the Flyers can't match the Rangers, and can't compete and even beat them.
- MJL

I hope so.
That first game was disheartening.
One of their poorer efforts.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:36 PM ET
The Lucic foul was a scrotal outrage!
- 2731color


Nice
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:42 PM ET
There's not a lot of adjustments that Berube can make, but one I'd like to see is players such as Giroux and Voracek double shifted and sent out for a few shifts with other lines. For instance when the Lecavalier line is out, pull off Hall or Rinaldo, and throw Giroux or Voracek in there for a shift. It would be a good tactic to get both of those guys some ES time away from the Rangers top D pair.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
wow. what a hit on backes. jfc.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 19 @ 5:44 PM ET
man, seabrook can't make that hit. i hope he gets suspended. jesus.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:45 PM ET
Seabrooke just killed Backes

Clear head shot
Very suspendable
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:45 PM ET
OH MY GOD
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 19 @ 5:45 PM ET
Textbook headshot by Seabrooke.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 19 @ 5:46 PM ET
wow. what a hit on backes. jfc.
- hammarby31


Yup, he looks pretty woozy
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 19 @ 5:46 PM ET
man, seabrook can't make that hit. i hope he gets suspended. jesus.
- hammarby31

That was insane, Seabrook had him lined up and just destroyed him
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