I will say this. It wasn't just a bad penalty. It was a result of the kid having no strength to throw a check. While the Flyers would have probably lost regardless, the penalty was a direct cause of us losing game 1.

As a rookie you don't get to cost your team a playoff game and get to say "it's no big deal".
- Flyersgod

You sound like a Flyer's beat writer. He didn't lose them the game. They were completely outplayed. His penalty was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The PK, also, could have done a better job of killing the PP instead of allowing 2 goals.

The kid played well for the most part. I think it would be stupid to replace him with some irrelevant player simply because he took an unfortunate penalty.

Nor woulda Rinaldo, Coburn, Grossmann, or B. Schenn.
- jmatchett383

True

You sound like a Flyer's beat writer. He didn't lose them the game. They were completely outplayed. His penalty was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The PK, also, could have done a better job of killing the PP instead of allowing 2 goals.

The kid played well for the most part. I think it would be stupid to replace him with some irrelevant player simply because he took an unfortunate penalty.
- PhillySportsGuy

Absolutely right, they have tried something radical like killing off the damn penalty!
Or at worse, give up only 1 and still be one lucky bounce away from a tie game.

To pin that loss on Akeson is ridiculous.

LOL
If stupidity led to benching, Hartnell would never see the ice
- BiggE

Yeah. Benching Akeson would send the wrong message. This team has been undisciplined since the Stevens teams. I don't see why they would change now.

You sound like a Flyer's beat writer. He didn't lose them the game. They were completely outplayed. His penalty was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The PK, also, could have done a better job of killing the PP instead of allowing 2 goals.

The kid played well for the most part. I think it would be stupid to replace him with some irrelevant player simply because he took an unfortunate penalty.
- PhillySportsGuy

Spreading the box out with east to west passing, (making Emery plod from post to post), was an effective power play.
The shots & territorial face offs were telling enough, to blame the kid for the loss is wrong.

Absolutely right, they have tried something radical like killing off the damn penalty!
Or at worse, give up only 1 and still be one lucky bounce away from a tie game.

To pin that loss on Akeson is ridiculous.
- BiggE

The first goal on the PP was unlucky. Tough poop. They needed to rebound from that and kill off the second half for the kid.

I'm just a little annoyed at how the national and local media are spinning this into "If Akseon didn't take the penalty…Blah blah blah"

Flyers were outplayed from top to bottom. They deserved to lose.

Nor woulda Rinaldo, Coburn, Grossmann, or B. Schenn.
- jmatchett383

No longer hate the idea... go on sir....

Spreading the box out with east to west passing, (making Emery plod from post to post), was an effective power play.
The shots & territorial face offs were telling enough.
- puckhead17

No doubt
They were outplayed in every facet of the game, Akeson was not the problem.

You sound like a Flyer's beat writer. He didn't lose them the game. They were completely outplayed. His penalty was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The PK, also, could have done a better job of killing the PP instead of allowing 2 goals.

The kid played well for the most part. I think it would be stupid to replace him with some irrelevant player simply because he took an unfortunate penalty.
- PhillySportsGuy

He took a 4 minute penalty in the 3rd period of a tie playoff game, my apologies for not wanting to give him a break on it.

Spreading the box out with east to west passing, (making Emery plod from post to post), was an effective power play.
The shots & territorial face offs were telling enough.
- puckhead17

I know. Its people looking for story lines who blame Akeson. Any competent writer knows this blowup was inevitable with the way the team was playing. From the 2nd half of the 2nd period, the Rangers must have out chanced the Flyers by, at least, a 5:1 margin.

The first goal on the PP was unlucky. Tough poop. They needed to rebound from that and kill off the second half for the kid.

I'm just a little annoyed at how the national and local media are spinning this into "If Akseon didn't take the penalty…Blah blah blah"

Flyers were outplayed from top to bottom. They deserved to lose.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's cause too many of the media that covers hockey, has either no real understanding of the game, or worse, they do understand the game, but they go for the cheap headline and for stirring the pot.

I was really spoiled in the 70's and 80's when guys like Jay Greenberg, Jack Chevalier and Al Morganti (back when he was a real reporter) covered the Flyers locally. It's really sad that we went from those 3 to Seravalli, Carcidi and Panaccio. UGH

Absolutely right, they have tried something radical like killing off the damn penalty!
Or at worse, give up only 1 and still be one lucky bounce away from a tie game.

To pin that loss on Akeson is ridiculous.
- BiggE

The loss isn't on him. His penalty did cost us the game. I only say that because we don't know what would have happened. We can assume, based on the Flyers play in the 3rd, that no matter what happened we were going to lose that game anyway.

I will say this. It wasn't just a bad penalty. It was a result of the kid having no strength to throw a check. While the Flyers would have probably lost regardless, the penalty was a direct cause of us losing game 1.

As a rookie you don't get to cost your team a playoff game and get to say "it's no big deal".
- Flyersgod

He fell when trying to throw the check, had nothing to do with strength. Unfortunately he was careless with his twig. It is a big deal, but the fact remains that Akeson was one of the team's most effective forwards and mistakes aside, he should be playing tomorrow.

He took a 4 minute penalty in the 3rd period of a tie playoff game, my apologies for not wanting to give him a break on it.
- Flyersgod

So he took a penalty. It wasn't undisciplined. It had more to do with bad luck.

Last night, Corey Perry speared Jamie Benn in the nuts. The refs gave him 2 minutes and the Stars scored on the PP. It could have easily been 5 minutes and a misconduct.

No one is calling for Perry's head. In fact, Perry went on to score the go ahead goal in their win.

Let's let Akeson rebound from this and see what he does.

I know. Its people looking for story lines who blame Akeson. Any competent writer knows this blowup was inevitable with the way the team was playing. From the 2nd half of the 2nd period, the Rangers must have out chanced the Flyers by, at least, a 5:1 margin.
- PhillySportsGuy

Even if we stay tied through the 3rd, Lundqvist was barely awake from the non activity around his net.

edit: If we forecheck better, we at last draw a penalty or 2 to jump start our offense, that's where we lost the game.

He took a 4 minute penalty in the 3rd period of a tie playoff game, my apologies for not wanting to give him a break on it.
- Flyersgod

Sorry, the kid went for a hit, and got his stick up. Poop happens. At least he was trying to do something. It's not like he took a run at someone or did something stupid intentionally.

Sorry, but the way they were playing at that point in the game, they were going to lose, it was just a matter of time.

He fell when trying to throw the check, had nothing to do with strength. Unfortunately he was careless with his twig. It is a big deal, but the fact remains that Akeson was one of the team's most effective forwards and mistakes aside, he should be playing tomorrow.
- Jsaquella

Agreed!

So he took a penalty. It wasn't undisciplined. It had more to do with bad luck.

Last night, Corey Perry speared Jamie Benn in the nuts. The refs gave him 2 minutes and the Stars scored on the PP. It could have easily been 5 minutes and a misconduct.

No one is calling for Perry's head. In fact, Perry went on to score the go ahead goal in their win.

Let's let Akeson rebound from this and see what he does.
- PhillySportsGuy

Good point!

That's cause too many of the media that covers hockey, has either no real understanding of the game, or worse, they do understand the game, but they go for the cheap headline and for stirring the pot.

I was really spoiled in the 70's and 80's when guys like Jay Greenberg, Jack Chevalier and Al Morganti (back when he was a real reporter) covered the Flyers locally. It's really sad that we went from those 3 to Seravalli, Carcidi and Panaccio. UGH
- BiggE

This is all my generation has. Im thankful my future brother-in-law showed me this site.

This is the game that, IMO, decides the series.

If the Rangers win. They go into Philly knowing that all they need is a split and it's pretty much over and even if they lose 2 on the road, all they need to do is keep winning at home and they still move on to the next round.

If the Flyers win. Well the whole 9-0 Rangers mystique at the Garden goes right out the window and the Flyers confidence soars. Plus the Rangers would have to be thinking that anything less than a split in Philly and we are done.

Gonna be a fun one!
- BiggE

Sounds like we got them right where we want them

Pretty sad when your most effective players were an AHL callup and an ex islander we just got in a trade

Yeah. Benching Akeson would send the wrong message. This team has been undisciplined since the Stevens teams. I don't see why they would change now.
- PhillySportsGuy

Good news is, he didn't miss a shift after the dbl-minor, so hopefully that means Berube realizes the kid is playing well and isn't going to banish him to Chateau Dog.

Pretty sad when your most effective players were an AHL callup and an ex islander we just got in a trade
- Just5

Here comes the Andy Mac bashing

This is all my generation has. Im thankful my future brother-in-law showed me this site.
- PhillySportsGuy

Greenberg was a treat. Insightful, funny and thoughtful, one of the best hockey writers ever. His book "The Complete History of the Philadelphia Flyers" is a must read for any Flyers fan.

Good news is, he didn't miss a shift after the dbl-minor, so hopefully that means Berube realizes the kid is playing well and isn't going to banish him to Chateau Dog.
- Tomahawk

aka: the Downie dome