I just do not get the Hawks fans happy Backes is injured. Yes, the Blues have players who like to throw their bodies around and especially Lappy have made some stupid plays in their career. I don't recall any Blues fan ever happy another player was injured.

My favorite discussions on HB last year was when we played the Kings. We actually discussed the game and I could post in their thread with honest analysis and we had civil discourse. I gained a level of respect for their fans due to their level-headedness, even after they went down 2-0 they weren't losing it (rightfully so as the series would go).

The Hawks fans on HB are classless. You guys would trade another cup if it meant you could end Backes career. I can't even recall the last time Backes was suspended and I'd love to see a replay of a dirty hit from a Blues player in this series.

Did Backes re-aggravate his injury?? Well he had a foot injury, did his foot move to his head?? And I'm the homer. Go bac to your Hawks thread and whine about it. No one wants to hear you make excuses here.
- Randall_Ritchey

Listen Ritchey. We have to put up with Blues fans in our threads. Do you not like it so much the other way around? Also everyone is entitled to their own obsevations/opinions, No matter how bad they may seem to others. Example: I don't hold it against you personally for being a Blues fan, Or How you Blues fans have defended Backes for years Saying "he plays the game hard" Well Seabrook "plays the game hard" Not so much fun on the other end, Is it?

I wouldn't paint every one with the same brush. There certainly are meatheads in both fan bases. I don't know how much of the the Hawks games you watch but the way they played yesterday was so out of character from the way they play most of the time. They are me of the least penalized teams in the league and have the fewest fighting majors. Most Hawks fans pine for a few more physical players because the team is perceived to be a soft team. They've won two cups so I guess we can't complain and then we get all the nonsense yesterday. The Hawks aren't going to win like that and as much as Blues fans hate the hit on Backus as much as we do every time it happens to the Hawks it may have just cost the Hawks the series. If your look at it objectively the Blues do play on the edge Backus included. They are not a soft team and will pound you every chance they get and often are initiating the same type of nonsense that we saw yesterday.

I just do not get the Hawks fans happy Backes is injured. Yes, the Blues have players who like to throw their bodies around and especially Lappy have made some stupid plays in their career. I don't recall any Blues fan ever happy another player was injured.

My favorite discussions on HB last year was when we played the Kings. We actually discussed the game and I could post in their thread with honest analysis and we had civil discourse. I gained a level of respect for their fans due to their level-headedness, even after they went down 2-0 they weren't losing it (rightfully so as the series would go).

The Hawks fans on HB are classless. You guys would trade another cup if it meant you could end Backes career. I can't even recall the last time Backes was suspended and I'd love to see a replay of a dirty hit from a Blues player in this series.
- charlest

Not all Hawks fans are happy Backes is hurt. I can't stand Backes. but I don't want him hurt like that. Please don't try and pretend that Blues fans are above the stuff that SOME Hawks fans are pulling. Makes you look silly! All teams have rabid fans with homer glasses. You proved my point by trying to downplay the blues players style by singling out JUST Lappy. Try Lappy, Backes, Polak, Jackman,Morrow, Ott, Reaves. etc, etc. And I don't even put the blame all on these players. Hitchcock teams all play this way- Borderline dirty and they cross that line plenty of times each game.

And Q gets 25k? Tells you all you need to know about the NHL...They care more about the perceived damage caused to their brand, image and revenue stream as a result of an inappropriate gesture than they do the actual potential risk to the players. So sad in so many ways but just like every other big business. Just makes me and regarding the league.
- stljam

I completely agree and could not say it better myself.

The league is an absolute joke when it comes to officiating.

Listen Ritchey. We have to put up with Blues fans in our threads. Do you not like it so much the other way around? Also everyone is entitled to their own obsevations/opinions, No matter how bad they may seem to others. Example: I don't hold it against you personally for being a Blues fan, Or How you Blues fans have defended Backes for years Saying "he plays the game hard" Well Seabrook "plays the game hard" Not so much fun on the other end, Is it?
- camfor

Playing the game hard and crossing a line.

There is more than a subtle difference there.

I wouldn't paint every one with the same brush. There certainly are meatheads in both fan bases. I don't know how much of the the Hawks games you watch but the way they played yesterday was so out of character from the way they play most of the time. They are me of the least penalized teams in the league and have the fewest fighting majors. Most Hawks fans pine for a few more physical players because the team is perceived to be a soft team. They've won two cups so I guess we can't complain and then we get all the nonsense yesterday. The Hawks aren't going to win like that and as much as Blues fans hate the hit on Backus as much as we do every time it happens to the Hawks it may have just cost the Hawks the series. If your look at it objectively the Blues do play on the edge Backus included. They are not a soft team and will pound you every chance they get and often are initiating the same type of nonsense that we saw yesterday.
- jhawk159

You are correct. I was a bit shocked. It was almost as if a coach said do this.

I have never seen Seabrook make a play like that. But he did it and what I think happened was that he wanted to put a strong hit on Backes because Backes makes big hits. But somewhere the excitement maybe got the best of him and he ended up going over board.

Take away these are our favorite teams and this is one of the best series I have seen.

These teams are evenly matched up as proven by the regular season.

The shame is that there lesser teams that will move to the next round and one of these two teams will not. If either the Hawks or the Blues were facing nearly any eastern team they would win and move on.

While. I used to not like the idea of fighting, it is clear to me the cathartic nature of it would probably calm the game down more. It would be better than spinning the wheel of discipline that goes on.


Honestly who in the hell can fine a coach $25k one moment for a gesture and the next fine a guy $5 k for outright spearing him in the gonads and not think there is something wrong?

I guess it just goes to our culture now a days where a good profit is never enough. That while fighting might be better for the game, the risk of losing sponsorship money is too great to keep the profits ever increasing.

Not all Hawks fans are happy Backes is hurt. I can't stand Backes. but I don't want him hurt like that. Please don't try and pretend that Blues fans are above the stuff that SOME Hawks fans are pulling. Makes you look silly! All teams have rabid fans with homer glasses. You proved my point by trying to downplay the blues players style by singling out JUST Lappy. Try Lappy, Backes, Polak, Jackman,Morrow, Ott, Reaves. etc, etc. And I don't even put the blame all on these players. Hitchcock teams all play this way- Borderline dirty and they cross that line plenty of times each game.
- camfor

To be fair. I have never seen a player go through the glass in a hockey game or in the stands in a baseball game, have his helmet removed and beer dumped on him.

There is always that guy though.

What goads me is on espn and other places I have seen Hawks fans calling. Blues fans jethro and other crap suggesting that we are some how not sophisticated.

Then again I live on a dirt road way out in the country. Once upon a time I lived in Chicago for five years as well, and by Chicago. I mean in the city itself.

Not really sure why that has any relevance to my post.
- MnGump

You do know Backes is a Minnesota boy?

You are correct. I was a bit shocked. It was almost as if a coach said do this.

I have never seen Seabrook make a play like that. But he did it and what I think happened was that he wanted to put a strong hit on Backes because Backes makes big hits. But somewhere the excitement maybe got the best of him and he ended up going over board.

Take away these are our favorite teams and this is one of the best series I have seen.

These teams are evenly matched up as proven by the regular season.

The shame is that there lesser teams that will move to the next round and one of these two teams will not. If either the Hawks or the Blues were facing nearly any eastern team they would win and move on.

While. I used to not like the idea of fighting, it is clear to me the cathartic nature of it would probably calm the game down more. It would be better than spinning the wheel of discipline that goes on.


Honestly who in the hell can fine a coach $25k one moment for a gesture and the next fine a guy $5 k for outright spearing him in the gonads and not think there is something wrong?

I guess it just goes to our culture now a days where a good profit is never enough. That while fighting might be better for the game, the risk of losing sponsorship money is too great to keep the profits ever increasing.
- BluemanGuruu

Good points. The argument has always been that if eliminate fighting the stick work and cheap shots would increase and I think that might be true. The players seemed to do a good job of policing themselves. I think the stagged fights need to go. They serve no purpose and slow down the game. The spear deserved more than $5 k that's for sure.

I just do not get the Hawks fans happy Backes is injured. Yes, the Blues have players who like to throw their bodies around and especially Lappy have made some stupid plays in their career. I don't recall any Blues fan ever happy another player was injured.

My favorite discussions on HB last year was when we played the Kings. We actually discussed the game and I could post in their thread with honest analysis and we had civil discourse. I gained a level of respect for their fans due to their level-headedness, even after they went down 2-0 they weren't losing it (rightfully so as the series would go).

The Hawks fans on HB are classless. You guys would trade another cup if it meant you could end Backes career. I can't even recall the last time Backes was suspended and I'd love to see a replay of a dirty hit from a Blues player in this series.
- charlest

I remembered those discussions. It was pretty civil most of the time. Kings fans have had nothing to talk about pre 2012. After last year where we had to play the Blues and SJ in brutal 7 game series, there was too many injuries to overcome to compete with the Hawks. I would have loved to see a series with the Hawks in which we were healthy but that's the breaks. Who ever comes out of the west is going to be bruised and battered.

Nothing good about this game. This is street thug hockey. Blues style. Hitch's legacy and a perfect fit for a meth-head fan base.

The officiating has been one sided and they are losing control.

Backes deserved every inch of that hit. He has been running smaller players his whole career. Just wish it had been in the pre or regular season.
- tredbrta

Your pathetic. To wish injury to a player or saying that he deserved it. The funny thing is hitch already said that the blues will get even come Monday, rather it is against a top guy like teows or kane or if its seabrook if he is playing. But we will get even is what hitch said. I thought that was wrong of him to say but after hearing your non sense I hope he puts teows in the 4th row so I can watch him cry. It's going to be great watching a hawk pick himself up off the ice with the help of a trainer......... DONT BE A D

nice assumptions here. i feel sorry for you actually. your life seems to revolve round the blackhawks. if the hawks are doing well=you are doing well and the same for the opposite. the hawks are down 2-0 cheer up, live your life.

and the other hawk bandwagoner said he wouldnt get suspended, do you work in the league office too?
- Jurco_28

Thank you! I mean seriously look at what you hawk fans write or believe in it is pathetic.

Lucky lucky lucky! St. Louis not as good as advertised.... Getting completely outplayed by Chicago! Backus deserved to get knocked for a loop!
- MnGump

BAHAHA a wild fan talking poop go figure. Blues not as good as advertised? first off your wild have beaten the blues once going back to previous seasons lol. The blues have out shot, out hit, and have had more socring chances every game over the hawks.Not to mention they are 2 - 0. So the hawks have won the faceoff's can you please explain how they are outplaying the blues and use facts to back it up please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCiYri04Oo#t=45
Just wanted to add this in the discussion. If you listen to the closely, you can hear Keith saying wakey wakey Backes. never mind just saw some one else post it. sorry
- Stlbluesfan7777

Players don't respect each other, we've seen it time and time again. If you look at this video and think this is the only time and only team to do this, you are clearly mistaken. It just so happened to be caught on tape.

Seabrook suspended for 3 games.

Seabrook suspended for 3 games.
- jhawk159

I thought he should get four. I figured he would get two.

Seabrook suspended for 3 games.
- jhawk159

Seems fair for the playoffs . Depends on how long Backes is out . Should not be allowed to return till player that was injured can return.

Seems fair for the playoffs . Depends on how long Backes is out . Should not be allowed to return till player that was injured can return.
- Maximum Signal

I feel the same way. A player should not be able to return until the player they injured is able to. Seems like the only way to try and control late/questionable hits to the head.

I thought he should get four. I figured he would get two.
- bcallaway

I wonder if it would have been more if it was a regular season game.

Seabs was laughing OBVIOUSLY because Backes can dish it but cannot take it. Backes, Lapierre, Ott, Reaves and Jackman..... dirty players with records to prove it.

Seabrooke has never been suspended. The hit, at worst, was the equivalent of the Orpik hit. He will probably get 1 game because of the whining fan base and mooing announcers. Bickell - also no suspensions. His hit was worse but nothing less dirty than the sleu foot Tarasenko pulled earlier in the season and what Ryan Reaves pulls every night.

Blues are now the dirtiest team in hockey. The garbage and crap behind the play and after the whistle is obviously the style that fat POS Hitch is coaching. The refs are letting too much go and losing control.

What did Hitch want before the game? "Chaos" was the quote. Well, he is getting it. Someone gets hurt - it is on him.

All of you inbred Blow hards posting garbage everywhere about "the evil Sebarooke" look like two faced morons. This is your style night in and night out.

Guess what? It will not win a cup. Eventually the whistle will start blowing and you will go the way of the Canucks.
- tredbrta

Backes has never been suspended. I also don't think Jackman nor Reaves have, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Backes isn't a saint, but he's doesn't he's not running around with high hits and his stick isn't even nearly as bad as what Keith has done this series already.

I feel the same way. A player should not be able to return until the player they injured is able to. Seems like the only way to try and control late/questionable hits to the head.
- HawksHype

That would work as far as I am concerned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCiYri04Oo#t=45
Just wanted to add this in the discussion. If you listen to the closely, you can hear Keith saying wakey wakey Backes. never mind just saw some one else post it. sorry
- Stlbluesfan7777

This right here is where the Blackhawks reach the level of being the team with the least class in the entire NHL. It's arguable whether there was intent to injure or not on the play. But having a massive smile on your face after injuring a player while your partner taunts the injured player who is barely able to stand is just gutter level.

Blackhawks better hope Blues don't sink to their level, because it wouldn't be that hard to take a stick to the back of Toews head.

I thought he should get four. I figured he would get two.
- bcallaway

My opinion would be for him to sit the rest of the first round, regardless if it goes 4 or 7.

If you really want this to stop, you take extreme action. Something the NHL wont do, because they are a bunch of effing idiots in that front office.

Seems fair for the playoffs . Depends on how long Backes is out . Should not be allowed to return till player that was injured can return.
- Maximum Signal

That would work until a star player injured a marginal player, lets say Seabrook injured Porter instead. The Blues would have a lot to gain by continually saying Porter still has a concussion to keep Seabrook out.

Also the NHLPA would never go for this because of the lost salary. Imagine what Thornton would have lost after concussing Perron a few years back.