stammerman
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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Nope . But like I said in a do or die situation it could be interesting to follow - RileyB77
Riley he wont be ready. |
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RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Canada Joined: 03.10.2013
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Riley he wont be ready. - stammerman
I agree but it could possibly be a story to follow , that's all |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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Why so negative? The team hasn't been playing well. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
If a player has a headache after being hit in the head and is somehow cleared to play, maybe the concussion protocol is still broken. Do you think he's allowed back out there if this is a meaningless regular season game? - Michael_Stuart
Fair enough of your opinions and them being negative, I never said you have to sugar coat anything, I am down on my team as well and posted my opinion of the problems but to openly call out the training staff who does their job is a bit much, if the player passes the protocols and wants to play they will let him play. If it was a regular season game maybe Stammer sits himself out but he would have the option.
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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So your friend called you in Tampa after the game in Montreal and gave you the scoop as to what happened? - MTL1
We have talked before plenty of times on injury protocols they follow so I don't see why this would be any different. They have a concussion protocol that they go thru, he passed and the option was his if he wanted to play. Simple as that.
Do I agree with Stammers decision to re-enter the game, now that's another can of worms there. Hard for me to say either way. |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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Fair enough of your opinions and them being negative, I never said you have to sugar coat anything, I am down on my team as well and posted my opinion of the problems but to openly call out the training staff who does their job is a bit much, if the player passes the protocols and wants to play they will let him play. If it was a regular season game maybe Stammer sits himself out but he would have the option. - stammerman
The player was hit in the head. The player openly admitted that he had a headache. I'm not going to make apologies for the people who thought it was a good idea to put him back out there. Again, do you think he goes back in if it wasn't a playoff game? |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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We have talked before plenty of times on injury protocols they follow so I don't see why this would be any different. They have a concussion protocol that they go thru, he passed and the option was his if he wanted to play. Simple as that.
Do I agree with Stammers decision to re-enter the game, now that's another can of worms there. Hard for me to say either way. - stammerman
It's the playoffs. They needed a win. He's their best player.
I understand why they put him out there. But based on what we know, I don't agree with that decision. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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The player was hit in the head. The player openly admitted that he had a headache. I'm not going to make apologies for the people who thought it was a good idea to put him back out there. Again, do you think he goes back in if it wasn't a playoff game? - Michael_Stuart
I will agree to disagree with you here... the staff did their job and followed all procedures they have set for this situation, they would not risk his health for the game and to insinuate that is my problem with what your saying. Stamkos himself chose to continue to play after he was cleared of a concussion by tests. I don't see where the staff has justification to say no to the player when he passed the tests. If he failed the tests he wouldn't get the option to play, that's what I am saying. |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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I will agree to disagree with you here... the staff did their job and followed all procedures they have set for this situation, they would not risk his health for the game and to insinuate that is my problem with what your saying. Stamkos himself chose to continue to play after he was cleared of a concussion by tests. I don't see where the staff has justification to say no to the player when he passed the tests. If he failed the tests he wouldn't get the option to play, that's what I am saying. - stammerman
"Bob McKenzie on #TSN690: "In a perfect world, Steven Stamkos should not have gone back into the game last night.""
"It was not clear whether Stamkos went through a concussion protocol off the ice. It was not clear whether he met with a doctor. Lightning coach Jon Cooper suggested Stamkos received medical clearance before he returned for the third period, but he was vague."
http://sports.nationalpos...ead-sets-off-alarm-bells/
No player is ever going to say "no, I don't want to play." The point is that by putting him back out there after he admitted to having a headache, you are absolutely jeopardizing the player's health. I'm not insinuating that. It's a reality.
You and I don't know what procedures were or were not followed. What we do know is that he went back out there with a headache. I don't agree with that decision. |
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tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: FL Joined: 05.22.2008
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Remember 1942, 1975, 2011 time for another. I'm back but could care less if they ban me again. Be back when all the Montreal fans leave after the series. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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The Lightning would not put Stamkos back out there without clearing him before doing so and that includes a concussion test since he was hit in the head. He received medical attention and clearance. They would not let him on the ice if failed medical clearance. Michael I have never denied the fact I know someone on the Lightning training staff and I have talked to him many times about procedural things, health of the player always comes first they didn't just take his word for it. He passed, he wanted to play. Do I agree with him playing like I said in a earlier comment not really I don't but I don't blame him for wanting to play or the staff for not stopping him once he passed protocols. It is up to Stamkos at that point.
Im done with this argument. I will await the next thing to talk about in this blog. It sure was a lively one Michael...
"Bob McKenzie on #TSN690: "In a perfect world, Steven Stamkos should not have gone back into the game last night.""
"It was not clear whether Stamkos went through a concussion protocol off the ice. It was not clear whether he met with a doctor. Lightning coach Jon Cooper suggested Stamkos received medical clearance before he returned for the third period, but he was vague."
http://sports.nationalpos...ead-sets-off-alarm-bells/
No player is ever going to say "no, I don't want to play." The point is that by putting him back out there after he admitted to having a headache, you are absolutely jeopardizing the player's health. I'm not insinuating that. It's a reality.
You and I don't know what procedures were or were not followed. What we do know is that he went back out there with a headache. I don't agree with that decision. - Michael_Stuart |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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The Lightning would not put Stamkos back out there without clearing him before doing so and that includes a concussion test since he was hit in the head. He received medical attention and clearance. They would not let him on the ice if failed medical clearance. Michael I have never denied the fact I know someone on the Lightning training staff and I have talked to him many times about procedural things, health of the player always comes first they didn't just take his word for it. He passed, he wanted to play. Do I agree with him playing like I said in a earlier comment not really I don't but I don't blame him for wanting to play or the staff for not stopping him once he passed protocols. It is up to Stamkos at that point.
Im done with this argument. I will await the next thing to talk about in this blog. It sure was a lively one Michael... - stammerman
I'll end my side of this debate with the same question. If this was a meaningless regular season game, does Stamkos go back out there after admitting he has a headache? We all know the answer.
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MTL1
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Brampton, ON Joined: 06.30.2006
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We have talked before plenty of times on injury protocols they follow so I don't see why this would be any different. They have a concussion protocol that they go thru, he passed and the option was his if he wanted to play. Simple as that.
Do I agree with Stammers decision to re-enter the game, now that's another can of worms there. Hard for me to say either way. - stammerman
So the answer is "No" to my question about this 1 particular incident from last night |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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So the answer is "No" to my question about this 1 particular incident from last night - MTL1
So it would seem. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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So the answer is "No" to my question about this 1 particular incident from last night - MTL1
It was implied in my answer, no need to spell it out. When he has time I will ask him about it... he is a professional and so am I, I don't think it appropriate to bother him while he works and he does the same for me. Next time we are hanging out I am sure I will hear all kinds of stories about these playoffs. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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So it would seem. - Michael_Stuart
Correct see answer above, no need to bother him over this. |
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todd1a
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Location: Valrico, FL Joined: 01.12.2012
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Stamkos should have stayed out! Just like bishop should not have started vs the maple leafs! What good was home ice for us? |
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RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Canada Joined: 03.10.2013
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Stamkos should have stayed out! Just like bishop should not have started vs the maple leafs! What good was home ice for us? - todd1a
As jon cooper would say "We can monday morning QB all we want"
The only thing that matters is we show up tomorrow with who we have and play our game or we will be watching golf videos on tampa bays website instead of pre-games and post-games. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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As jon cooper would say "We can monday morning QB all we want"
The only thing that matters is we show up tomorrow with who we have and play our game or we will be watching golf videos on tampa bays website instead of pre-games and post-games. - RileyB77
I hope they go out there have fun, play hard and see what happens. |
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RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Canada Joined: 03.10.2013
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I hope they go out there have fun, play hard and see what happens. - stammerman
Exactly. There's no point in playing if you're not having fun..It's their professionalism, but it's also still a sport. Fun has to be up there with winning and playing as a team and all the other good stuff. LETS GO BOLTS |
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todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Valrico, FL Joined: 01.12.2012
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start Kristers Gudlevskis why not ? lets see if it sparks us! |
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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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start Kristers Gudlevskis why not ? lets see if it sparks us! - todd1a
Doubt it. But who knows. |
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