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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
before yesterday's game i was thinking about the 04 run, and the first thing that came to mind was primeau's dominance and how the flyers could really use a performance like that from someone...anyone. it was glorious to watch.
- hammarby31

Problem with that is we dont have a big, fast, physical player like Primeau or Lindros on this team. We have Giroux's skill but when he has the puck there is nobody open other than the point and he doesnt have the size to drive the net. They need everyone involved to make a difference. Not just GIROUX. Not one player in this league does everything all by his damn self.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
The only thing I'd really like to see the Flyers do with their forwards next year is try to move VL for a pick and replace Hall with a better 4th liner. I'd be very happy going into next year with a forward group of:
Hartnell-G-Voracek
Raffl-Schenn-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Read
Akeson or McGinn or Rosehill-UFA TBD-Rinaldo

and on D, if you can get VL off the cap, sign Niskanen or Stralman and go with:

Coburn
Niskanen or Stralman
MacDonald
Schenn
Streit
Grossmann
Gus or Lauridsen as the 7th.

I'd much rather go with this lineup than move a bunch of youth and picks for a dman.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Malholtra.
- Tomahawk

Laughton
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
nice trade
- watsonnostaw


poop happens, every GM has bad trades and good trades. Lets not forget than Downie played very well before he first got hurt and his line with Couturier and Read helped turned this thing around.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
No neck... whoever that is, maybe Trotz.
- mayorofangrytown


good lord, that's exactly who he means.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Berube is getting out coached pretty badly this series. I refuse to believe that the Rangers are more talented. They have a couple defenders and a goaltender that is better than what we have. Thats it. Also doesnt help when its Emery vs. Lundqvist...... Thats the difference between winning and losing. These games arent shootouts. Its tight checking and defensive. Good goaltending is a must.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Malholtra.
- Tomahawk


If they can land Malhotra for 700-800k, sure, that would work for me. He is basically a faster, slightly more skilled version of Hall, and just as good on faceoffs as well.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Oh boy, if YOU don't get what he means, what chance is there for the rest of us??

- BiggE


moat figured it out. i just wasn't thinking.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
poop happens, every GM has bad trades and good trades. Lets not forget than Downie played very well before he first got hurt and his line with Couturier and Read helped turned this thing around.
- BiggE


Without that line getting hot, there's really no telling how long the slump would have lasted. That line was definitely a catalyst for the turnaround. Them and Raffl helping the top line.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
poop happens, every GM has bad trades and good trades. Lets not forget than Downie played very well before he first got hurt and his line with Couturier and Read helped turned this thing around.
- BiggE

downie was concussed his first game as a flyer, when they got destroyed by the capitals 7-0
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
If they can land Malhotra for 700-800k, sure, that would work for me. He is basically a faster, slightly more skilled version of Hall, and just as good on faceoffs as well.
- BiggE


Plus, he does stuff like this:
http://gocheckers.com/art...-brendan-woods-again.html
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
Berube is getting out coached pretty badly this series. I refuse to believe that the Rangers are more talented. They have a couple defenders and a goaltender that is better than what we have. Thats it.
- GOA88


I don't think the Rags are more talented overall, though I do think they have a clear advantage on D. I do however think they are more committed to sticking to their game plan and that they, more than the Flyers, have every guy going hard every shift. They are a more experienced and mature team than the Flyers.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
moat figured it out. i just wasn't thinking.
- hammarby31

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
The only thing I'd really like to see the Flyers do with their forwards next year is try to move VL for a pick and replace Hall with a better 4th liner. I'd be very happy going into next year with a forward group of:
Hartnell-G-Voracek
Raffl-Schenn-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Read
Akeson or McGinn or Rosehill-UFA TBD-Rinaldo

and on D, if you can get VL off the cap, sign Niskanen or Stralman and go with:

Coburn
Niskanen or Stralman
MacDonald
Schenn
Streit
Grossmann
Gus or Lauridsen as the 7th.

I'd much rather go with this lineup than move a bunch of youth and picks for a dman.

- BiggE


I wouldn't be afraid to flip Laughton for a young, scoring left winger to play with Schenn, but other than that, I'd swallow hard and go with something like you just described

I mean, seriously. WTF. Yeah, on bad days, it's easy to flip guys, but they're a 94-point team now with Schenn and Couturier being inconsistent and hovering around the 40-point mark, at their ages.

Doesn't take orange-colored glasses to see what might be on the horizon with a little patience
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
Problem with that is we dont have a big, fast, physical player like Primeau or Lindros on this team. We have Giroux's skill but when he has the puck there is nobody open other than the point and he doesnt have the size to drive the net. They need everyone involved to make a difference. Not just GIROUX. Not one player in this league does everything all by his damn self.
- GOA88


they sure don't. and of course they need the rest to chip in. otherwise, they're finished.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
downie was concussed his first game as a flyer, when they got destroyed by the capitals 7-0
- watsonnostaw


Ok, so I guess it was an imposter wearing his uniform that played so well with Couturier and Read for a month?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Plus, he does,stuff like this:
http://gocheckers.com/art...-brendan-woods-again.html

- Tomahawk


Yup, he has always been a class act.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
I'm disappointed with B Schenn, but unsure about dealing him. If he gets dealt, he will immediately become the player we wanted. That alone makes me want to hold onto him for a bit longer.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Ok, so I guess it was an imposter wearing his uniform that played so well with Couturier and Read for a month?
- BiggE

It was me, I admit it
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Apr 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
I don't think the Rags are more talented overall, though I do think they have a clear advantage on D. I do however think they are more committed to sticking to their game plan and that they, more than the Flyers, have every guy going hard every shift. They are a more experienced and mature team than the Flyers.
- BiggE

We will see what happens when Mason comes back. He has the ability to raise his game to a high level. That will open up this team a little more IMO. We will make adjustments and the desperation will no doubt be there. Its a 7 game series for a reason. If we dont see the desperation needed. They dont deserve to win anyway...
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
moat figured it out. i just wasn't thinking.
- hammarby31


you figure it out...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
It was me, I admit it
- BulliesPhan87



Well then lace em up, the boys need ya!!
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
Ok, so I guess it was an imposter wearing his uniform that played so well with Couturier and Read for a month?
- BiggE

no, you are just mistaken about the injury history of your beloved Steve Downie
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Thats it for me fellow miscreants, there is a very sad eyed dog here that is begging for food and a walk. Later!
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
We will see what happens when Mason comes back. He has the ability to raise his game to a high level. That will open up this team a little more IMO. We will make adjustments and the desperation will no doubt be there. Its a 7 game series for a reason. If we dont see the desperation needed. They dont deserve to win anyway...
- GOA88

first hurdle is for mason to win a playoff game in the NHL, which he has never accomplished
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