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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
I haven't been on here, but what I gather is that Laughton has "joined the team."

What does this mean exactly? Has he "joined the team" like the other Black Aces, or is he in the lineup? If it's the latter, do we have any solid information to go on?

- jmatchett383


I don't think the Flyers have said anything past "joined the team".

I think many of us have put him in Friday night's lineup already just based on that. He could be skating with the Black Aces for all anyone knows.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
I haven't been on here, but what I gather is that Laughton has "joined the team."

What does this mean exactly? Has he "joined the team" like the other Black Aces, or is he in the lineup? If it's the latter, do we have any solid information to go on?

- jmatchett383

We know he can play 10 games before burning a year off of his ELC. We know he definitely isn't playing tomorrow. We suspect he'll get into game 5
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
We know he can play 10 games before burning a year off of his ELC. We know he definitely isn't playing tomorrow. We suspect he'll get into game 5
- JAKEw1234


I believe it's 9. Once he plays the 10th, it counts I believe.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Ugh, you're right.
- johndewar


It happens from time to time. Also, hope that wasn't taken as smugly as it was written.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Ugh, you're right.
- johndewar


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
We know he can play 10 games before burning a year off of his ELC. We know he definitely isn't playing tomorrow. We suspect he'll get into game 5
- JAKEw1234


we know he's not playing tomorrow? source?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
we know he's not playing tomorrow? source?
- hammarby31

I read somewhere that he won't play in Game 4
- tangent_man

Ha okay so we don't have verified info that he won't play tomorrow, but seeing as he probably won't even get in one practice before the game tomorrow, I doubt he'll play over someone who's already on the same page as the rest of the team.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
we know he's not playing tomorrow? source?
- hammarby31


Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 40m

#Flyers re-called Scott Laughton today from OHL Oshawa (has NHL experience) but Berube says he will not play in Game 4.


Not the most credible, but...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
What I understand is what the stats can do, and what they can't do. They can show general trends, but the can't isolate those trends to one player on the ice in a team game. It's impossible to do. Many of the Corsi disciples, fail to understand that.
- MJL

Actually, most do understand that, which is why they use more than one stat. They look at a wide array of them, and look at what a player's teammates do with & with him on the ice, to gain a more complete picture.

In other words, if one player has terrible metrics, it's a part of the picture. But if he has bad metrics, and every other guy has worse metrics with him on the ice than without, it's a pretty telling trend. Either that guy is the unluckiest bastard alive or he's not playing an especially good possession game.

And yes, possession is not the end all be all. Nobody says it is, & they limit a blog post to CF or Fenwick, it's for brevity's sake, not that they only looked at those particular numbers, to avoid readers eyes glazing over.

It's not to open a can of worms, but you seem to misunderstand how people use stats
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 40m

#Flyers re-called Scott Laughton today from OHL Oshawa (has NHL experience) but Berube says he will not play in Game 4.


Not the most credible, but...

- tangent_man

No, you're not very credible
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
It happens from time to time. Also, hope that wasn't taken as smugly as it was written.
- jmatchett383


Not at all, sir.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
No, you're not very credible
- Jsaquella


Damn, dude.


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
Non-stop flight is like 1.5 hours from Toronto.

(plus a few hours to drive from North Bay to GTA)

- Tomahawk


Actually I make the flight 4-5 times a year.....an hour and 15 minutes from gate to gate....4 hour drive from Northbay to TO which would of happened last night or early this morning....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
No, you're not very credible
- Jsaquella


What with your tangents and all...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 40m

#Flyers re-called Scott Laughton today from OHL Oshawa (has NHL experience) but Berube says he will not play in Game 4.


Not the most credible, but...

- tangent_man


Killjoy...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Actually I make the flight 4-5 times a year.....an hour and 15 minutes from gate to gate....4 hour drive from Northbay to TO which would of happened last night or early this morning....
- landros 2


Yes, it probably would have happened last night, I agree.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 40m

#Flyers re-called Scott Laughton today from OHL Oshawa (has NHL experience) but Berube says he will not play in Game 4.


Not the most credible, but...

- tangent_man


He may be a decent option in round 2 to get some playing time....or game 6 or 7 in this round...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
Killjoy...
- Tomahawk


Right...I prefer the HB mantra of wild speculation and unsubstantiated rumors. Facts and statements are not needed.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
He may be a decent option in round 2 to get some playing time....or game 6 or 7 in this round...
- landros 2

or game 5...
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
What with your tangents and all...
- jmatchett383

Killjoy...
- Tomahawk



Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
Right...I prefer the HB mantra of wild speculation and unsubstantiated rumors. Facts and statements are not needed.
- jmatchett383


So Disappointing... usually we get a dozen pages or so worth of froth whipped up before the facts take a big dump on our heads.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
Right...I prefer the HB mantra of wild speculation and unsubstantiated rumors. Facts and statements are not needed.
- jmatchett383


tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
So Disappointing... usually we get a dozen pages or so worth of froth whipped up before the facts take a big dump on our heads.
- Tomahawk


Hey, Chief can always change his mind.

Or Snider can change it for him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
So Disappointing... usually we get a dozen pages or so worth of froth whipped up before the facts take a big dump on our heads.
- Tomahawk


SHAYNE GOSTISBEHERE WILL NEVER SIGN HERE!!! HE'S GOING TO BECOME A UFA!!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
or game 5...
- JAKEw1234


Sure...who knows...
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