hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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That's great! We should send him a little Flyers jersey so they can raise him right. - mayorofangrytown
it's too late. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Would they really put him in a dump like the Holiday Inn Stadium? I'd think that would be a violation of the CBA. - bodiva88
Hey I like that spot...although I had my passport stolen twice from the spot....but I do love the location.....was hoping they would build a hotel at xfinity to give me an option. |
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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Would they really put him in a dump like the Holiday Inn Stadium? I'd think that would be a violation of the CBA. - bodiva88
i use that place for 2 things. the parking lot and the bathroom. there's no way he's staying there. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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You should already be on the way - ob18
I have to finish my day job first. That deep fryer isn't going to clean its self man.
Sorry, did I offend all the fast food workers who post here? Queue the crickets... |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Looking at more then one stat, cannot remove the flaws of the data of Corsi. It's impossible. As much as they try and isolate the data to one player, it cannot be done. It's all about the data. Garbage in, garbage out. And I've illustrated repeatedly, over a long period of time, that I understand perfectly how the stats are misused, and are used in poor context. - MJL
Except you really haven't, because not all the stats used are Corsi based.
The instances where you have tried to apply stats yourself have been ham handed and wrong at best, and you ignore that stats advocates readily admit that they show trends and are not the end all be all, and are just a tool to get a better and clearer picture of a player's performance.
The trouble is, it seems, rather than try to understand how you might be wrong about stats, you trash the manner in which they are collected and used because they don't support your opinion.
I'll take Corsi & Fenwick over an opinion that one can't validate with anything other than his own absolute certainty that he can't be wrong. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Somebody said he's at the Holiday Inn I think. I may have misread it though. - mayorofangrytown
The hookers and blow were already there waiting for him. So that's nice. |
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Except you really haven't, because not all the stats used are Corsi based.
The instances where you have tried to apply stats yourself have been ham handed and wrong at best, and you ignore that stats advocates readily admit that they show trends and are not the end all be all, and are just a tool to get a better and clearer picture of a player's performance.
The trouble is, it seems, rather than try to understand how you might be wrong about stats, you trash the manner in which they are collected and used because they don't support your opinion.
I'll take Corsi & Fenwick over an opinion that one can't validate with anything other than his own absolute certainty that he can't be wrong. - Jsaquella
Are ham hands as delicious as they sound? |
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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The hookers and blow were already there waiting for him. So that's nice. - wolfhounds
Richie sent him a gift basket? How nice.
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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Richie sent him a gift basket? How nice. - tangent_man
Yeah, and Holiday Inn is code for Carter's Slut Shak at the Beach.
Welcome to Philly young man! |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Are ham hands as delicious as they sound? - wolfhounds
No. They are terrifying
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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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No. They are terrifying - Jsaquella
Another dream turns into a nightmare. |
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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Richie sent him a gift basket? How nice. - tangent_man
Lol. I think Richie may be on the wagon now with the way he's played in the playoffs so far. Jebus. |
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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Yeah, and Holiday Inn is code for Carter's Slut Shak at the Beach.
Welcome to Philly young man! - wolfhounds
No wonder Carter disappeared when he heard he was traded. Had to get all those goodbyes out of the way.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Except you really haven't, because not all the stats used are Corsi based.
The instances where you have tried to apply stats yourself have been ham handed and wrong at best, and you ignore that stats advocates readily admit that they show trends and are not the end all be all, and are just a tool to get a better and clearer picture of a player's performance.
The trouble is, it seems, rather than try to understand how you might be wrong about stats, you trash the manner in which they are collected and used because they don't support your opinion.
I'll take Corsi & Fenwick over an opinion that one can't validate with anything other than his own absolute certainty that he can't be wrong. - Jsaquella
I've looked at them all extensively. I've looked at and read all that stats that pundits such as yourself have used. So to say that I haven't is simply false. And again, to say that I haven't validated my opinion with anything other then my own absolute certainty that I'm right, is also false. Because over the coarse of all the discussions of Corsi, and it's misuse in rating players and their performance, I've also provided numerous articles with opinions that support my stance on the misuse of a lot of analytics. And I'd be glad to do so again.
And to conclude, the conversation is going away from the statistics themselves, to being about the poster. Not interested in that. I'll be glad to continue to discuss the stats, and how I think they're flawed. And we'll see what I can validate. And you're free to point out how I'm wrong, and I welcome that. But not interested in any personal remarks such as made above. |
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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Lol. I think Richie may be on the wagon now with the way he's played in the playoffs so far. Jebus. - Hextall271
Someone musta turned him onto pot. Lethargy and all.
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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No wonder Carter disappeared when he heard he was traded. Had to get all those goodbyes out of the way. - tangent_man
Whole new set of neighbors to visit, to let them know about the list...
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I've looked at them all extensively. I've looked at and read all that stats that pundits such as yourself have used. So to say that I haven't is simply false. And again, to say that I haven't validated my opinion with anything other then my own absolute certainty that I'm right, is also false. Because over the coarse of all the discussions of Corsi, and it's misuse in rating players and their performance, I've also provided numerous articles with opinions that support my stance on the misuse of a lot of analytics. And I'd be glad to do so again.
And to conclude, the conversation is going away from the statistics themselves, to being about the poster. Not interested in that. I'll be glad to continue to discuss the stats, and how I think they're flawed. And we'll see what I can validate. And you're free to point out how I'm wrong, and I welcome that. But not interested in any personal remarks such as made above. - MJL
Oh goody, more promises to provide articles supporting your opinion...I won't hold my breath |
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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jsaq finds value in corsi/fenwick et al
mjl doesn't
got it. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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jsaq finds value in corsi/fenwick et al
mjl doesn't
got it. - hammarby31
Yeah, sorry about that. Didn't mean to drag anything out. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Oh goody, more promises to provide articles supporting your opinion...I won't hold my breath - Jsaquella
Like I said, the opportunity is there to prove that my opinion can't be validated with anything other than my own absolute certainty that I can't be wrong. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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jsaq finds value in corsi/fenwick et al
mjl doesn't
got it. - hammarby31
I find some value in them. But I find that they are badly misused out of context by many.
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hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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Yeah, sorry about that. Didn't mean to drag anything out. - Jsaquella
it's cool. i'm actually just laughing at you guys. |
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=116892&dbm=1
- tangent_man
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