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hauger14
New York Rangers
Location: Fairfield, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2009

Apr 27 @ 11:57 AM ET
Have you seen the series? Flyers haven't played with much of anything.

Rangers interfere on a shift by shift basis. It's pretty brutal the officiating the Flyers have received thus far. By far the worst of all the series.

- Flyersgod



Ha, keep crying. Calls have been pretty good in this series. How about Mason punching at players with no call? It's been a good series, stop trying to bring outside factors into it. It's a 2-2 series with both teams playing well. If anything the Flyers need to step it up. Mason and Emery have each stole the games the Flyers won. Penalties are the least of their worries. They need more team help for their goalies. Rangers outplayed them but hot goalies happen in the Playoffs. stop making excuses for a series that is far from over
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
They should call every penalty in the first 10 minutes-- Once the guys know there is a No Tolerance Rule for B$ they will get down to the business of a great hockey game.

Furthermore if it's a penalty in the first 10 minutes... It's a penalty in OT.

The refs say they don't want to change the outcome, but by their very inaction-- They are.

Players push limits and cross the line on purpose. They put it on the refs to do their job-- and the Refs turtle.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
After every game and series no teams fans are happy with the officiating, you can't satisify the masses, too many opinions on what should be called and what shouldn't be called.

If the refs are doing their job and are consistent with their message to the players on the ice and the coaches of what they are going to call and not call, then they are doing their job, and yet they will still miss calls, its human nature.

Any one of us with a PVR at home jumping up saying look he did this, look he did that, what a joke doesn't matter in the end.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 27 @ 12:12 PM ET
If a ref changes his calls during a game it shows he has no integrity.
hauger14
New York Rangers
Location: Fairfield, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
After every game and series no teams fans are happy with the officiating, you can't satisify the masses, too many opinions on what should be called and what shouldn't be called.

If the refs are doing their job and are consistent with their message to the players on the ice and the coaches of what they are going to call and not call, then they are doing their job, and yet they will still miss calls, its human nature.

Any one of us with a PVR at home jumping up saying look he did this, look he did that, what a joke doesn't matter in the end.

- DDM-Coga


One side will always be mad. They make the call the other team wonders why since it seems they never do. They let it go the team being penalized against wonders why they didnt get a PP. in all reality, it is not the refs fault but ours for our perception on them. we want calls to go our way and nothing else, when it doesnt you get mad. this will never change unless they somehow eliminate on ice officials. or if you have guys go through some kind of training so they dont get rattled in high pressure situations. possible ex-military men who have the skating ability and hockey knowledge? ha i know it sounds ridiculous, but makes sense
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
Calls should be different in the playoffs, but should not change mid-game
Pelle31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Johnstown, PA
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
ANY penalty during a scoring chance should be called no matter what time of the game....
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
One side will always be mad. They make the call the other team wonders why since it seems they never do. They let it go the team being penalized against wonders why they didnt get a PP. in all reality, it is not the refs fault but ours for our perception on them. we want calls to go our way and nothing else, when it doesnt you get mad. this will never change unless they somehow eliminate on ice officials. or if you have guys go through some kind of training so they dont get rattled in high pressure situations. possible ex-military men who have the skating ability and hockey knowledge? ha i know it sounds ridiculous, but makes sense
- hauger14


I think if they take powers away from refs, it will slow down the game if there is some sort of 100% system that every little tug and hack gets called, it will be non stop stoppages of play and the intensity will be gone on the ice, guys will just be skating by with one hand on their stick trying to check the puck now.

Even coaching challenges isn't a great idea.....so a play should have offside, 3 minutes of play go by and it results in a goal. So what the coach can challenge it being offside, take the goal away, and you add 3 minutes back on the clock? Thats just asking for more injures as players will be beat down even more having to log more minutes over a season.
ViolentEd1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
Calls should be different in the playoffs, but should not change mid-game
- FinAddict


Why should they be different?

Do they play a different game in the playoffs as opposed to the regular season?

A PENALTY is a PENALTY no matter if it's a pre-season game or game 7 of the up finals. Changing for the playoffs ruins any credibility the NHL has built up for itself and tells fans that they don't care.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Apr 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
a penalty is a penalty, doesn't matter what period it's in or how much time is left on the clock.
- Symba007


Not in the Chicago/St Louis series....St Louis is getting away with all kinds of old school clutch and grab poop.
hauger14
New York Rangers
Location: Fairfield, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think if they take powers away from refs, it will slow down the game if there is some sort of 100% system that every little tug and hack gets called, it will be non stop stoppages of play and the intensity will be gone on the ice, guys will just be skating by with one hand on their stick trying to check the puck now.

Even coaching challenges isn't a great idea.....so a play should have offside, 3 minutes of play go by and it results in a goal. So what the coach can challenge it being offside, take the goal away, and you add 3 minutes back on the clock? Thats just asking for more injures as players will be beat down even more having to log more minutes over a season.

- DDM-Coga


agreed. there just isn't really a way to get it to everyones liking. a call will always anger half the fans and please the other half
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
Why should they be different?

Do they play a different game in the playoffs as opposed to the regular season?

A PENALTY is a PENALTY no matter if it's a pre-season game or game 7 of the up finals. Changing for the playoffs ruins any credibility the NHL has built up for itself and tells fans that they don't care.

- ViolentEd1

Yes
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
agreed. there just isn't really a way to get it to everyones liking. a call will always anger half the fans and please the other half
- hauger14


its all our fault, we care too much about hockey
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Why should they be different?

Do they play a different game in the playoffs as opposed to the regular season?

A PENALTY is a PENALTY no matter if it's a pre-season game or game 7 of the up finals. Changing for the playoffs ruins any credibility the NHL has built up for itself and tells fans that they don't care.

- ViolentEd1

It has been a VERY long time since I have seen my team play in the playoffs, but yes, yes they do play a different game in the playoffs. You rarely see the intensity of a playoff game in a regular season game, and those style of games are played night in, night out in the playoffs. They also keep separate stats from regular season to playoffs, and no shootout and overtime rules are different, so yes they do play a different game.
TheRollingPuck
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "All things considered (defense) I'd put a prime Kunitz on par with one way kessel."
Joined: 04.10.2010

Apr 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
They should just call things by the book - the regular season book - in the first place.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
there is letting up a big and then there is last nights avs-wild game


the non-call on the open net play is an absolute joke, when the play prevents a sure goal you have to call it
hauger14
New York Rangers
Location: Fairfield, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2009

Apr 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
its all our fault, we care too much about hockey
- DDM-Coga


haha right!! dam, sucks the nhl has die hard fans who know the rules and more to the game then just "1st down" and "touchdown"
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
The zebras are a complete joke.
How is that not a goal for the Rangers?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
The zebras are a complete joke.
How is that not a goal for the Rangers?

- StargateSG1

I agree with you Tilk
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
16 playoff teams - Who has had the most powerplays/least power plays-

1. Pens (No surprise here) 25pps
2. Dal 24
3. Stl 23
4. CBJ 22
5. SJS 22
6. ANA 22
7. NYR 20
8. DET 20
9. CHI 18
10. COL 18
11. LAK 17
12. BOS 16
13. MIN 15
14. MTL 13
15. PHI 11
16. TBL 7

- Flyersgod


Montreal didn't have much power plays, but still almost doubled Tampa Bay.. No surprise here

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
The zebras are a complete joke.
How is that not a goal for the Rangers?

- StargateSG1


VERY quick whistle. That's a goal
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
16 playoff teams - Who has had the most powerplays/least power plays-

1. Pens (No surprise here) 25pps
2. Dal 24
3. Stl 23
4. CBJ 22
5. SJS 22
6. ANA 22
7. NYR 20
8. DET 20
9. CHI 18
10. COL 18
11. LAK 17
12. BOS 16
13. MIN 15
14. MTL 13
15. PHI 11
16. TBL 7

- Flyersgod


It's not the # of penalties that show much, it's the teams that are +9, +10 , +11 ect.. In power play chances for.
Like Montreal & New York
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
Montreal didn't have much power plays, but still almost doubled Tampa Bay.. No surprise here


- Erik6Karlsson5

Considering how much they dominated puck possession, it really is no surprise.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
Unreal how much attention gets paid to the refs. All this does is feed a culture of excuses. It's pathetic.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
It's not the # of penalties that show much, it's the teams that are +9, +10 , +11 ect.. In power play chances for.
Like Montreal & New York

- Erik6Karlsson5


Montreal was +6. And I love how you point to the Penguins sarcastically. Aside from game 4 they have carried the play at 5 on 5. When you dominate at 5 on 5 you draw more penalties and take less. You can make it into some kind of conspiracy if you want but ask yourself what's more logical: league conspiracy or some teams outplaying others.
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