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FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

May 1 @ 9:17 AM ET
the Flyers' first-year head coach left himself open to second-guessing.
- bmeltzer

I like Berube a lot, and I'm impressed in a lot of ways with him ... but the distribution of ice time is not one of them.

Too many times this season (especially in the playoffs) we've been left wondering why some of our better players are getting tons of less ice time than they should be getting.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 1 @ 9:18 AM ET
I'll own up. Streit had a really good series and I hated the signing. I think he and Grossmann should be split up, they don't work that well together all the time and everyone knows I Grossmann. That said, Streit really did surprise me this series and if he can keep that momentum I'll be perfectly happy with this signing.
- FlyersGrace


Agree 100%
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 1 @ 9:18 AM ET
they can always buy him out...whats his cap hit?
- PhillaBully


SEASON SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT
2014-15 $3,000,000 $1,500,000
2015-16 $1,500,000 $3,000,000
2016-17 $1,500,000 $3,000,000
2017-18 $2,000,000 $2,500,000
2018-19 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2019-20 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2020-21 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2021-22 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

May 1 @ 9:19 AM ET
Better be hearing back surgery for Lecavalier or else we are (frank)ed for the long run...yet again, with that contract.

Holmgren went 1 for 2 over the summer as I thought Streit was our most consistent Dman throughout the year. Thought he had a very very good series.

- Just5


I was very disappointed with VL, thought he would be better. My kid went out and bought his jersey when they signed him, now he is asking himself why he did that.

Streit was good and I would like to see him on PP top unit.
Schenn and AMac solid pair
Just praying for that #1 Dman now that we have a legit # 1 goalie
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 1 @ 9:19 AM ET
I like Berube a lot, and I'm impressed in a lot of ways with him ... but the distribution of ice time is not one of them.

Too many times this season (especially in the playoffs) we've been left wondering why some of our better players are getting tons of less ice time than they should be getting.

- FlyerGuy


Hopefully that improves with experience.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 1 @ 9:20 AM ET
cap hit is 4.5. Your right they can and Tomahawk broke it down the other day. I believe its something like 3.5 mil of dead money on the cap in 15-16 and 16-17 if they bought him out this summer.

They will probably have to do it. I mean if that guy wasnt injured, you have to do it

- Just5

I posted in the other blog my thoughts on Vinny. My honest opinion is that he was still hurt. I think we are going to find that he plays really well to start the season and then begins to fade. As long as he's ok being moved down lines or occaisonally sat then I think he stays. He does have a really good one time shot and he has some speed when he chooses to use it.
Could you imagine buying him out right after the lightning did? He must either be cursed or blessed, hahaha... If we did and he went to another team he'd be bringing in 3 salaries
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 1 @ 9:22 AM ET
cap hit is 4.5. Your right they can and Tomahawk broke it down the other day. I believe its something like 3.5 mil of dead money on the cap in 15-16 and 16-17 if they bought him out this summer.

They will probably have to do it. I mean if that guy wasnt injured, you have to do it

- Just5


They really do if that's the case. It killed me that they used the money they got from the Briere buyout to get him. It was a backwards move. Could of really used that little guy this series. Vinny was god awful.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 1 @ 9:23 AM ET
SEASON SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT
2014-15 $3,000,000 $1,500,000
2015-16 $1,500,000 $3,000,000
2016-17 $1,500,000 $3,000,000
2017-18 $2,000,000 $2,500,000
2018-19 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2019-20 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2020-21 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000
2021-22 -$1,000,000 $1,000,000

- FlyersSteve118


Better off trying to move him to a team desperate for help at center and offer to eat 30% of the contract. The other team then gets him for 4 years at a hit of 3.15 and the Flyers only have to carry 1.35 for 4 years.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 1 @ 9:23 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Flyers Lost Series at Even Strength
- bmeltzer


Hey Bill, we don't always agree on things about this team or the NHL in general, but thank you again for your service to this online Flyers community again this season.

Nobody does it better on this website.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 1 @ 9:24 AM ET
Better off trying to move him to a team desperate for help at center and offer to eat 30% of the contract. The other team then gets him for 4 years at a hit of 3.15 and the Flyers only have to carry 1.35 for 4 years.
- BiggE

Pretty sure he has a NTC which means our trading partners would be limited.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
Better off trying to move him to a team desperate for help at center and offer to eat 30% of the contract. The other team then gets him for 4 years at a hit of 3.15 and the Flyers only have to carry 1.35 for 4 years.
- BiggE


If Gomez can get moved for the return he netted, anything can happen. At this point I'd take a bag of turds.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
So when can I say that I blame the series loss on the Penguins because of Mason's injury?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 1 @ 9:28 AM ET
anyone think Schenn, Schenn, Hartnell, + for bogosian and trouba is possible?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 1 @ 9:29 AM ET
Better off trying to move him to a team desperate for help at center and offer to eat 30% of the contract. The other team then gets him for 4 years at a hit of 3.15 and the Flyers only have to carry 1.35 for 4 years.
- BiggE


Maple Leafs Maple Leafs
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

May 1 @ 9:29 AM ET
If Gomez can get moved for the return he netted, anything can happen. At this point I'd take a bag of turds.
- JFlyers00


The Leafs may take him. He could battle Tyler Bozek for the top Centre!

Or

Maybe just him a shot to come in healthy next year to see what he can bring to the team
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 1 @ 9:29 AM ET
Pretty sure he has a NTC which means our trading partners would be limited.
- FlyersGrace


I'm pretty sure that he wants off this rock if he is stuck playing on the fourth line. And paying a guy that can't crack the top 6 $4.5mil is just asinine. I highly doubt he will be here next year and if he is, the flyers will not be able to make a deep run in the playoffs next year either.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

May 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
So when can I say that I blame the series loss on the Penguins because of Mason's injury?

- FlyersGrace

I forgot about that.


Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

May 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
anyone think Schenn, Schenn, Hartnell, + for bogosian and trouba is possible?
- PhillaBully

Highly, highly unlikely. I wouldn't even do it from a Flyers standpoint. I'd want way more than under-achieving Bogosian... Throw in Kane or Little instead.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 1 @ 9:31 AM ET
Wonderful job as always Bill, you have done excellent work all season and we are all lucky to have you here!!

I see the Flyers having 2 major needs to fill this offseason:
1. Get a skilled, mobile dman to pair with Coburn on the top unit
2. Get a legit top line LW to play with G and Jake

- BiggE


FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 1 @ 9:31 AM ET
anyone think Schenn, Schenn, Hartnell, + for bogosian and trouba is possible?
- PhillaBully


No way in hell Hartnell waives his NTC to go the poopty Jets.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
Maybe just him a shot to come in healthy next year to see what he can bring to the team
- 3flyerkids


He should of been in the press box then.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
I'm pretty sure that he wants off this rock if he is stuck playing on the fourth line. And paying a guy that can't crack the top 6 $4.5mil is just asinine. I highly doubt he will be here next year and if he is, the flyers will not be able to make a deep run in the playoffs next year either.
- FlyersSteve118

Hard to say if he wants off or not...
He did pick us to play for.
And don't forget he really was our best forward at the beginning of the season.
The Flyers aren't scared to bench someone making that much money (i.e. Mezsaros).
Don't get me wrong I won't be sad to see him go but at the same time I won't be upset if he stays either.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

May 1 @ 9:33 AM ET
Always enjoy reading your Blogs in the morning, Bill. Another long summer awaits.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 1 @ 9:33 AM ET
anyone think Schenn, Schenn, Hartnell, + for bogosian and trouba is possible?
- PhillaBully


Not even in the ballpark
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
anyone think Schenn, Schenn, Hartnell, + for bogosian and trouba is possible?
- PhillaBully


not even the slightest chance.
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