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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 2 @ 1:59 PM ET
http://espn.go.com/boston...classless-views-pk-subban
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:01 PM ET
My memory has been spotty before, but from all my readings of the Flyers, my understanding is that only one instance required permission from above the GM to fire the coach: When they gave the shiv to Bill Barber, during the (reported) infamous player revolt.

Other than that, as far as I've been able to tell, the Flyers GMs have led the way in the hiring, and definitely made the call on the firings

- AllInForFlyers


Hmmmm..makes sense, since the GM is in charge of the roster, and should therefore be able to pick the best coach for the roster (or vice versa).
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Hmmmm..makes sense, since the GM is in charge of the roster, and should therefore be able to pick the best coach for the roster (or vice versa).
- jmatchett383



Depends on the management structure and/or ownership group... pretty sure Linden had to go upstairs to fire Torts.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
http://espn.go.com/boston...classless-views-pk-subban
- PhillySportsGuy


Sterling interested in buying Bruins?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
Sterling interested in buying Bruins?
- jmatchett383


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
I don't know who Stanley is, and I don't really have much interest in his cups.
- PhillySportsGuy

spoken like a leaf fan
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
spoken like a Shark fan
- 2Real


FTFY
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
spoken like a leaf fan
- 2Real


waaaaaaahh I hate everything
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 2 @ 2:08 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy



Some pretty sick poop:

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
Just to reiterate, last night's Vikings season finale was one of my favorite television episodes of forever.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Depends on the management structure and/or ownership group... pretty sure Linden had to go upstairs to fire Torts.
- Tomahawk


If what we're reading is true, he did, because they owe him $8 million with no offset, reportedly
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
timo 6m coby 4.5
schenn 3.6 mez 4
gross 3.5 streit 5

cheapest pair was 7.6 coming into this season. that is freaking insane. Do you get my point? OUR D COSTS WAY TOO MUCH.

- FlyersSteve118


Meszaros is gone, Kimmo is probably gone, Grossmann will hopefully be gone, and we have four young and cheap defensive prospects to look forward to.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
Some pretty sick poop:


- Tomahawk


That's pretty messed up. I mean, Family Guy? Really?
Hey Lois, remember the time when I made a nonsequential reference to a past humorous episode?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
Some pretty sick poop:


- Tomahawk


I know most of them probably did it as a sick joke, but Its just really (frank)ed up.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
That's pretty messed up. I mean, Family Guy? Really?
Hey Lois, remember the time when I made a nonsequential reference to a past humorous episode?

- jmatchett383

why is that rope watching family guy
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

May 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
why is that rope watching family guy
- 2Real


Because no one else will.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
Because no one else will.
- ThirdEye

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
Because no one else will.
- ThirdEye


+5 infinities.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 2 @ 2:21 PM ET
Meszaros is gone, Kimmo is probably gone, Grossmann will hopefully be gone, and we have four young and cheap defensive prospects to look forward to.
- Feanor


Followed promptly by people getting impatient with their learning curve and strong likelihood that their development involved some "backward steps" along the way.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
Tiffany Amber Thiessen or Melissa Joan Hart?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
A look at scoring chances in the series:

http://www.broadstreethoc...chances-round-1-in-review
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Meszaros is gone, Kimmo is probably gone, Grossmann will hopefully be gone, and we have four young and cheap defensive prospects to look forward to.
- Feanor


This year is going to be

High Price UFA (Niskanen, Boyle, Markov, Timonen) 6M Coburn 4.5
Mac 5 Schenn 3.6
Streit 5 Grossmann 3.5

Unless we get rid of Schenn or Grossmann, going to pay close to 9 mil a pair. Even if we do get rid of one of them we still invest WAY TOO MUCH cap space into our defense, due completely to our lack of developing young defensemen.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
Followed promptly by people getting impatient with their learning curve and strong likelihood that their development involved some "backward steps" along the way.
- bmeltzer


Yep.

Offseason mantra: "We have a lot of good prospects, let's be patient and build a solid defense."

Preseason mantra: "Morin/Ghost/Hagg look great, he/they should be in our lineup now instead of these overpaid bums!"
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
This year is going to be

High Price UFA (Niskanen, Boyle, Markov, Timonen) 6M Coburn 4.5
Mac 5 Schenn 3.6
Streit 5 Grossmann 3.5

Unless we get rid of Schenn or Grossmann, going to pay close to 9 mil a pair. Even if we do get rid of one of them we still invest WAY TOO MUCH cap space into our defense, due completely to our lack of developing young defensemen.

- FlyersSteve118


I think Niskanen will cost more than $6M. I still want him though. If they sign Niskanen, they would need to trade a defenseman. Likely Grossmann or Schenn.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
This year is going to be

High Price UFA (Niskanen, Boyle, Markov, Timonen) 6M Coburn 4.5
Mac 5 Schenn 3.6
Streit 5 Grossmann 3.5

Unless we get rid of Schenn or Grossmann, going to pay close to 9 mil a pair. Even if we do get rid of one of them we still invest WAY TOO MUCH cap space into our defense, due completely to our lack of developing young defensemen.

- FlyersSteve118


And the organization has shown a clear focus on attempting to correct it. Nothing to do about it at the moment.

FWIW, I think one of Alt/Lauridsen will have a good shot at making the lineup this year. So you could have:

Coburn 4.5 Streit 5
Mac 5 Schenn 3.6
Streit 5 Alt/Lauridsen ~$650K

Brings it down to about $7.9M per pair. Not great, but a step.
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