VL was already deteriorating before signing with the Flyers. I don't see him being much better next season. Serious back injuries at his age don't just heal perfectly .
- PhillySportsGuy

He's a lot closer in situation to Simon Gagne than Brad Richards, that's for sure.

Again, I do not disagree with what you just wrote. I wanted Lecavalier to fit here, to work. And I do still think he can play a role in the NHL.

The problem is that we do not have the wingers on the NHL roster to play with him. I think Voracek probably could. Maybe. Because of how he drives possession and carries the puck.

Could the Flyers acquire those kinds of wingers? Maybe. Probably. But at some point, cap space, roster slots and need start to factor in, and catering to a mid-30s player...might not be what you want to do.
- AllInForFlyers

Exactly. It's better for the team to get rid of him rather than cater to him. Trade Schenn then sign wingers who will drive possession, play well defensively and add speed? That seems like a lot for a guy who is supposed to be a #2C.

He's a lot closer in situation to Simon Gagne than Brad Richards, that's for sure.
- Tomahawk

Flyers somehow trade Vinny for a pick, then sign a bought out Brad Richards for five years, $22.5 million. Richards plays pretty well for two months then gets a severe back injury.

Flyers somehow trade Vinny for a pick, then sign a bought out Brad Richards for five years, $22.5 million. Richards plays pretty well for two months then gets a severe back injury.
- Feanor

He was too good to pass up.

He was too good to pass up.
- PhillySportsGuy

Nik Khabibulin and Dan Boyle, too. Then MSL in summer 2015-16.

Then we'll take a time machine back 10 years and win the Stanley Cup for sure.

No matter how similar players are, you can't assume one will have the same development cycle.

I think it's easier to fit a player like Krug on the Bruins because they're a really good two-way team. They don't leave their defenseman hanging out to dry. The Flyers are not a good defensive team. A guy like Ghost may have his flaws exploited quite a bit.
- PhillySportsGuy

The Flyers have been a much better two way team under Berube. If they make the right moves this summer they can be even better. Im not sold on Berube but I think a young defenseman like Ghost will have a much better opportunity to swim under Berube than Lava. I think its safe to say the skills are quite similar b/w Krug and Ghost. And by every account I've read Ghost has a good head on his shoulders and is a diligent hard worker. He needs to gain some weight, but nobody in the organization is counting on him becoming a crease clearer or wall stapler. What did Holmer say "Dont want to load down your ferrari" Theyre not concerned with his weight.

So what do people think about

Cammalleri
M. Michalek
Ray Whitney
J. Jokinen
D Winnick
R. Vrbabta
B. Pouliot
Kulemin
Setoguchi
Gaborik
Iginla
Gionta
Hemsky
Alfredsson

Nik Khabibulin and Dan Boyle, too. Then MSL in summer 2015-16.

Then we'll take a time machine back 10 years and win the Stanley Cup for sure.
- Tomahawk

That would be the best acquisition they could make.

The Flyers have been a much better two way team under Berube. If they make the right moves this summer they can be even better. Im not sold on Berube but I think a young defenseman like Ghost will have a much better opportunity to swim under Berube than Lava. I think its safe to say the skills are quite similar b/w Krug and Ghost. And by every account I've read Ghost has a good head on his shoulders and is a diligent hard worker. He needs to gain some weight, but nobody in the organization is counting on him becoming a crease clearer or wall stapler. What did Holmer say "Dont want to load down your ferrari" Theyre not concerned with his weight.
- Just5

You want to ruin him like Sbisa?

To draft Ekbald yes. We always talk about having too many centers. We move one center and Couturier moves to 2nd line center and Laughton moves to 3rd line shutdown center. Raffl has proven to be good on both ends and can also play on that 3rd line replacing read. I want a better fourth line so maybe Hall walks and we sign someone like Brian Boyle or Dominic Moore.


Can go with something liek this then
hartnell - g - Voracek
Simmonds- Couturier - Vinny?
Raffl - Laughton - Akeson(shown he can do it and has to get a chance now)
Rinaldo - Moore?/Hall - Boyle

Kimmo walks sois some combination of these 7

Coburn
Grossmann
Streit
AMAC
Ekbald
Ghost
Alt
- J35Bacher

And they coast into the season with like 15mil in cap space?

So what do people think about

Cammalleri
M. Michalek
Ray Whitney
J. Jokinen
D Winnick
R. Vrbabta
B. Pouliot
Kulemin
Setoguchi
Gaborik
Iginla
Gionta
Hemsky
Alfredsson
- PhillySportsGuy

Michalek, Iginla or Vrbata I like

So fellas, I don't know if you remember, but long story short, there's a really sweet professor here that everyone loves and she's leaving because the school won't give her a full time position, much to her dismay. Me and my friend started an online petition and got like 200 people to sign it to keep her here. The "process" is now up to the presidential level- the last rung on the ladder! So she might be staying after all!

We went and drank with her after her final yesterday. Literally an hour after the exam. Yes, I can say I drank with my molec professor. If she's back next year, our class is gonna take her to old city
- Giroux_Is_God

If you guys are looking for something to do in the area, I might be able to offer a few suggestions. I know that area fairly well.

In the season of 17-18 it will be gone.

Edit: 3 more seasons.
- FlyersSteve118

Likely just one in reality. The last 2 years of the deal prongers actually salary is only $550k and insurance would be paying 70% of it. At that point his cap hit of 4.925 million becomes very attractive to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor.

So what do people think about

Cammalleri
M. Michalek
Ray Whitney
J. Jokinen
D Winnick
R. Vrbabta
B. Pouliot
Kulemin
Setoguchi
Gaborik
Iginla
Gionta
Hemsky
Alfredsson
- PhillySportsGuy

Michalek, Whitney, Winnik, Setoguchi, Gaborik, Iginla, Gionta, Alfredsson: No

Cammalleri interests me, but will be pricey

Jokinen could be a fit. Vrbata's only played the right side, so I'm not sure where he'd go.

I'd absolutely have interest in Pouliot and Kulemin for the third line, if they wanted to come

Hemsky is the same as Vrbata; while he's played on the left side before, it wasn't a good fit.

The thing about Hemsky is this: He's the type of player who could probably play with Lecavalier

The Flyers have been a much better two way team under Berube. If they make the right moves this summer they can be even better. Im not sold on Berube but I think a young defenseman like Ghost will have a much better opportunity to swim under Berube than Lava. I think its safe to say the skills are quite similar b/w Krug and Ghost. And by every account I've read Ghost has a good head on his shoulders and is a diligent hard worker. He needs to gain some weight, but nobody in the organization is counting on him becoming a crease clearer or wall stapler. What did Holmer say "Dont want to load down your ferrari" Theyre not concerned with his weight.
- Just5

As a smaller defenseman, he needs to learn how to avoid taking big hits. The AHL will give him the opportunity to make a gradual transition.

If he goes to the NHL and hasn't learned this yet, he could get injured and delay his growth even more.

Didn't Laughton injure Ghost just last year with a big hit at practice?

So what do people think about

Cammalleri
M. Michalek
Ray Whitney
J. Jokinen
D Winnick
R. Vrbabta
B. Pouliot
Kulemin
Setoguchi
Gaborik
Iginla
Gionta
Hemsky
Alfredsson
- PhillySportsGuy

Kulemin and Pouliot are the names that jump out to me... in the right price range and they could play anywhere in the top-9.

Setoguchi might be worth a reclamation if they plan on moving one of their current RW'ers.

Vrbata, Gaborik and Michalek are too expensive. The rest are too old.

I think that either L. Schenn or Grossmann is going to have to go in the off season in order to make room for some signings. The flyers are going to want to get a top line forward and the top defender they need. I think Lecavalier and Grossmann go in the off season and I don't think Timonen resigns. He looked worn down in the playoffs.
- FlyersSteve118

Who will take Vinni with his money and the way he showed up in playoffs? Flyers cannot get rid of him - it is Holmgren mistake....

Likely just one in reality. The last 2 years of the deal prongers actually salary is only $550k and insurance would be paying 70% of it. At that point his cap hit of 4.925 million becomes very attractive to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor.
- BiggE

That is a very good point. How many teams still struggle to reach the cap floor?

Michalek, Whitney, Winnik, Setoguchi, Gaborik, Iginla, Gionta, Alfredsson: No

Cammalleri interests me, but will be pricey

Jokinen could be a fit. Vrbata's only played the right side, so I'm not sure where he'd go.

I'd absolutely have interest in Pouliot and Kulemin for the third line, if they wanted to come

Hemsky is the same as Vrbata; while he's played on the left side before, it wasn't a good fit.

The thing about Hemsky is this: He's the type of player who could probably play with Lecavalier
- AllInForFlyers

In the words of Brian Burke "I think the other team will be happy to see those two on the ice"

Who will take Vinni with his money and the way he showed up in playoffs? Flyers cannot get rid of him - it is Holmgren mistake....
- SGTrader

I really don't think that trading a former #1 pick for practically nothing is going to be all that difficult, even with his cap hit.

Likely just one in reality. The last 2 years of the deal prongers actually salary is only $550k and insurance would be paying 70% of it. At that point his cap hit of 4.925 million becomes very attractive to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor.
- BiggE

The LTIR/cap hit isn't the only problem, though. What about all the ripple effects of the deal and the subsequent moves they had to make to replace him? Not to even consider the players/picks that Anaheim got in the deal, how they'll fare.

Kulemin and Pouliot are the names that jump out to me... in the right price range and they could play anywhere in the top-9.

Setoguchi might be worth a reclamation if they plan on moving one of their current RW'ers.

Vrbata, Gaborik and Michalek are too expensive. The rest are too old.
- Tomahawk

I really like those two also. They would be great fits with Couts and Read. They can provide a little offense too.

In the words of Brian Burke "I think the other team will be happy to see those two on the ice"
- PhillySportsGuy

Anytime you could bust on a guy with a Brian Burke quote...Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

Likely just one in reality. The last 2 years of the deal prongers actually salary is only $550k and insurance would be paying 70% of it. At that point his cap hit of 4.925 million becomes very attractive to a team that struggles to reach the cap floor.
- BiggE

The thing is, will the NHL allow such a deal that is an obvious cap circumvention to happen?

Personally I doubt it. But stranger things have happened.

Here it is ladies and germs. The first one of the offseason!
- Giroux_Is_God

Let the madness commence!!

TO Nashville: both Schenns, Couturiers beard, Holmgrens bike, Clarke's false teeth, 8 first rounders and Sniders jet

TO Philly: Weber, Travis Tritt's favorite guitar and the ghost of Christmas past!