The one position that would be comparable. But if a team already has a franchise goaltender, they aren't likely to trade up to take another goalie.
- MJL

Yeah, in these cases they traded up because it was a position of need and because they believed that the player was the best player available. Can't go wrong in that scenario.

I know a lot of people would hate this idea but what about The Schenn bros for PK Subban. Then figure something else out for the forward vacancies.

I think that we can all agree that the D problem is the biggest issue.

I know a lot of people would hate this idea but what about The Schenn bros for PK Subban. Then figure something else out for the forward vacancies.

I think that we can all agree that the D problem is the biggest issue.
- dmleip

That's not nearly enough for subban

Think he could slip down to #17?
- FlyersSteve118

A chance anything can happen.

That's not nearly enough for subban
- Just5

Throw in a 3rd then.

Throw in a 3rd then.
- feelingkettle

That'll do. It's settled. The schenns and a 3rd for reigning Norris winner pk subban

Couple things from what people have posted...

If Brayden Schenn was signed to an offer sheet, it would be after the 2014 draft so if the team was to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd it would be in the 2015 draft. I do not want to move Schenn but if they can't agree on a contract and a team offers him a ridiculous contract, I would like getting the draft picks.

I don't think it would be a good idea to trade Read for Gormley. I don't think its a good idea to extend contracts to players only to trade them a year or two later. I would like to see Read get more top-2 line minutes and since I can't see them move VL, I'd like to see Simmonds-VL-Read and see how Akeson-Couturier-Raffl does on the 3rd line. However, I would be very interested in obtaining Gormley, just not sure about moving Read to get him.

Lastly, if the Flyers are to keep BSchenn, I would be curious to see how he would do if you moved Giroux to RW and maybe have Read-Schenn-Giroux and have Giroux take the draws like they did with Hall. Then maybe see what Simmonds-VL-Voracek would be like. Just a thought

That's harsh.
- tangent_man

you misspelled hilarious

Couple things from what people have posted...

If Brayden Schenn was signed to an offer sheet, it would be after the 2014 draft so if the team was to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd it would be in the 2015 draft. I do not want to move Schenn but if they can't agree on a contract and a team offers him a ridiculous contract, I would like getting the draft picks.

I don't think it would be a good idea to trade Read for Gormley. I don't think its a good idea to extend contracts to players only to trade them a year or two later. I would like to see Read get more top-2 line minutes and since I can't see them move VL, I'd like to see Simmonds-VL-Read and see how Akeson-Couturier-Raffl does on the 3rd line. However, I would be very interested in obtaining Gormley, just not sure about moving Read to get him.

Lastly, if the Flyers are to keep BSchenn, I would be curious to see how he would do if you moved Giroux to RW and maybe have Read-Schenn-Giroux and have Giroux take the draws like they did with Hall. Then maybe see what Simmonds-VL-Voracek would be like. Just a thought
- sulshawn

I think Read is fine with Couturier. I would like the 2nd and 4th line to become more reliable. Berube relies so heavily on the third line for defense. It would be nice if he could roll the lines a little more often and give Couturier's line some decent match ups once in a while.

Couple things from what people have posted...

If Brayden Schenn was signed to an offer sheet, it would be after the 2014 draft so if the team was to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd it would be in the 2015 draft. I do not want to move Schenn but if they can't agree on a contract and a team offers him a ridiculous contract, I would like getting the draft picks.

I don't think it would be a good idea to trade Read for Gormley. I don't think its a good idea to extend contracts to players only to trade them a year or two later. I would like to see Read get more top-2 line minutes and since I can't see them move VL, I'd like to see Simmonds-VL-Read and see how Akeson-Couturier-Raffl does on the 3rd line. However, I would be very interested in obtaining Gormley, just not sure about moving Read to get him.

Lastly, if the Flyers are to keep BSchenn, I would be curious to see how he would do if you moved Giroux to RW and maybe have Read-Schenn-Giroux and have Giroux take the draws like they did with Hall. Then maybe see what Simmonds-VL-Voracek would be like. Just a thought
- sulshawn

The only thing about Simmonds and Jake on that second line is that they both play on the right side. I don't think it would work too well.

Also I don't like the idea of having G on the wing. You want to build your team around your first line center.

The only thing about Simmonds and Jake on that second line is that they both play on the right side. I don't think it would work too well.

Also I don't like the idea of having G on the wing. You want to build your team around your first line center.
- FlyersSteve118

Agreed. Giroux is the team's first line center, and that should not be messed with under any circumstances.

The only thing about Simmonds and Jake on that second line is that they both play on the right side. I don't think it would work too well.

Also I don't like the idea of having G on the wing. You want to build your team around your first line center.
- FlyersSteve118

Thanks I don't want to mess Giroux either. Just trying to be creative. I was thinking maybe Read would give one of the top 2 lines more scoring while moving Raffl into Read's 3L role with Couturier

B Schenn for a late 1st, 2nd and 3rd would be dumb. Not happening. Either he's signed to a hopefully reasonable contract or traded for much more than that.

B Schenn for a late 1st, 2nd and 3rd would be dumb. Not happening. Either he's signed to a hopefully reasonable contract or traded for much more than that.
- jstross

I don't think it would be dumb, should he get an offer sheet & the deal is more than they are good with, then that's the return.

I don't think it would be dumb, should he get an offer sheet & the deal is more than they are good with, then that's the return.
- ob18

If it gets close to the point that they don't feel they can resign him then trade him. They can easily get a higher 1st rd pick+ this year, IMO. They should be looking internally for possible deals now.

If it gets close to the point that they don't feel they can resign him then trade him. They can easily get a higher 1st rd pick+ this year, IMO. They should be looking internally for possible deals now.
- jstross

I'd be fine with an extra 1st in the draft next year than this one.........this isn't a "bad" draft but next year will be the one to have multiple 1st rounders.

That being said I'd explore any deal that can make this team better.

If it gets close to the point that they don't feel they can resign him then trade him. They can easily get a higher 1st rd pick+ this year, IMO. They should be looking internally for possible deals now.
- jstross

I agree with you. I'm not interested in getting another late round first round pick for Brayden Schenn and starting the development process all over again. If I'm trading Schenn, it's for an established NHL player, not draft picks.

I'd be fine with an extra 1st in the draft next year than this one.........this isn't a "bad" draft but next year will be the one to have multiple 1st rounders.

That being said I'd explore any deal that can make this team better.
- ob18

Just too many variables to figure out what's best at this point. Hopefully we retain B. Schenn.

I agree with you. I'm not interested in getting another late round first round pick for Brayden Schenn and starting the development process all over again. If I'm trading Schenn, it's for an established NHL player, not draft picks.
- MJL

Yeah no pick is worth an established 20 goal scorer with a very high upside to go with that (except the obvious top 3 picks of the draft). Why trade an established commodity for an unknown pick that realistically has very little chance to match the known quantity that Brayden Schenn is?

Yeah no pick is worth an established 20 goal scorer with a very high upside to go with that (except the obvious top 3 picks of the draft). Why trade an established commodity for an unknown pick that realistically has very little chance to match the known quantity that Brayden Schenn is?
- FlyersSteve118

A player chosen with that pick could potentially wind up a better player. But really my point is that if you keep trading established NHL players for draft picks and the future, the future will never come. That player could be 2-3 years away. Giroux isn't going to be a stud forever.

Just too many variables to figure out what's best at this point. Hopefully we retain B. Schenn.
- jstross

I wouldn't be upset either way, was just looking at it from the draft side as to when I'd rather have the pick unless it was top 10 this year.

No way the Canadiens are parting ways with Subban.
No way the Flyers can obtain Weber from Nashville.

No way the Canadiens are parting ways with Subban.
No way the Flyers can obtain Weber from Nashville.
- Pixote Andolini

no way we trade schenn for beans

Im more optimistic about schenn than last offeason. He needs to get stronger on the puck and better in face offs. VL big mistake and its hurting.

I know a lot of people would hate this idea but what about The Schenn bros for PK Subban. Then figure something else out for the forward vacancies.

I think that we can all agree that the D problem is the biggest issue.
- dmleip

Sure but as much as i like the schenns neither one is lighting the world on fire. Dont see why montreal goes for that.